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Reply #175 on: June 10, 2012, 01:55:29 PM

Thanks MM, yeah just found the patch note, says it won't drop as  much from the urns.  The bashing items has really sucked for gold or items or heck mobs too.  But I'm gonna see if my idea will fly with extra gold and run act 1 nightmare and see how it does.  Oh and figured out how to change quest/act/difficulty and how to do advanced set up on my character too, maybe no more cramped left hand!! 
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Reply #176 on: June 10, 2012, 03:04:36 PM

You have to use the Change Quest button on the character select screen now to change Acts. I think I remember reading about a change to how much gold drops from ash urns, may have been hotfixed.

Hotfix'd read: completely taken out of the game. I just ran that part in Inferno, nothing dropped out of the urns at all.

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Reply #177 on: June 10, 2012, 04:13:30 PM

Is there duping going on already?  Was looking for a necklace with dex/attack speed there were about 20 with the exact same stat, all for the same price, with the same time left on auction..
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Reply #178 on: June 10, 2012, 05:09:25 PM

Must have been from a vendor; sometimes you'll roll a ring/neck on one of them that's not terrible. Assuming it was a magic neck, not rare.

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Reply #179 on: June 10, 2012, 05:52:57 PM

Might be one of the craftables and the guy cranked out a bunch.  There is also a rumour that there is some way to crash the game while crafting if you don't make the best quality item and try again with your mats saved but I don't know how legit it is.
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Reply #180 on: June 11, 2012, 09:39:15 AM

You can't craft jewellery

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Reply #181 on: June 11, 2012, 09:49:35 AM

Is there duping going on already?  Was looking for a necklace with dex/attack speed there were about 20 with the exact same stat, all for the same price, with the same time left on auction..

I would be shocked if there weren't.

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Reply #182 on: June 11, 2012, 09:56:11 AM

Yeah, this is buying from the vendor.
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Reply #183 on: June 12, 2012, 01:02:54 AM

There is massive duping going on right now. People can easily roll back auctions and get refunds by simply turning back the local clock. (That's so 1998).

Don't buy anything from the AH right now, you might lose the purchase and your money.

I don't know if they already hotfixed the issue
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Reply #184 on: June 12, 2012, 01:04:38 AM

The local clock ?  Seriously ?

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Reply #185 on: June 12, 2012, 01:34:59 AM

Cancel times for the AH are for some inane reason linked to the local clock. Some programmer must be feeling damn stupid right now at Blizzard.

There are screenshots, stories and rumours about this being exploited to dupe gold and items, but so far I can't actually find a video of the dupe happening. There are screenshots and videos of people running round with insane aborts of gold, but that's easily done by changing the number of your character sheet on the client (won't actually let you spend the gold in game). Blizzard are saying there is no dupe and hasn't been any duping - whether or not that's true is another matter. Bashiok has been quite... forthright with people In calling the out on this and saying it doesn't exist.

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Reply #186 on: June 12, 2012, 02:44:09 AM

There are also videos and reports of people having lost huge amounts of money on the AH (one of the guys that videologs his hardcore runs lost 4 million gold)

and yes it's the local clock. Blizzard obviously has forgotten everything they've learned in the last 7 years.
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Reply #187 on: June 12, 2012, 04:20:32 AM

I don't think it's a case of forgetting - using the system clock in that respect is clearly a mistake. No-one would EVER use it for that purpose deliberately. Am betting it was done as a quick fix early on in development and the forgotten about.
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Reply #188 on: June 12, 2012, 04:26:31 AM

lol.

So they didn't forget, they just forgot ?

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Reply #189 on: June 12, 2012, 05:39:09 AM

So took em how many years to develop and launch this title and within the first month we have seen more exploits, duping, account hax etc combined with out of control bots that arent being banned that have accumlatively decimated the AH which is a key function of the game for Inferno progression(at least to get past Act II).  Someone at Blizzard needs to be throat punched, probably a few people actually.
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Reply #190 on: June 12, 2012, 05:40:42 AM

But always online gaming will solve these problems.

 why so serious?

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Reply #191 on: June 12, 2012, 06:25:19 AM

But always online gaming will solve these problems.

 why so serious?

Always?  why so serious?

And yeah... the AH is completely out of control for level 60s gear. Every 1h weapon above 1k dps has a price so far from reality, I am wondering if I am playing a different game. Armor is a tad better, but you still get the WTF dumb inflated prices on some of the VIT and +all Resist stuff. I get that those pieces are in demand, but not XX millions. I am very curious as to what happens if and when the RMTAH goes online. 

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Reply #192 on: June 12, 2012, 06:52:36 AM

The Korean servers were down all weekend, which led to much Korean rage on the NA forums. Many people claimed the servers were taken down due to massive duping. Who knows what the truth of the matter is - I wouldn't trust Blizzard's word on this (or much of anything else at this point).

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Reply #193 on: June 12, 2012, 10:02:59 AM

lol.

So they didn't forget, they just forgot ?


Gods that was badly written by me! ;-)

They didn't forget basic programming rules. They did a quick fix early on and then forgot it existed. I absolutely refuse to believe on any level that tying the AH expiry date to the system clock was a decision that was signed off and agreed on. You dont need any experiance at all to realise what a catastrophic decision that is!
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Reply #194 on: June 12, 2012, 11:08:09 AM

Last time we thought there was something going on (the session hijacking) it turned out to be bullshit rumor, so I'll wait for proof before I worry about it. Easy for me to say, though, I'm not operating up in the millions of gold per item zone of the auction house.

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Reply #195 on: June 12, 2012, 11:51:43 AM

Well the real money auction house is live.  Amazing items for $3
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Reply #196 on: June 12, 2012, 11:56:05 AM

Profits!

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Reply #197 on: June 12, 2012, 12:11:19 PM

Heh.  Decide to see it.  Switch servers.  "PATCH NEEDED".  CRASH.  CRASH.  CRASH.

Fuck me sideways.

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Reply #198 on: June 12, 2012, 12:25:21 PM

Ah, forgot that today is the day for that. Popcorn

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Reply #199 on: June 12, 2012, 12:30:01 PM


Thought about selling my sweet legendary belt, but I see that 11 pages worth of people have already had the same idea!

1622 DPS 2-handers can be yours for only $250...
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Reply #200 on: June 12, 2012, 12:30:33 PM

1622 DPS 2-handers can be yours for only $250...

What?  ACK! ACK!

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Reply #201 on: June 12, 2012, 12:31:46 PM

I wonder how far off most of the prices are from where they'll eventually settle? If you could predict which things are underpriced in the initial flurry and will sell for much more later...

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Reply #202 on: June 12, 2012, 12:42:13 PM

Can't you buy gold too? really need to look at that as a good indicator.

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Reply #203 on: June 12, 2012, 12:51:33 PM

Huh. I can't check right now, but what's the minimum RM price on a non-crap Stormshield? That seems like a good way to gauge the price of end game items.
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Reply #204 on: June 12, 2012, 12:58:12 PM

Lowest price for ok Stormshields is ~$30 atm. I see that they appear to be selling at that amount too.
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Reply #205 on: June 12, 2012, 01:14:37 PM

And ok stormshields are what, $10m? $15m? in gold? With that price only going to go up, quickly? Assuming you farm at 400K/hour, which is kind of pretty darn efficient, that's about 20-30 hours of work. Is it reasonable to think about  paying $1/hr to remove that block? Probably.

I can't wait to see how high everything spikes on the gold AH: my guess is that endgame stuff is going to double or treble overnight.

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Reply #206 on: June 12, 2012, 01:20:27 PM

Thats to much god dam money. Fools shall soon be parted.

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Reply #207 on: June 12, 2012, 01:26:41 PM

So, uh, the message "Your account has been blocked from using the Real Money Auction House by parental controls. Please contact Customer Service if you believe this was done in error." isn't normal then?
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Reply #208 on: June 12, 2012, 01:27:46 PM

Not unless you were grounded recently.

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Reply #209 on: June 12, 2012, 01:30:34 PM

RMAH requires authenticator as well...

Really thought RMAH would reduce the cost of the AH items by having another avenue to pursue items... completely forgot about buying sums of money. Wonder how long till RNG kills my drive to play.

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