Patch Notes

[Paelos]

Hey, I love the game, I am subbed to the game, and I will continue playing the game.

But I love me a good CS Trainwreck.

[ajax34i]

One thing is sure, Bioware is sure ding!-ing like crazy in terms of incoming experience with running a MMO and the typical MMO player behavior.  In fact, their buffer might be overflowing.  Hopefully it leads to an increase in CS staff numbers, and better QA processes for patches.

I imagine the suits are thinking "Whoever said MMO's are profitable, that's a load of crap.  All the money we made with the box sales has to now be spent on more staff to fix and deal with issues."

[Threash]

Either it was hotfixed hours ago or those turrets never actually gave any valor.  What DID give a lot of valor was killing repubs, and i can see people exploiting that a lot more than anything.  Those people in the video are camping a spawn point, not farming turrets.

[zardoz]

I don't understand, why did bioware not turn the turrets into insta kill weapons.

Oh and if you are stuck there just queue for a pvp warzone, join it and afk out. Voilà instant travel to the fleet........

[Hayduke]

Yeah I don't think it's the turrets.  It's the fact that there's a huge valor multiplier when you control the zone and you're corpse camping + sending alts to feed people.  Regardless you don't get that many people sitting in one place to count their frame rate unless they're getting something out of it.

I think BioWare could spin this as being the first major developer to offer substantive character advancement free of the old PvP and PvE paradigms.

[Threash]

Meanwhile in other fail pvp news i won a warzone and it didn't count for the daily, yay bug fixes.

[01101010]

Well thank christ companion's abilities remain off after...well... you do anything. 

[tmp]

The one things that the patch added, which i'm not sure made it into the notes as i only noticed them by accident in game...

- two new social pilot outfits, sold by fleet commendation vendors. One for Social 1 and one for Social 3. Both come with pants and equally importantly, orange belts.

[Ingmar]

Light armor only I assume.

[Nonentity]

The 271 page thread in the pvp subforum is delicious. I've seen a few news stories about it posted already.

[tmp]

Light armor only I assume.

Yup, though i'm not sure if the medium and heavy armours also suffer from lack of orange belts? Definitely not the pants.

[Outlawedprod]

Yeah I don't think it's the turrets.  It's the fact that there's a huge valor multiplier when you control the zone and you're corpse camping + sending alts to feed people.  Regardless you don't get that many people sitting in one place to count their frame rate unless they're getting something out of it.

Maybe they didn't even need alts. This seems pretty good valor if the kills keep rolling like that.
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4026/screenshot2012011823380.jpg

[ajax34i]

Things I've noticed after patching and loading the game:

- They fixed the green laser sky issue.  The thing that was creating the green laser now has a different model with a blue flame instead, so no more green laser skies ever.

- Improved transparency handling; the loot beacons are now see-through for me, and look much better.

- Much improved LOD handling; the ground tiles are now blurry beyond where the grass grows, and atmospheric effects get reduced in the distance too (dust haze on Tatooine for example).  This has resulted in MUCH less stuttering for me as I walk about, and in improved frame rates.  Tested Taris, Tatooine, Balmorra.  Taxi rides are now quite a bit more fluid and uninterrupted.

- They seem to have improved the animation delay on Force Sweep; it delivers it stun in 0.5 seconds now rather than 1.  I don't crouch prior to jumping anymore, just a quick jump now, with the stun on landing.

- Planets seem to use about 10% less RAM.  Was using 1023 MB before per planet, now 930.  Republic Fleet station, 580.  Ship, 430.  Things load faster.  Game still pagefaults when I quit, but now for 20 seconds rather than a minute.

- GPU load is reduced, despite turning on AA.  Was running 70% load before, now 50%.  Temps are cooler as a result.  I'm using an NVIDIA GTX 460.

[Threash]

Yeah I don't think it's the turrets.  It's the fact that there's a huge valor multiplier when you control the zone and you're corpse camping + sending alts to feed people.  Regardless you don't get that many people sitting in one place to count their frame rate unless they're getting something out of it.

Maybe they didn't even need alts. This seems pretty good valor if the kills keep rolling like that.
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4026/screenshot2012011823380.jpg

It was actually a lot higher than that, 200 per kill.  That must be after diminishing returns kicked in.

[Lucas]

Official statement by the lead PvP Designer, Gabe Amatangelo:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1822494#edit1822494

[tmp]

- They seem to have improved the animation delay on Force Sweep; it delivers it stun in 0.5 seconds now rather than 1.  I don't crouch prior to jumping anymore, just a quick jump now, with the stun on landing.

Aww got all hopeful and went to check consular's Force Wave, but that seems unchanged.

Still, being able to knock champion-class droids out into lava or endless pits kinda makes up for it. And never gets old.

[Threash]

Three wins in a row, daily sitting at 1/3.  Fuck this game.

[Outlawedprod]

"Encourage" players to not pvp on Ilum lolz.  You don't even need the taxi to get there.
Awful hard to find the cancel sub buton for some reason http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=197768
/tinfoilhat

[Kageru]

That PvP thread is some high quality *mad*. I guess rushing a "please stay subscribed" patch carries risks of its own.

[Reg]

You and Simond really need your own special thread where you can regale each other with your insights based on never having actually played the game.

[Evildrider]

It wasn't even as awful an exploit as people are saying.  I will not miss the no rollback = no resub people at all.  I bet most of these people are bitching because they couldn't take advantage of it at the time.   

I personally saw all this and just did warzones all day long. 

[murdoc]

"Encourage" players to not pvp on Ilum lolz.  You don't even need the taxi to get there.
Awful hard to find the cancel sub buton for some reason http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=197768
/tinfoilhat

 

I looked shortly after reading that and the cancel subscription button is found quite easily.

[Outlawedprod]

"Encourage" players to not pvp on Ilum lolz.  You don't even need the taxi to get there.
Awful hard to find the cancel sub buton for some reason http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=197768
/tinfoilhat

 

I looked shortly after reading that and the cancel subscription button is found quite easily.

For some reason doesn't display on my version of Firefox.  I probably need to press cntrl-u twice.  I do like how the page says I have no active subscription when I do.  Their web guys must work on the game's UI.

[Kageru]

Apparently add /cancel after your user page and it works.

Some people identified a way to escape an spawn camp loop:  "the only way out of death loop from spawn camping is hit warzone match then let it kick you to fleet ". However bioware is on the ball and deleting threads and sending warnings that this is a bannable exploit. Even if it is now might not be the best time to be enforcing it against someone stuck in a spawn loop (source). Honestly, if it is like it sounds you couldn't write more face-palm worthy CS if you tried.

[Outlawedprod]

Grats everyone. We're all founders.  http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=198797

[Threash]

Did i read that right? they are rewarding everyone with a medal and a title, and the medal grants the title? so it's just a title?

[Merusk]

Grats everyone. We're all founders.  http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=198797

When do I get my shapeshifter?

 

[Kageru]

You only get the medal (which rewards the title) if you re-subscribe for a second month. Which is unusually transparent and desperate (and poorly timed). I wonder what their internal numbers are looking like.

[caladein]

My "transparent and desperate" bar is set at steeply discounted multi-month plans and this isn't anywhere near that.

[Shatter]

Its the new shame title, wear it with shame that you subbed a second month.  As much as I wanted to really enjoy this game they are making it really hard.

[Venkman]

Couple of Smuggler nerfs, the graphics situation did improve, but this was not the "we'll save people from cancelling" patch they really needed it to be.

The PvP stuff is lolz all the way down. Replace anything SWTOR with any other RPG MMO. Old ass story.

[Paelos]

I think slicing got a stealth buff.

Can't prove it yet, but I'm noticing a dramatic increase in credits at the top levels.

[Riggswolfe]

Damn you people are a bunch of negative Nancies. I'm quite enjoying the game. Whether I will continue to do so remains to be seen but it's not like some of you want to make it out to be.

[tmp]

I think slicing got a stealth buff.

Can't prove it yet, but I'm noticing a dramatic increase in credits at the top levels.

Maybe the patch was built off the pre-nerf code/data and things got re-applied. Wouldn't be the first

[eldaec]

You only get the medal (which rewards the title) if you re-subscribe for a second month. Which is unusually transparent and desperate (and poorly timed). I wonder what their internal numbers are looking like.

As the only major issue is in l50 pvp, which I suspect a large majority of players haven't touched and don't care about, I expect their numbers are just fine.