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on: March 05, 2012, 09:25:30 AM

There's a trailer floating around now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwAoHhV2dt8&noredirect=1

Figured this could use its own topic. I am very pleased with this, other than the potential button real estate issues that legacy powers imply.


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Reply #1 on: March 05, 2012, 09:51:28 AM

Looks great.  Maybe some balancing concerns with the legacy abilities in addition to being out of buttons already.  Also, they're not messing around with just the "side" races for legacy unlocks.  Chiss Smugglers and Pureblood Jedi, love it.

Hopefully there's good stuff on the lower end of the level range.

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Reply #2 on: March 05, 2012, 10:11:17 AM

Can we get a text summary, please?  I don't want to have to wait seven hours to watch this.

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Reply #3 on: March 05, 2012, 10:11:49 AM

Can we get a text summary, please?  I don't want to have to wait seven hours to watch this.

In short: Miracle patch.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #4 on: March 05, 2012, 10:19:41 AM

That patch is looking pretty damn awesome.   awesome, for real
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Reply #5 on: March 05, 2012, 10:20:26 AM

Oh, holy shit.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #6 on: March 05, 2012, 10:21:56 AM

Can we get a text summary, please?  I don't want to have to wait seven hours to watch this.

Best I could scrounge up....

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Game update 1.2: Legacy Video

    New Warzone: Novare Coast (planet Denova)

    New Operation: Explosive Conflict (planet Denova)

    New Flashpoint: The Lost island

    Expanded Legacy system: New legacy abilities, new races unlocked race 1 race 2

    Advanced UI customization: the dev team put in a lot of hrs into this.

    Improved character textures

    Appearance customization

    Adding useable to the mission tracker so you don’t have to find them in your inventory

    Warzone rankings (group and solo performance) and new ranked pvp gear tiers

    In –game events: limited time events, created by a dedicated team to make the SWTOR universe more dynamic. Can’t give out a lot of details right now – want to be more of a surprise.

    New Corellia Daily missions

    New mini-pets

    Guild banks: This is something guilds have being asking for since launch – shared bank for guild members to use. Can unlock upto 7 tabs for guild use but it will be very expensive to unlock it all.

    New gear republic empire

    New vehicles

    Extractable tier 2 mods

    New lightsaber colors

    Ship droids gain affection

    New crafting schematic

    Craftable augments

    Legacy item drops

    New roleplay emotes
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Reply #7 on: March 05, 2012, 10:22:52 AM

Because I care THAT MUCH:

First section is new instances/BGs:

- New warzone with a little bit of footage (Novare Coast)
- New Op with a little bit of footage (Explosive Conflict). Fight an AT-ST looking thing.
- New Flashpoint with a little bit of footage (The Lost Island), seems to be continuing the rakghoul story from 1.1

Second section is Legacy stuff:

- Legacy family tree interface shown briefly, appear to be 5ish different relationships you can set?
- Legacy abilities - shows a Sith Warrior using flamethrower, and a Smuggler using force choke (not on Corso despite the fact that he's standing right there)
- Legacy unlocks - shows a mailbox in someone's ship, and what appears to be a training dummy
- Legacy species unlocks - shows what appears to be a pureblood Sith Jedi Knight, and a Chiss smuggler

Third section is "Advanced Options":

- Shows the UI customization interface, it appears to be much like the way you move around elements in LotRO
- Improved character textures - shows a side by side of old textures and new textures, it is hard to tell much because the trailer I found so far is not high res itself
- Appearance customization - shows the interface for the color matching, looks pretty straightforward, shows a trooper making everything orange
- Mission tracker usables - like in WoW, you don't have to go into your inventory page to click mission items anymore

Fourth section is "Additional Features":

- Warzone ranking (shows that you can queue for ranked or regular)
- Dailies being added on Corellia
- New Mini Pets (shows what seems to be a baby tauntaun)
- Guild Banks (shows... a guild bank, and what looks like an interface to decide what types of items are allowed on pages possibly)
- New Gear (shows some new outfits, including what appears to be an inquisitor wearing pants)

Then a bunch of other short text things flashes on the screen:

- New vehicles
- Craftable augments
- New crafting schematics
- extractable Tier 2 mods
- new lightsaber colors
- ship droids gain affection
- legacy item drops
- new roleplay emotes

AND CUT TO LOGO.

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Reply #8 on: March 05, 2012, 10:32:28 AM

From this article.

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Class changes in 1.2 include new abilities for the Warrior and the Knight, a nerf for the Bounty Hunter, and more. Every class will receive changes, and all skill tree points refunded so you can look over the trees again before deciding how to rebuild your class. "Some players will be excited, some might not. That's always the case when there's tweaks to classes."

YAY!  Melee love is also badly needed.

I'm interested in seeing the details pertaining to the legacy system before I get too excited.  I wonder what Legacy level 30 will get me? 

Can I be a cynic and hope that they fix the bugs in the existing elements too?  Foundry and False Emperor Hard modes bugged on us again last night.  Not fun. 

I am happy to see appearance stuff, UI customization, the ability to queue for a specific warzone, a new warzone/Hard mode, and class tweaks.  It may keep me around... I was losing hope now that guildies have mass migrated to ME3. 

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Reply #9 on: March 05, 2012, 10:33:49 AM

Oh god, the last thing I need is new abilities.

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Reply #10 on: March 05, 2012, 10:34:43 AM

Oh god, the last thing I need is new abilities.

I want two more bottom-center hotbars.  That would make me giddy.

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Reply #11 on: March 05, 2012, 10:35:54 AM

Nebu's article has some clarifications on Legacy stuff, worth reading:

- Race unlocks are either by paying with in-game currency, or by hitting 50 with a given race.
- The legacy extra powers are tied to your moment of glory ability (the one that requires a companion out) so you can't use them in warzones, etc.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 10:39:41 AM by Ingmar »

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Reply #12 on: March 05, 2012, 10:40:26 AM

I'm liking that patch a lot and echo the sentiment that there better be a section listed with fixes to known bugs.  We didn't get half our loot on a hard mode kill this weekend because it was on master looter.  16 very unhappy people and 10 closed tickets (working as intended, piss off!) /grumble

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Reply #13 on: March 05, 2012, 10:52:03 AM

Legacy abilities - shows a Sith Warrior using flamethrower, and a Smuggler using force choke (not on Corso despite the fact that he's standing right there)

Being able to roll a Sith Pureblood Smuggler will fix this.   I routinely use the "Punish" racial on my minions and it hasn't lost it's amusement value yet.  Sure, I unlocked Vettes' shock collar but I can still smack a twilek.

ed: Oh, also the texture thing is obvious if you look at the helms.  The dull grey smudge on the left turns into some nice paint chipping on the right.

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Reply #14 on: March 05, 2012, 10:53:03 AM

The only thing I didn't like from that article is the switch to same faction Voidstar matches.  I really liked the way they had framed the warzones in the context of the Empire/Republic conflict but now we're going to have Republic fighting Republic on Voidstar (and eventually Alderaan, too).  That just makes no sense and breaks my precious immersion!  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #15 on: March 05, 2012, 10:54:15 AM

What would be kind of cool is if they just made whoever you were fighting against look like their faction mirrors to you. That might be technically unfeasible I guess.

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Reply #16 on: March 05, 2012, 11:15:21 AM

I like how the "unlock your race for use with other classes" option does absolutely nothing for a level 50 Human and next to nothing for a level 50 Zabrak.
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Reply #17 on: March 05, 2012, 11:34:23 AM

- Legacy abilities - shows a Sith Warrior using flamethrower, and a Smuggler using force choke (not on Corso despite the fact that he's standing right there)

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Also I will seriously do ANYTHING THEY ASK OF ME to get that baby tauntaun pet.

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Reply #18 on: March 05, 2012, 11:34:34 AM

 I wonder what Legacy level 30 will get me?  
Jesus, dude. I thought I was doing pretty good at legacy 10.
.  That just makes no sense and breaks my precious immersion!  Ohhhhh, I see.
The idea of a Sith pureblood JK probably makes Daniel Erikson's head explode.

Also I will seriously do ANYTHING THEY ASK OF ME to get that baby tauntaun pet.
It's a wedding present after you marry Corso Riggs.
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Reply #19 on: March 05, 2012, 11:38:49 AM


Also I will seriously do ANYTHING THEY ASK OF ME to get that baby tauntaun pet.
It's a wedding present after you marry Corso Riggs.


I'LL DO IT

THAT is how badly I want that fucking thing. SO CUTE. I can just arrange for Corso to have a little accident after the wedding. I bet Guss knows a guy.


EDIT: Also I am getting pretty close to Legacy 30 myself. Nebu and I have problems.  why so serious?

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Reply #20 on: March 05, 2012, 11:49:27 AM

The game still needs a LFD feature.
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Reply #21 on: March 05, 2012, 11:51:06 AM

That just makes no sense and breaks my precious immersion!  Ohhhhh, I see.
The idea of a Sith pureblood JK probably makes Daniel Erikson's head explode.

While I'd have been against it if they'd bothered to ask me ( why so serious? ), I can deal with a Pureblood JK.  I could even appreciate the humor if someone made one and named him Drizzt.  Individuals who go against the nature of their race is a staple of sci fi/fantasy.

What I can't wrap my head around is the rational behind Rep vs Rep Voidstars and Alderaans.  It almost makes sense for hot Imp on Imp action since everyone always talks about how the Empire always ends up fighting itself, but what's the excuse on the Republic side?

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Reply #22 on: March 05, 2012, 12:01:21 PM

Separatists.  It's always separatists! 
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Reply #23 on: March 05, 2012, 12:05:34 PM

Also I will seriously do ANYTHING THEY ASK OF ME to get that baby tauntaun pet.

I still want a baby Bantha pet. Blizz could ride on it.  why so serious?

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Reply #24 on: March 05, 2012, 12:08:41 PM

Separatists.  It's always separatists! 

Reading Outbound Flight right now and the Neimoidian vicelord keeps making me chuckle because I hear the voice they used in the prequels when he speaks.

Thrawn is voiced by the IA's VA in my head.
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Reply #25 on: March 05, 2012, 12:24:32 PM

Also I will seriously do ANYTHING THEY ASK OF ME to get that baby tauntaun pet.

I still want a baby Bantha pet. Blizz could ride on it.  why so serious?

That would ALSO be adorable, and I would marry Corso for one of those TOO.

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Reply #26 on: March 05, 2012, 12:25:14 PM

I like how the "unlock your race for use with other classes" option does absolutely nothing for a level 50 Human and next to nothing for a level 50 Zabrak.

Well, it's not like the game forced you to roll a boring human  awesome, for real

Patch sounds awesome. In particular the UI customization, color matching, and high res textures will all be very welcome. Release this patch right after I finish ME3, okay Bioware?
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Reply #27 on: March 05, 2012, 12:28:29 PM

Hell, release it before I'm done with ME3, and do a hotfix of whatever isn't working quite right before I'm done with ME3!  why so serious?

(Haha, just kidding, I will be done with ME3 by Friday, probably.)

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Reply #28 on: March 05, 2012, 12:28:51 PM

The game still needs a LFD feature.

I have to agree with Draegan.  As awesome as this kitchen sink patch sounds, and it is, this feature is pretty much where I have the line drawn between TOR and WoW.

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Reply #29 on: March 05, 2012, 12:29:19 PM

Hell, release it before I'm done with ME3, and do a hotfix of whatever isn't working quite right before I'm done with ME3!  why so serious?

(Haha, just kidding, I will be done with ME3 by Friday, probably.)

Friday? Doubting yourself this early?

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Reply #30 on: March 05, 2012, 12:32:51 PM

By "done" I mean "did a run through on MANSHEP and LadyShep."

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Reply #31 on: March 05, 2012, 12:50:44 PM

Maybe we could save some space by simply working out who you won't marry for a tauntaun.   awesome, for real
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Reply #32 on: March 05, 2012, 12:57:47 PM

I'm pretty sure there isn't anyone she wouldn't marry for a tauntaun.  Including C2, General Garza and the Emperor.  why so serious?

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Reply #33 on: March 05, 2012, 12:59:41 PM

Maybe we could save some space by simply working out who you won't marry for a tauntaun.   awesome, for real

Corso is akin to "last man on Earth."

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Reply #34 on: March 05, 2012, 01:00:09 PM

Maybe we could save some space by simply working out who you won't marry for a tauntaun.   awesome, for real

Corso is akin to "last man on Earth."

Not to everyone!

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