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Feverdream
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Reply #105 on: May 24, 2012, 11:01:04 PM

It's my understanding that 'set' items are legendary items that accrue a set bonus once you start wearing more than one of them.  I believe they aren't available until level 60, but I am not sure that's correct.

Some are available via crafting recipes that drop.

I've also heard some comments that the stats on them are pretty bland; this came from some folks who are generally frustrated with Blizzard's itemization in D3.  I'm sort of disappointed with that aspect myself, but am waiting to finish at least Nightmare, and maybe Hell level, before reaching a final conclusion.
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Reply #106 on: May 24, 2012, 11:10:36 PM

I don't even know what a "set" item looks like in this game. What color is it, what do sets look like?

I just got some set pants off a champion in Act I inferno, The text color was green. [Pants]

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Reply #107 on: May 25, 2012, 01:03:25 AM

They are Green. Search the AH for Legendary armor and you'll see them mixed in with the normal Brown Legendary items.
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Reply #108 on: May 25, 2012, 06:42:44 AM

Starting to hit a wall with my Barb where I feel like a melee char just can't progress.  Too many combinations of special monsters punish me for being in close at all and I HAVE to stack defense to be in close which really gimps what my dps could be.

So instead I just played the auction house game last night, started at about 300k, think I'm at about 4m right now.  cool

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Reply #109 on: May 25, 2012, 01:00:56 PM

Speaking of the AH, is it acting wonky for anyone else? Searching are returning a ton of Expired auctions and none posted recently at all; I'm unable to list things (Error 32105) either.

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Reply #110 on: May 25, 2012, 01:29:43 PM

That's why the AH has been done about 20 times since launch.

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Reply #111 on: May 25, 2012, 03:17:52 PM

I don't even know what a "set" item looks like in this game. What color is it, what do sets look like?
They're green.

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Reply #112 on: May 25, 2012, 03:59:33 PM

That seems like low dps compared to the numbers the level 60 people throw around.  Are sets similar to legendaries in that rares/blues are better than them?
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Reply #113 on: May 25, 2012, 04:01:47 PM

Yep. And that's actually a problem they are looking at
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Reply #114 on: May 25, 2012, 04:42:38 PM

Not sure if this is the best place for this but it looks like Blizzard is delaying the RMAH until further notice.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5149181449


Good move.

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In light of the post-launch obstacles we've encountered, we have made the decision to move the launch of the real-money auction house beyond the previously estimated May time frame. As we mentioned in our original announcement, our goal has always been to ensure everyone has the smoothest experience possible when the real-money auction house launches, and we need a bit more time to iron out the existing general stability and gameplay issues before that feature goes live. While we don't have a new launch date to share just yet, we’ll have more information soon.

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Reply #115 on: May 25, 2012, 04:58:13 PM

Ouch. But good for them for not launching something broken.
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Reply #116 on: May 25, 2012, 05:03:52 PM

It also wouldn't make sense for them to release the RMAH when they still have major gear balancing to do. You'd run into a bunch of angry customers that spent real money on the best weapons which are now substantially less useful.
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Reply #117 on: May 25, 2012, 05:17:38 PM

It also wouldn't make sense for them to release the RMAH when they still have major gear balancing to do. You'd run into a bunch of angry customers that spent real money on the best weapons which are now substantially less useful.

It occurred to me that one of the big problems with the old rune system (runes were items that dropped, like gems) would have been that nerfing skill runes would have caused a massive outcry because of auction prices.  Who wants to pay a million gold for a rune that's about to be useless?
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Reply #118 on: May 25, 2012, 05:25:45 PM

Ouch. But good for them for not launching something broken.

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Reply #119 on: May 30, 2012, 04:08:14 AM

Pro Tip: Reduced level requirement is the unqualified ultimate stat you can have on a weapon. Since the weapon DPS increases exponentially, getting a weapon that is 5-10 levels above you will blow your character's DPS through the roof. I'm not sure the earliest point where it shows up, but you should certainly be looking for it aggressively once you hit level 45+. Once you are in the 50s and you can equip weapons from late hell/inferno you will find things much easier. Currently level 56 and wielding a 560ish DPS mace, which is 3-4 times more DPS than any weapon that can drop in the content I am running. With all my other gear my hero DPS is over 12K now, and that's with 119% gold find, 20K HP and 200ish resists.

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Reply #120 on: May 30, 2012, 04:35:49 AM

Pro Tip: Reduced level requirement is the unqualified ultimate stat you can have on a weapon. Since the weapon DPS increases exponentially, getting a weapon that is 5-10 levels above you will blow your character's DPS through the roof. I'm not sure the earliest point where it shows up, but you should certainly be looking for it aggressively once you hit level 45+. Once you are in the 50s and you can equip weapons from late hell/inferno you will find things much easier. Currently level 56 and wielding a 560ish DPS mace, which is 3-4 times more DPS than any weapon that can drop in the content I am running. With all my other gear my hero DPS is over 12K now, and that's with 119% gold find, 20K HP and 200ish resists.

Thanks. Saw this stat on a few things recently (barb is lvl 52) and didn't really know what to make of it.

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Reply #121 on: May 30, 2012, 04:56:44 AM

If you enter 60 as the minimum level, and set the minimum value for the reduced level requirement stat to 60-<yourlevel> you'll get level 60 weapons you can use. Even a blue level 60 weapon with no other stats, but 2-3x your DPS will make everything so much better for you.

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Reply #122 on: May 30, 2012, 06:00:15 AM

Oh man, awesome tip, thanks K9!

I just went and spent 200k on a lvl 60 weapon for my lvl 54 monk who is now punching the everliving shitty fuck out of the spiders in the Hell Act I caverns like they were made of wet tissue paper.

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Reply #123 on: May 30, 2012, 07:13:09 AM

Yeah, that's totally a great tip. Got a 131dex, 320dps for 60k at level 52.
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Reply #124 on: May 30, 2012, 08:31:22 AM

Whoa. 548 dps, 100+ dex and vit at level 54. Thank you.
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Reply #125 on: May 30, 2012, 11:21:23 AM

Y'all are most welcome!

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Reply #126 on: May 30, 2012, 11:34:08 AM

Wow thanks for that tip.

Level < 59 weapons are so much more expensive on the AH than Level 60 ones (market is flooded right now by all the inferno players dumping their stuff) but I never considered that although I know the reduced level stat
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Reply #127 on: May 30, 2012, 06:56:43 PM

Yes, best tip ever. Thank you  Heart Heart

Switching out my lvl 46 legendary staff against a lvl 48 rare x-bow (-7 lvl requirement) my DPS doubles ! (1900 to 3800)


Edit:

Behold the power of the crossbow! The difference was so astounding I went ahead and killed Azmodan on Nightmare sans magic or potions, only using the crossbow autoattack. (I am a wizard)

Video proof here: Youtube 4m22s
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Reply #128 on: May 31, 2012, 01:35:22 AM

Hah, that's awesome.

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Reply #129 on: May 31, 2012, 02:20:45 AM

Yes, best tip ever. Thank you  Heart Heart

Switching out my lvl 46 legendary staff against a lvl 48 rare x-bow (-7 lvl requirement) my DPS doubles ! (1900 to 3800)


Edit:

Behold the power of the crossbow! The difference was so astounding I went ahead and killed Azmodan on Nightmare sans magic or potions, only using the crossbow autoattack. (I am a wizard)

Video proof here: Youtube 4m22s

You just ruined the game for me :(

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Reply #130 on: May 31, 2012, 02:35:28 AM

How far down can the item requirements tumble ?

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Reply #131 on: May 31, 2012, 03:00:09 AM

How far down can the item requirements tumble ?


I've personally  seen -12 on a level 60 weapon.  Said weapon sold for a large amount. :)
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Reply #132 on: May 31, 2012, 03:08:25 AM

That seems...poorly thought out.

I think the limit was 3 in previous games ?

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Reply #133 on: May 31, 2012, 03:35:15 AM

I'll have to try this on an alt because all the weapons I see for the Barb are in the millions of gold range.

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Reply #134 on: May 31, 2012, 04:30:17 AM

That seems...poorly thought out.

I think the limit was 3 in previous games ?

D3 has itemization issues, film at 11.

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Reply #135 on: May 31, 2012, 05:43:30 AM

Quick AH search finds this. (Level 42 req)



I don't see what the big deal is anyways though, you level really fast so most of this type of gear (not all obviously, that does more than my level 60 2H) will just be obsolete when you hit 60.  No one cares much how fast you are clearing nightmare.

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Reply #136 on: May 31, 2012, 06:03:10 AM

Um, that's a good weapon for 60 as well - over a 1000 dps is a good number for Act1 inferno.

And I think the absolute best weapons for 1/3 of the game being items that can only drop in inferno difficulty is a bit broken surely? I don't mind the best gear being hard to find and very rare, but when it's not actually capable of dropping for another 18 levels I think that's a bad thing for the games itemisation.
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Reply #137 on: May 31, 2012, 06:48:59 AM

Um, that's a good weapon for 60 as well - over a 1000 dps is a good number for Act1 inferno.

That would be why I pointed out in this specific case it does more damage than the 2H I'm using at 60.  Ohhhhh, I see.

But that is a small minority of items.

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Reply #138 on: May 31, 2012, 07:03:37 AM

Where would a thing like that drop? Inferno or Hell or NM?
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Reply #139 on: May 31, 2012, 07:44:25 AM

At the very earliest Hell act4 (which you'll be 60 at), but more likely the later acts of Inferno with those mods.
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