NFL 2012

[Segoris]

Tebow probably would have been alright for it if he would stop praying so his hands can be used to catch the damn ball  


And yeah, I'm not too happy for Forte since he should have had his contract already. He's already speaking out about it as he should be.

[sickrubik]

I would not mind seeing Frote on the Broncos.  

Also, both Clark and Tamme will be visiting the Broncos, and could be a very good solution at TE, givne the Manningness of the team now. INDY WEST

And then minutes later... "Texans free agent tight end Joel Dreessen will choose between Broncos and Texans Friday morning." -- I would not be mad with this.

[sickrubik]

So, a day after the Bears signed Michael Bush, Marion Barber retires.

Broncos add Joel Dressen, Jacob Tamme and Tracy Porter (whom I really hope is not included in bounty gate).

But.. Saturday goes to the Packers made me sad. :(

[HaemishM]

Saturday to the Packers is all kinds of

[Chimpy]

Saturday to the Packers is all kinds of

Woah. Packers picked up a good I lineman in free agency? That is the opposite of what usually happens. Usually all their good ones leave.

[Ingmar]

He's the first free agent of ANY kind they've signed in like 3 years. At least from outside their own team.

[sickrubik]

And the NFL Network misses the god damn point....

Earlier on Friday, NFL Network addressed the recent on-air proclamation from analyst Warren Sapp that former Saints tight end Jeremy Shockey was the (in Sapp’s words) “snitch” regarding the Saints’ bounty program.  Specifically, NFLN Senior Vice President of Programming and Production Mark Quenzel said the league-owned network has “discussed it with Warren and stressed that he is an analyst and not a reporter for NFL Network.”

EDIT: "Jets trade Drew Stanton to the Colts." -- The circle is complete!

[Malakili]

 Specifically, NFLN Senior Vice President of Programming and Production Mark Quenzel said the league-owned network has “discussed it with Warren and stressed that he is an analyst and not a reporter for NFL Network.”[/url]

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[Paelos]

Paraphrasing a quote from Cowherd this morning on the radio:

Man the tension in Arizona is palpable. Those fans really wanted Kolb out of there. They like the team, they like the defense, they like the vision and the coaches. They hate their QB. They think he cares more about hunting and fishing than football, and they were gunning hard for Manning. Now that they didn't get him, this thing is going to get supremely awkward.

[Sauced]

Rules changes:

- Overtime changed to match new Playoff format.  Both teams get a turn unless first team scores a touchdown.
- Turnovers join touchdowns as Automatic reviews.  Two extra tv time outs + 15 minutes per game.  Yay.

[Bungee]

- Turnovers join touchdowns as Automatic reviews.  Two extra tv time outs + 15 minutes per game.  Yay.

Argh, like they didn't have enough commercials already. I guess this just means more watching the game in as-live with the gamepass package...

[Malakili]

Rules changes:

- Overtime changed to match new Playoff format.  Both teams get a turn unless first team scores a touchdown.
- Turnovers join touchdowns as Automatic reviews.  Two extra tv time outs + 15 minutes per game.  Yay.

I actually support the turnovers rule, but I think that it is poorly defined if it works this way.  If only turnovers that actually happen are reviewed that only solves part of the problem.  In much the same way the touchdown rule doesn't help the cases in which the guy was ruled out of bounds, this won't help things like an interception being ruled on the field an incomplete pass.

I know that coaches can still use their challenges in those situations, and that the rule means that they won't have to "waste" challenges in other situations which are now covered by the automatic rule, but I'd prefer if they worded it in such a way that covered all the scenarios.   Then again, I'm in support of them just going full on for what college football does and just having an off the field official that reviews every play as they are happening and buzzes down if he feels anything needs another look.  I've never felt like a college game was unduly delayed because of this, and it removes all the shenanigans.

[HaemishM]

- Turnovers join touchdowns as Automatic reviews.  Two extra tv time outs + 15 minutes per game.  Yay.

Argh, like they didn't have enough commercials already. I guess this just means more watching the game in as-live with the gamepass package...

Yeah, I'm not happy about this. Fuck me, I support instant replay, but there are really way too many delays in the game because of it. I like the way rubgy does it. One official, off the field, is asked to review a play by the ref if it's something he didn't see clearly. And usually, it's only scoring plays. I think the gamesmanship involved with the current challenge system really kills the game flow.

[ghost]

Why don't we just run the game on TV at 15 minutes behind the live game and review the whole damned thing?  I hate instant replay.

[caladein]

Yes, I love competitions of world class athletes being decided by the faulty eye sight of old men, who are likely in such a terrible position that their eye sight is the least of their issues.

[Paelos]

I wouldn't mind all the commercials during NFL games if it wasn't the SAME GODDAM COMMERCIALS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Here's the John guy shilling bad pizza.
Here's the phone commerical with the flying footballs.
Here's the stupid Here-we-go campaign for beer.
Here's the commercial with a shitty truck talking about awards we never see.
Here's the credit card trying to pretend they aren't fucking you in the ass.
Here's the ad about shipping logistics
Here's the sportdrink that makes you awesome at sports
Here's the cola that won't make you fat

Rinse, repeat, over and over and over and over 15 more times a game.

[Malakili]

I wouldn't mind all the commercials during NFL games if it wasn't the SAME GODDAM COMMERCIALS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Here's the John guy shilling bad pizza.
Here's the phone commerical with the flying footballs.
Here's the stupid Here-we-go campaign for beer.
Here's the commercial with a shitty truck talking about awards we never see.
Here's the credit card trying to pretend they aren't fucking you in the ass.
Here's the ad about shipping logistics
Here's the sportdrink that makes you awesome at sports
Here's the cola that won't make you fat

Rinse, repeat, over and over and over and over 15 more times a game.

Looks like success, you remember them all!

[Segoris]

Not a fan of the replay decision to keep the final decision up to the head ref, though I do like adding turnovers like scoring plays (though as Mala stated earlier it is an incomplete rule that should be expanded) and am still unsure why the horse-collar rule wasn't changed on QB.


In other news, Brandon Jacobs is a 49er now. that is a hell of a 1-2 punch for a running game adding to a couple of WRs and a TE that can even make Smith look good. The 49ers are looking scarier by the minute even without winning the Manning sweepstakes.

[Rasix]

I wouldn't mind all the commercials during NFL games if it wasn't the SAME GODDAM COMMERCIALS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Here's the John guy shilling bad pizza.
Here's the phone commerical with the flying footballs.
Here's the stupid Here-we-go campaign for beer.
Here's the commercial with a shitty truck talking about awards we never see.
Here's the credit card trying to pretend they aren't fucking you in the ass.
Here's the ad about shipping logistics
Here's the sportdrink that makes you awesome at sports
Here's the cola that won't make you fat

Rinse, repeat, over and over and over and over 15 more times a game.

You forgot about boner pills.

[HaemishM]

To be fair, the Niners didn't really need Manning. He would have just been a significant upgrade to an already powerful team. I'm not sure Jacobs has a whole lot left in the tank as a starter, but 1) not playing on turf and 2) being a relief back for Frank Gore are both things that will significantly raise his usefulness.

[Paelos]

Looks like success, you remember them all!

Yeah, but the funny thing is I don't use any of those products. I drink Coke, don't drink beer anymore, use Sprint, drive a Lexus, I don't ship things, I drink Powerade, and I prefer local pizza.

Actually I do use VISA for debit cards. That's the only one.

[Segoris]

To be fair, the Niners didn't really need Manning. He would have just been a significant upgrade to an already powerful team. I'm not sure Jacobs has a whole lot left in the tank as a starter, but 1) not playing on turf and 2) being a relief back for Frank Gore are both things that will significantly raise his usefulness.

While I agere that they don't necessarily need Manning, they'd be even more so of a Bowl contender if he's playing well since Smith is really the weak link for their offense at this point (at least on days Moss feels like playing).

As for Jacobs, it really is more about upgrading their backfield package regardless of what down it is. If I'm a defense, and I already had to plan on Davis, Moss, Manningham, Crabtree, and Gore - then you add in Jacobs it's just another headache to practice for.

[MuffinMan]

Yeah, but the funny thing is I don't use any of those products. I drink Coke, don't drink beer anymore, use Sprint, drive a Lexus, I don't ship things, I drink Powerade, and I prefer local pizza.

You made anyone that reads your post think about Papa John's. I'd say that's more successful than if you picked up a phone and ordered a pizza yourself.

EDIT:Grammar are hard.

[Paelos]

I'm secretly a papa johns mole.

[Tannhauser]

Jesus Christ the Niners are loaded for this season!  Hope their Dream Team doesn't wind up like Philly's. 

Also, I hate the extra commercial time.  Knock it off.

[Paelos]

NFL games will now take a minimum of four hours.

[Ginaz]

I'm secretly a papa johns mole.

I like Papa John's.

[shiznitz]

The games were going to take longer regardless with the new overtime rules.   

It is not clear to me is the turnover review rules only mean that a turnover might get reversed or whether an action on the field not ruled a turnover can be ruled a turnover in fact.  The second is more problematic than the first.  Most turnovers are pretty clear cut.

[Paelos]

The games were going to take longer regardless with the new overtime rules.   

It is not clear to me is the turnover review rules only mean that a turnover might get reversed or whether an action on the field not ruled a turnover can be ruled a turnover in fact.  The second is more problematic than the first.  Most turnovers are pretty clear cut.

Most fumbles are not clear cut in real time.

[Segoris]

The games were going to take longer regardless with the new overtime rules.   

It is not clear to me is the turnover review rules only mean that a turnover might get reversed or whether an action on the field not ruled a turnover can be ruled a turnover in fact.  The second is more problematic than the first.  Most turnovers are pretty clear cut.

The rule is the same as with touchdowns that only rulings that are called a touchdown (or in this case, a turnover) can be reversed. So the call on the field must be that the play resulted in a turnover for the booth review to come into effect.

[shiznitz]

Ok, but most fumbles will be mechanically un-reviewable since they involve a ground scrum invisible to most camera angles.  I see this mostly playing out on strange interception/incomplete pass situations, but even then if the ball doesn't hit the ground, possession is the law.

I am trying to think of a play from this last season where a fumble turnover was not turnover.  The challenges I kind of remember involved a red flag leading to a non-turnover becoming a turnover.  Those will not be addressed by this rule.

[Malakili]

Ok, but most fumbles will be mechanically un-reviewable since they involve a ground scrum invisible to most camera angles.  I see this mostly playing out on strange interception/incomplete pass situations, but even then if the ball doesn't hit the ground, possession is the law.

I am trying to think of a play from this last season where a fumble turnover was not turnover.  The challenges I kind of remember involved a red flag leading to a non-turnover becoming a turnover.  Those will not be addressed by this rule.

This will mainly address fumbles where the guys knee is down prior to the ball coming out.

[sickrubik]

The new jerseys are out. Seahawks the only one with a big redesign.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8280d110/article/nfl-nike-roll-out-new-uniforms-for-32-teams?module=HP11_cp

[HaemishM]

Whole lot of sleeve stripage there.

[01101010]

I think the Browns uniforms are going to just be solid white tops and brown pants. They aren't even going to put names on the jerseys anymore because playing on this team is cruel and unusual punishment and shaming would just be overkill.