Random, Newbish Questions

[Sjofn]

Here is where I will ask all my questions that will make people wonder if I've ever even played a MMO before!  


First random, newbish question: Is there a way to preview what clothes look like before you actually buy them? I could not figure it out. But there's got to be one, right? I hope? Don't make me add another thing to Things I Don't Like, Funcom.

[brellium]

Select an item:



And click on the Preview all button

[Falconeer]

Yeah, and to cancel the preview either click on preview again, or just move your char. The magic disappears as you step in any direction, and you go back to your old dull self.

[Sjofn]

Christ, I didn't even see that button. Probably because when it is greyed out, it is impossible to read! Also, because I suck at games.

[Segoris]

It's teh same way for the cash shop btw, it preview on your actual character - not a separate preview window, so moving of the cash shop is needed. The previews (both of ingame and cash shop) end when you move your character

[Sjofn]

Next up: Is there an auction house and if so, where is it?

[Falconeer]

In with the next patch. Next Tuesday, they say.

[Tyrnan]

And as for where, it's the bank in London. Unless they've added them to New York and Seoul and I've missed it?

[Njal]

Next up: Is there an auction house and if so, where is it?

Mind you I can't see it being used for much. I have 1.5 million Pax and all I can spend it on is clothes.

[Sjofn]

People will sell crafting crap on it, surely! 



There's no way to respec, right? And don't tell me "oh you can buy everything eventually," because that does not help me now.

[brellium]

People will sell crafting crap on it, surely! 



There's no way to respec, right? And don't tell me "oh you can buy everything eventually," because that does not help me now.

You can buy everything eventually.

[Sjofn]

Bad news for my Illuminati lesbian, then, because I fucking hate her spec.

[Rasix]

Well, AP isn't exactly hard to come by.  I'm not sure how many you have spent now, but you'll spend the equivalent of an entire inner ring getting a single skill later and it won't even register.   Hell, for a longest time I just didn't even use outer ring skills.

Just start finding something you do like and go for it.  

[Rendakor]

How do we install Addons/Mods? I didn't even know they existed for TSW until a thread for them popped up here.

[Sky]

It's easy, I threw on that topbar thing just copying four files over.

[Sjofn]

Well, AP isn't exactly hard to come by.  I'm not sure how many you have spent now, but you'll spend the equivalent of an entire inner ring getting a single skill later and it won't even register.   Hell, for a longest time I just didn't even use outer ring skills.

Just start finding something you do like and go for it.  

I hate how she's specced way too much and I'm in too deep to bother, basically. She sucks, I suck, I do not want to farm AP to un-suck her. So goodbye, Conejita! Goodbye, Illuminati! Pelagia the Templar is a go. 

No respec is dumb.

[Rasix]

[Viin]

In the end, you want all the inner skills anyways. I switched from pistols to shotguns about half way through Kingsmouth, which was a little painful but with just a few AP it was easy to get started.

[Sjofn]

Yes, I get that eventually you can get anything your little heart desires. But when you're in the stupid newbie zone and dying a lot because the spec you picked to go for is terrible for the way you play (I am a meleer, preferably tankish at heart, it seems), having an option to respend your points would be really nice. It makes the newbie experience shitty and makes the stuff you already spent feel "wasted," as I imagine most people starting out are trying to have ONE functional deck before they start playing around with other shit.

Basically I imagine the game likes to be all LOOK HOW FLEXIBLE IT ISSSSSSS only it isn't flexible until you're faux-leveled-up quite a bit. And it's lame.

[Surlyboi]

Are you kidding? I stumbled all the way to Transylvania and I still don't have a full deck. Play it the way you want to play it and just spend the AP on something else. At your state in the game it's all easy anyway and you'll get the points you want in no time. And trust me, you'll probably want those other skills you bought later.

[Sjofn]

It's not easy, though! You guys are not grasping how shitty that character is and how much I've died as her. My other two characters have died about twice each thus far. Conejita has died roughly ten billion times. I am not blaming the game for this, I know it means I suck at that particular spec, but it is SO painful to play her, I don't want to farm the points I'd need to make her something less shitty. And it makes the lack of respec more glaring to me.

My other two characters basically hum along and I wouldn't think twice about it if I hadn't also seen the other side of it, being a spec I am completely shitty at.


I get that one day I will have points raining from the sky! I do! But I cannot do it on that character, she is that bad. Respec seems like a simple solution. Rerolling works too, though. 

[Sjofn]

Subject change: Ingmar alleges you can make a weapon decorative. Is this true, and if so, how do you do it?

[Rendakor]

There are toolkits you can buy from certain vendors that strip the appearance of a weapon, and let you combine it with a new weapon (destroying the original in the process).

[Sjofn]

Cool, thanks!

[caladein]

There's no way to respec, right?

No, best you can do is head back to the training room to try things out.  You can "respec" whatever points you spend while you're in there, but once you leave they're locked in.

It's easy, I threw on that topbar thing just copying four files over.

It gets a bit trickier once you're dealing with multiple addons that need to load from the same *Prefs.xml, but if looking at HTML code doesn't throw you into convulsions, it's just some simple copy-and-paste.

[trias_e]

Well, AP isn't exactly hard to come by.  I'm not sure how many you have spent now, but you'll spend the equivalent of an entire inner ring getting a single skill later and it won't even register.   Hell, for a longest time I just didn't even use outer ring skills.

Just start finding something you do like and go for it.  

I hate how she's specced way too much and I'm in too deep to bother, basically. She sucks, I suck, I do not want to farm AP to un-suck her. So goodbye, Conejita! Goodbye, Illuminati! Pelagia the Templar is a go. 

No respec is dumb.

Just want to note why making a new character isn't a good solution (unless you really want to change factions)

1)  You're going to be repeating the same quests anyways with your new character.
2)  XP gain from quests just keeps going up, so your AP gain rate will be higher on your current character than a new one.
3)  XP required to get AP never changes. 
4)  Those abilities you unlocked will almost certainly be useful for other builds and combinations later on.

[Miasma]

Like trias said, don't reroll, it makes no sense.  You should have some better gear on your current character and will be able to get ap faster on it than on any new character.  Any weapon and spec is good enough for Kingsmouth.  If you are dying a lot in Kingsmouth a new character won't help, you need to do the easier quests to get better gear and weapons and learn the builder/closer mechanic.

With a bit of luck any new character can get a QL3 weapon doing Danny's sabotage quest, just stand near where you get the airplane and wait for someone else to kill the golem beside it, then follow them and they will probably be killing the mauler next.  Only two enemies if you use the stuff you find under the airport.  Then in 18 hours you can do it again and get your second weapon.

[Seraphim]

Just want to note why making a new character isn't a good solution (unless you really want to change factions)

1)  You're going to be repeating the same quests anyways with your new character.
2)  XP gain from quests just keeps going up, so your AP gain rate will be higher on your current character than a new one.
3)  XP required to get AP never changes. 
4)  Those abilities you unlocked will almost certainly be useful for other builds and combinations later on.

Actually I'm with Sjofn on that one, while in Kingsmouth getting those AP to move into a seperate weapon set is too damn slow and painful when you can't kill jack and a single zombie tears you to shreds.
The first Leanan spread out her skills and AP over far too many weapon types without finding something that really clicked before getting tossed under the proverbial buss and remade into a Fist/Chaos specialist and certainly never regretted it...
Bottom line, a respec option early game would be quite helpful not to scare players off before they figure out how skills and abilities work together but since we're not getting it don't be afraid to just kill your character and remake it if you're struggling badly in Kingsmouth.
If you can manage to kill ql2-3 zombies and get to Savage Coast you'll soon find that the mission exp will see you swimming in SP/AP in no time however (or atleast that's how it felt to me at the time).

[Falconeer]

Yes, it has been explained and demonstrated multiple times why making a new character only makes sense if you want to change faction. Everything else is a waste of time, not efficient in the slightest XP wise, since a new character starts with ZERO ap and zero items, while if you just grab a ql0 weapon with your existant character he/she is exactly like a brand new character, still zero AP or SP in the new role you want to pursue, but with more money and gear (and maybe some stray unspent AP), so able to grow in the new class faster than a new char.

On the topic of respeccing, it's worth noting that while in other games you can respec pretty much freely, what Sjofn would like to do here is more something along the lines of changing class than respeccing. And that is not doable in any other game. So while old habits make us feel that in this game you can't respec while in other you can, reality is you can respec (change build AND class) in this game ANY TIME you want as long as you are not in combat, while in other MMORPGs to respec your build you have to see an NPC, and to "respec" to another class you have to log out.

So this game has free and instant respecs. You have to take off the WoW-coloured glasses to realize that though.

EDIT: Seraphim, what game offers you that? If you picked a class you don't like in any MMORPG, or that you are not good with, you can't respec to a completely different one. especially not in the first few levels where you can't respec AT ALL usually (not even talents). You have to roll another toon. Here, you have more options. Rolling another toon is the least efficient of them all. While adding a respec like the one you seem to want would be like adding to other games a function that allows you to change your class, say, when you are at level 7, or 13, and retain all your XP. No games has that yet, and no one seems to think it's weird.

Protip: Stonehenge, the PvP 5v5 map, gives out 83k XP (that's 2 AP) for a loss and 130K XP (3 AP) for a win. Even if you get in there and do absolutely nothing for 15 minutes you'll get a couple AP. Good if you really feel stuck and could use a bunch of free AP to get to that big improement of an ability, or to flesh out a completely new build/class.

[brellium]

Just want to note why making a new character isn't a good solution (unless you really want to change factions)

1)  You're going to be repeating the same quests anyways with your new character.
2)  XP gain from quests just keeps going up, so your AP gain rate will be higher on your current character than a new one.
3)  XP required to get AP never changes. 
4)  Those abilities you unlocked will almost certainly be useful for other builds and combinations later on.

Actually I'm with Sjofn on that one, while in Kingsmouth getting those AP to move into a seperate weapon set is too damn slow and painful when you can't kill jack and a single zombie tears you to shreds.
The first Leanan spread out her skills and AP over far too many weapon types without finding something that really clicked before getting tossed under the proverbial buss and remade into a Fist/Chaos specialist and certainly never regretted it...
Bottom line, a respec option early game would be quite helpful not to scare players off before they figure out how skills and abilities work together but since we're not getting it don't be afraid to just kill your character and remake it if you're struggling badly in Kingsmouth.
If you can manage to kill ql2-3 zombies and get to Savage Coast you'll soon find that the mission exp will see you swimming in SP/AP in no time however (or atleast that's how it felt to me at the time).

The only time I would recommend restarting to respec is if you find yourself not able to take down an individual mob or one pack of mobs.

The biggest question however is, are you using one weapon or two?

[Seraphim]

Actually that's good point for this thread, many seem to miss that you can use two seperate weapons even if one is just there to use it's Consumer for extra damage.
Also the fact that Passives can be taken from anywhere without even needing the weapon it's listed under.

I started out that first time with two weapons though, pistols/chaos, did't work and went on to fill most inner circles before calling it quits...
Looking back I'm not really sure how I managed to screw it up that badly but ah well.

[Sky]

To echo Falc, restarting really doesn't make sense. You'll have to re-run the Kingsmouth stuff anyway, so you may as well re-run it with a character who already has a few talismans and passives you can use with the new weapon line. You only gain what, 3AP in a new weapon by rerolling?

My first run through Kingsmouth, I tried to level two weapons equally (blade/AR) and was kind of meh with both, though I was still an effective character. With Bryn, I stuck almost completely with pistol, only branching out for 3 off-weapon passives...and still had enough AP to open the entire inner circle of Elem and a few skills on the outer of Pistol. As Seraph says, I'm just using Elem for Thor's Hammer to consume resources, otherwise I use almost nothing (just the 1AP passive for affliction on crits).

[palmer_eldritch]

I'd be surprised if there's any such thing as two weapons which, used in combination, can't kill zombies in Kingsmouth.

The tutorial will have given you a starter and a finisher for one weapon. Then you need to spend three AP to get the finisher for your second weapon. Then you are able to kill things.

One issue the game has is that the skill system seems kind of hard when you start out. You die a lot and don't know what you can do to fix it.

(Then it clicks but there's a danger you're thinking "oh, so I'm just meant to do five starters and two finishers over and over?" But then you move on to stage three and realise that there's a lot more to it than that)

[Lantyssa]

It was an Illuminati character.  No loss.

Though if you just need the AP to get started on a new weapon line, have someone help you with a couple of the later quests in Kingsmouth.  They're worth like 5 AP each.  If you must solo it, then just start with the Sheriff again.  You won't be any worse off.

[Falconeer]

So goodbye, Conejita! Goodbye, Illuminati! Pelagia the Templar is a go. 

Awesome. Give any of these peeps a /tell in game to join Bee Country. Everyone can invite. It's nice to have some chatting going on from time to time. Useful for tips and gear, too. And instances.