Prometheus

[sickrubik]

Finally got around to seeing this. Liked it quite a bit. Alien and Aliens are still much better films, but from a rough read through this thread, not seeing the problems others saw. Well, other than the Geologist dude. That was just weird.

[Tannhauser]

My position has softened on this movie. 


I'm not going to go see it again, but might buy the Director's Extended Cut OMGWTFBBQ editon for the extra footage, I'm always a sucker for that.

[Merusk]

Plus, what is good tension when scientists play it safe? 

Andromeda strain

[UnSub]

Plus, what is good tension when scientists play it safe? 

Andromeda strain

Benjamin Bratt was great in that. 

[Lantyssa]

It's a crew going to an unknown solar system with two years in stasis.  The real top-notch people won't be swayed by money.  They needed either True Believers (the starry-eyed dimwits) or the A-Team (mercs and the personalities that come with).

Yes some really dumb shit happened, but it probably wasn't all that out of character given this was probably a first contact situation led by starry-eyed dimwits.

[Riggswolfe]

I saw it on Saturday and took some time to think about it. The more I think about it the more the movie falls apart and only adds to the "everything after Aliens was shit" history of this franchise. Between this and Robin Hood I'm thinking it's about time Ridley retires.

My problems with the movie:

[sickrubik]

[Lantyssa]

[sickrubik]

[Engels]

[Surlyboi]

[Riggswolfe]

[SurfD]

[01101010]

Directive 4. 

[Merusk]

David's story was the only one that really intrigued me.  I felt that a little more examination there and a little less "lol, biologist & geologist odd-couple!" would have helped a lot.

[Mattemeo]

That is the only picture I could find that has a good idea of scale. They are clearly taller but not twice the size and not the same size as the one in Alien which was freaking gigantic.

That is a pre post-production still. You can clearly see filming equipment in shot. Therefore you're comparing a relatively normal size human being portraying a giant alien before anyone's had the chance to digitally embiggen him as he appears in the movie.

[Riggswolfe]

That is the only picture I could find that has a good idea of scale. They are clearly taller but not twice the size and not the same size as the one in Alien which was freaking gigantic.

That is a pre post-production still. You can clearly see filming equipment in shot. Therefore you're comparing a relatively normal size human being portraying a giant alien before anyone's had the chance to digitally embiggen him as he appears in the movie.

True but my memory of the movie is that that is about the right size. I don't remember them being 2x the size of a human just large like say a basketball player compared to an average man.

[Merusk]

Consider the size of the helmet/ head.  It was easily the size of the woman scientist's torso.

[Mrbloodworth]

Hay guys!

They totally adjusted the size in the decades between movies, they also completely remodeled that room with cryobeds and chairs ( not in the first movie ).


Who gives a shit!

[RT81]

Some internet dude breaks down all the symbolism for us.

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

I was very interested in seeing this in the theater, but the reactions online, and the fact that Lindork wrote some of it, makes me want to wait for Blu-Ray, so I can watch it in the comfort of my underwear.

I'm unlurking for a bit here because this really confuses me. Are we supposed to watch and get all that out of it? Did they intentionally make it obscured to encourage every nerd on the internet to translate the movie for us? Am I just stupid for not catching any of it? I'm serious here, I feel dumb because I didn't notice any of that stuff. It's all very intriguing, but it would have been nice if the movie would have been just a tad bit more obvious about it.

[Comstar]

Not only was it hidden from the audience, it seems to have been hidden from the characters. Including the things they themselves experienced in the previous scene

Maybe the film's supposed to be watched backwards.

[Ratman_tf]

Some internet dude breaks down all the symbolism for us.

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html#cutid1

I was very interested in seeing this in the theater, but the reactions online, and the fact that Lindork wrote some of it, makes me want to wait for Blu-Ray, so I can watch it in the comfort of my underwear.

I'm unlurking for a bit here because this really confuses me. Are we supposed to watch and get all that out of it? Did they intentionally make it obscured to encourage every nerd on the internet to translate the movie for us? Am I just stupid for not catching any of it? I'm serious here, I feel dumb because I didn't notice any of that stuff. It's all very intriguing, but it would have been nice if the movie would have been just a tad bit more obvious about it.

Damon Lindorff is a pretentious moron. That's all you need to take away from the article.

[Margalis]

They totally adjusted the size in the decades between movies, they also completely remodeled that room with cryobeds and chairs ( not in the first movie ).

It's not the same place!

(Which is a fault of the movie, let's get real - at some point in the script it clearly was the same place)

[Ghambit]

[Lantyssa]

He was a geologist.  I assume he was into Hard Rock and Heavy Metal.

(Get it? )

[Ghambit]

He was a geologist.  I assume he was into Hard Rock and Heavy Metal.

(Get it? )

Fixed.
And 

[Mrbloodworth]

His best role yet.

[angry.bob]

I'm nursing a pet theory that the xenomorph existed before the engies found it, dicked with the dna and made a black goo soup to use as WMD. The black soup went and horked the planet from Prometheus, but that doesn't mean that the xenomorph from Alien was a WMD; perhaps it was the original species.[/spoiler]

The aliens have a canon homeworld, A6 454. It was used in several of the old Dark Horse comics and the game AvP3. They're the dominant life form, but not the only one, and not the most dangerous one. They never go into much detail, but it's supposed to be some sort of fucked up deathworld where everything preys on everything else. Of course it's doubtful they've stuck to that, nor does it mean that the Engineers couldn't have taken some and fiddled with them.

[Tannhauser]

So if the xenomorphs are weapons, who are the Engineers using them on? 

[Samwise]

So if the xenomorphs are weapons, who are the Engineers using them on? 

Us.  That was pretty much the entire plot of the movie.   

[Mattemeo]

It's theorised that the Engineers are in the middle of a civil war. Any biological weapon that works on Humans should work on Engineers - we're the eugenic guinea pigs for one faction of Ubermenschen's mass extermination experiments.

[Tannhauser]

So if the xenomorphs are weapons, who are the Engineers using them on? 

Us.  That was pretty much the entire plot of the movie.   

If that's the case why did they want us to go to that planet.

The actual plot of the movie was

[Samwise]

So if the xenomorphs are weapons, who are the Engineers using them on? 

Us.  That was pretty much the entire plot of the movie.   

If that's the case why did they want us to go to that planet.

The actual plot of the movie was

Yes, that was a thing, but... did you not watch the movie?     There's not really anything ambiguous about it.  That's why they have to crash the thing into the other thing.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Again, it's not hard to infer that we were created in god's(engi's) image to be...something. Slaves, worshippers, evolved like them? Then something happened and the plan changed. Up until that point they were wanting us to go back to the cradle of life, when they changed their minds though, eden turned sour and they developed the means to destroy what they created.

Whether they invented the alien or not is up to speculation since it's on the mural on clearly existed in some form before the end of the movie.

[01101010]

Again, it's not hard to infer that we were created in god's(engi's) image to be...something. Slaves, worshippers, evolved like them? Then something happened and the plan changed.

We killed Jesus.