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Reply #700 on: November 19, 2013, 08:37:35 PM

This is all more insulting than Eve ever was, or ever could be.
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Reply #701 on: November 19, 2013, 10:55:14 PM

Noooooooooo!

I just read how the PVP system works and I don't like it at all. Quoting someone else to explain it:

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If Pete the Pirate is hanging out on a trade lane location, that's an instance. If Joe the Merchant comes along and there are no other instances going, my read on the information available is that the game will check Joe's PvP slider and assign a percentage that he runs afoul of Pete that decreases in scale with the extent to which Joe would prefer to fight against the AI.

I'm saying that's a bunch of crap. Inside of UEE space, sure, let Joe fall into an instance chock full of Centurion Merchant Protecting Good Guys. Outside of it, his only protection from having his lunch eaten should be good planning, hired guns or hot engines.

"What a bunch of crap!" Indeed. Anyone want to take a Freelancer of my hands? It's brand new!   why so serious?


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Reply #702 on: November 19, 2013, 11:47:13 PM

This is a case study waiting to happen.

One that may be subtitled, "Why Chris Roberts Isn't On The Internet Any More".

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Reply #703 on: November 20, 2013, 12:13:48 AM

Then, for future reference of this case study, let me post that the third day of the sale has just begun. Caterpillar is today's protagonist:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13383-Drake-Caterpillar-Now-Available

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Today, we’re offering the Drake Interplanetary Caterpillar transport. The Caterpillar is a tough, pirate-oriented transport that should be great for shipping raids and other nefarious activities. Here’s the official description:

Drake maintains that the Caterpillar, a sprawling, modular spacecraft which appears at least somewhat like its namesake, is for legitimate commerce and extended search and rescue missions… but at the end of the day, the Caterpillar is truly the evil twin of the Freelancer.
Designed for supporting pirate operations, the Caterpillar features a large cargo hold for carrying loot, heavier armor than other freighters in its class and room for five crew able to serve in boarding operations. Despite its heavier armor, the Caterpillar isn’t a bulldog… a succesful operation will require a fighter escort.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/store/281-drake-interplanetary-caterpillar-lti

Description says it all about its possible use.

New backers - $245 [€196]
Original/veteran backers - $225 [€180]

Yep, price is high (certainly higher than a Freelancer, but again it's a combination between a dedicated transport and a ship); it currently doesn't have an hangar because it will only fit in one that is not released, yet: the asteroid hangar (maybe we'll get a first glimpse of its in-engine version during the livestream on the 26th).

Here's a concept art pic of the asteroid/pirate hangar:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/wlxtj4w9wzo55r/source/Pirate_hangar.jpg
                
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Reply #704 on: November 20, 2013, 12:40:39 AM

Because a picture is more ... etc etc

The Drake Catapillar *drumroll*





Edit: Lucas' link to the Catapilliar pledge is only available for original backers. Anyone else use this: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/store/281-drake-interplanetary-caterpillar-lti
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Reply #705 on: November 20, 2013, 12:51:02 AM

I'm not finding the version of it that has Alpha and Beta access.

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Reply #706 on: November 20, 2013, 12:54:01 AM

I'm not finding the version of it that has Alpha and Beta access.

There isn't one.

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Reply #707 on: November 20, 2013, 01:02:50 AM

This is all more insulting than Eve ever was, or ever could be.

You should start developing games this way bro.
We can start a campaign.
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Reply #708 on: November 20, 2013, 01:50:25 AM



IT'S NOT A GAME STOP READING ABOUT IT

FUCK
Dude, its a METAGAME!  
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Reply #709 on: November 20, 2013, 02:07:18 AM

This is all more insulting than Eve ever was, or ever could be.

He is  just bitter you didn't think of it first.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I'll soo laugh if F13 members together end up spending thousands of dollars for space pixels and next time there is a founding drive here asking for 5$ to keep the forum servers going everyone is "Uhh, sorry. I can't help, wasted all on spaceships!"

Edit: Even better, Schild checking his email, and instead of a paypal donation it's "Congratulations! Someone gifted you an Origin 350r!"   Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #710 on: November 20, 2013, 02:13:11 AM

Unless you, Lucas, Bloodworth, and Miasma somehow made up 95% of the last round of funding, I don't really think that will be a problem.

Edit: And having flipped back through this thread a bit, I feel like Chris Roberts must be paying Lucas for each link he posts here and Bloodworth for each screenshot.
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Reply #711 on: November 20, 2013, 02:16:25 AM

Unless you, Lucas, Bloodworth, and Miasma somehow made up 95% of the last round of funding, I don't really think that will be a problem.

True. But you must admit it would funny!

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Reply #712 on: November 20, 2013, 02:31:00 AM

Edit: Even better, Schild checking his email, and instead of a paypal donation it's "Congratulations! Someone gifted you an Origin 350r!"   Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I'll so do that, thanks for the input!  Heart

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Reply #713 on: November 20, 2013, 05:20:15 AM

This is all more insulting than Eve ever was, or ever could be.
I'll soo laugh if F13 members together end up spending thousands of dollars for space pixels and next time there is a founding drive here asking for 5$ to keep the forum servers going everyone is "Uhh, sorry. I can't help, wasted all on spaceships!"
That already happened, with HEX.

My new year's resolution is going to be to stop wasting so much money.  Just because I'm fortunate enough to have a good deal of diposable income doesn't mean I should literally dispose of it.

Edit: Removed a poorly written sentence comparing Star Citizen with HEX.
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Reply #714 on: November 20, 2013, 05:54:45 AM

What? Hex is not good? I would ask in the proper forum but for reasons too complicated for me to understand it has been closed. So, quick answer, is Hex actually disappointing?

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Reply #715 on: November 20, 2013, 06:19:47 AM

Woah woah woah, I never said that.  I mean in comparing two things that aren't finished yet that I've spent money on.  Very narrow field of study.  I can't even really talk about HEX, not just because of NDA but because I'm not bothering to play it until it goes from alpha to beta.

Edit: You know what I'm just going to edit that out because it is open to misinterpretation.  HEX is fine, I was just using it an example of something else a lot of us have paid for but isn't finished.
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Reply #716 on: November 20, 2013, 06:27:48 AM

Oh, NDA? Maybe that's why the forum has been closed. Thanks. /derail

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Reply #717 on: November 20, 2013, 07:13:08 AM

Hey, remember the MechWarrior NDA ?

Good Times.

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Reply #718 on: November 20, 2013, 07:20:55 AM

Unless you, Lucas, Bloodworth, and Miasma somehow made up 95% of the last round of funding, I don't really think that will be a problem.

Nope, Still have only spent the one pledge long ago. However, I think you are missing quite a few people in that list of yours.

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Reply #719 on: November 20, 2013, 07:35:09 AM

Oh, NDA? Maybe that's why the forum has been closed. Thanks. /derail
There's no NDA. schild made it private because metagame. Unfortunately there's no metagame right now cause the card set isn't complete awesome, for real
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Reply #720 on: November 20, 2013, 07:41:22 AM

I always figured it was made private so we wouldn't make fun of them.

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Reply #721 on: November 20, 2013, 07:56:28 AM


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Reply #722 on: November 20, 2013, 10:48:00 AM

100 developers? Even 30 million isn't going to last long with that.
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Reply #723 on: November 20, 2013, 11:29:11 AM

Maybe he's a student of the Curt Schilling school of Management?

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Reply #724 on: November 20, 2013, 12:17:50 PM

Noooooooooo!

I just read how the PVP system works and I don't like it at all. Quoting someone else to explain it:

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If Pete the Pirate is hanging out on a trade lane location, that's an instance. If Joe the Merchant comes along and there are no other instances going, my read on the information available is that the game will check Joe's PvP slider and assign a percentage that he runs afoul of Pete that decreases in scale with the extent to which Joe would prefer to fight against the AI.

I'm saying that's a bunch of crap. Inside of UEE space, sure, let Joe fall into an instance chock full of Centurion Merchant Protecting Good Guys. Outside of it, his only protection from having his lunch eaten should be good planning, hired guns or hot engines.

"What a bunch of crap!" Indeed. Anyone want to take a Freelancer of my hands? It's brand new!   why so serious?


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Whom ever you are quoting, missed some really important parts of the system.

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Outside of it, his only protection from having his lunch eaten should be good planning, hired guns or hot engines.

That's exactly how it is.
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Reply #725 on: November 20, 2013, 01:36:44 PM

Original/veteran backers - $225

Nice ship. But, uh... nope.

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Reply #726 on: November 20, 2013, 01:46:04 PM

Is it just me or is like 90% of posts in this thread about prices, package tiers, funding or something else regarding money?  Not a good sign IMO.
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Reply #727 on: November 20, 2013, 01:49:02 PM

Is it just me or is like 90% of posts in this thread about prices, package tiers, funding or something else regarding money?  Not a good sign IMO.

It's not you. It's like watching a Ponzi scheme in real time.

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Reply #728 on: November 20, 2013, 02:53:44 PM

Is it just me or is like 90% of posts in this thread about prices, package tiers, funding or something else regarding money?  Not a good sign IMO.

That's all there is to talk about. Discussions about what the game is need to wait until there's something people have actually played. And discussions about what the game could maybe someday possibly be lost interest over a dozen pages back.

There's a few really interested people here who like posting game updates in general, which is fed well by Roberts' et al releasing info in a nice predictable sequence. Soon schild will be able to sell ad space just in this thread for the SEO value being built  awesome, for real
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Reply #729 on: November 20, 2013, 03:06:15 PM

Honestly, I am really surprised Schild hasn't locked this thread yet.

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Reply #730 on: November 20, 2013, 03:16:19 PM

Is it just me or is like 90% of posts in this thread about prices, package tiers, funding or something else regarding money?  Not a good sign IMO.

That's all there is to talk about. Discussions about what the game is need to wait until there's something people have actually played. And discussions about what the game could maybe someday possibly be lost interest over a dozen pages back.

People use this excuse in threads a lot, always missing the obvious solution of just not talking if there's nothing to talk about.
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Reply #731 on: November 20, 2013, 03:27:51 PM

Well yes. But then the only threads with multiple pages across this entire site would be the "is this game dead" 21-pager in GW2 (which of course tells you how dead the game is...), the related it-sucks WAR threads, and probably some secret corp-mgt threads in the Eve forum  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

The size of this thread is a combination of what I said above and there being intense interest in someone taking space-sims serious. I read this thread a lot. I will not pay anything for virtual items I can't interact with, but understand why the level of hope for this game does drive others to. It's a sociological insight into an underserved market about a long dormant game type.
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Reply #732 on: November 20, 2013, 03:28:50 PM

Honestly, I am really surprised Schild hasn't locked this thread yet.

Hehe, me too  why so serious?

Look, no problem. If the majority of you guys find this thread a nuisance or whatever, why don't we just lock it 'til the release of the dogfighting module? Yeah, it still won't be the "proper" game, but there will be quite a lot more to talk about. Or, just move it temporarily (I hope, at least :P) to the Den. Btw, I'm writing this without any anymosity (again, I'm serious), really. It's just that the pattern repeats itself on a almost daily basis: someone post a news item, some other post "there is no game/pay for internet spaceship/etc. and it goes on and on.

Or, we'll just all agree to shut up and leave this thread to rot 'til the aforementioned module.

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Reply #733 on: November 20, 2013, 04:14:54 PM

I say keep it open, I always look forward to new posts in this thread, it's free entertainment.  why so serious?
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Reply #734 on: November 20, 2013, 05:27:52 PM

Honestly, I am really surprised Schild hasn't locked this thread yet.

Working off his Hex karma.

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