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 I played a little this past weekend but I've slowed way down on it.  Mostly just been logging in to do the daily masters quests.
 Started doing the red tier maps and they are just way too much effort for my mediocre build & gear.  I can clear most of the trash but the bosses just shit on me or slowly overwhelm me with adds (like the vault map one).  I did figure out the shaping and all that which seems like a cool system.   Just way too much time spent searching for gear & map trades than I care to do.
 
 I didn't have any issues with Merciless Izaro but I did it over leveled any my dps was much higher than it probably should have been.
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						| Nebu 
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 I didn't have any issues with Merciless Izaro but I did it over leveled any my dps was much higher than it probably should have been.
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     My level 71 doesn't even have 3k. Gears shite, but still.  In this case you might wanna focus your future skill points on some more +%life.  If you want some advice on talent planning I could take a glance at your skill tree, chars are linked in this format: "https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/ACCOUNTNAME/characters ". I didn't have any issues with Merciless Izaro but I did it over leveled any my dps was much higher than it probably should have been.
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 I can clear most of the trash but the bosses just shit on me or slowly overwhelm me with adds (like the vault map one).  I did figure out the shaping and all that which seems like a cool system.   Just way too much time spent searching for gear & map trades than I care to do.
 They buffed boss hp a fair bit with 3.0, plenty of people skip them since their drop rate weren't adapted accordingly.  If you have trouble getting specific maps in a tier, like all you got are Vault maps and you need an Estuary for atlas completion, you can use the Orb of Horizons  to reroll a map into another map of the same tier.  |  
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						| Nebu 
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 I'd also make the comment that rangers, particularly bow rangers, are pretty expensive to gear properly for endgame.  I play mostly solo self-found and rarely play bow characters until I've built up a good stash of items.  |  
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						| Ironwood 
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 If anyone sends me a friend request for a future guild invite and your IGN isn't your f13 name, let me know here.
 Yeah, that'd probably be me.  I'd have thought it would be obvious.  The timing, not the name.  Yes, it's not the usual name, but Ironwood was taken.     |  
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						| Azuredream 
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 Ahh, it was two f13ers. If it had been one I would have just accepted, but a pair seemed like people adding me to buy stuff I had listed on poe.trade or something. Logging in in a few minutes and I'll add you guys. |  
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 Anyone got a high level  Vorici on hand ?  I need two blue and one red sockets.
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						| Ironwood 
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 Chaps, the Guild Bank is stuffed with Uniques.  Feel free to help yourself.  This post Courtesy of Mr and Mrs Ironwood.
 I also managed to get Vorici to quite a high level without too much pain, but I had hugely overestimated how long collecting Orbs of Fusing actually takes.  Jeeeeesus.
 
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						| Draegan 
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 Ready to try this again but i don't want to fumble around with character builds until i get it right, anyone got a very detailed guide for a viable shadow build? edit: for the new league. |  
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 For anyone wanting to try out the new league but having char/build anexity, I suggest this sunder build.https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2032624 I went from 1-70 following it last weekend and found it to be extremely well suited for a first character in a new league. I'm currently sitting on about 15 chaos orbs having only bought the weapon. I feel more the ready to seriously start mapping and farming for additional characters. Its an easy build to play while watching a stream/listening to podcasts.  |  
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						| Nebu 
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 Anyone playing or wanting help on the new Abyssal league, wife and I are hitting it pretty hard right now, so feel free to level with us.  Also, if you're not in the guild, get an invite because I'm just going to start filling up the league Guild Bank with my cast off shite again.  
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						| Nebu 
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 Every season I get excited to play PoE again and decide that I'm going to try a few of my own builds and learn the game mechanics better.  After a week of creating bad build after bad build, I get discouraged and stop playing.  I need to break this cycle. 
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 Sunder build is solid.
 Anything that is a single target melee is hit right now with the new ancestral support gem.
 
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 I'm playing Detonate Dead + Cast While Channeling + Lightning Tendrils to trigger Elemental Equilibrium and using Advancing Fortress + Rathpith Globe + Stone of Lazhwar to work towards max block/spell block. Like all my builds it sounds janky as fuck but this one is crushing yellow maps and should be doing reds as soon as I get to them in my atlas. I assume this has more to do with DD being overpowered than anything else but maybe I just managed to not fuck a character up for once.
 Nebu, if you've never played a Flicker Strike build you owe it to yourself to try one. Quit playing SSF, level a Slayer with Sunder or whatever until you can equip an Oro's, toss in Flicker + EDWA + Chance to Ignite + Multistrike, get splash from your level 35 ascendancy, and then hold down the Flicker button until you win.
 
 If you're like me and just can't bring yourself to copy someone else's build, there are plenty of variations - the only requirement is a way to generate a bunch of Frenzy charges; this is usually done with Oro's, Terminus, or Raider + Blood Rage (the new Golden Rule jewel with The Red Trail should work too but good luck buying a pair). I did it with just Blood Rage and Ice Bite last league but having all my charges tied to kills made bossing miserable.
 
 If you're crapping out before you get to 67 just spend some currency on leveling items - a Goldrim and a decent two-hander will carry you through most of the game, and I'll try to remember to leave anything good I find in the guild stash.
 
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						| Ironwood 
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 Yeah SSF is just shit.  If you don't wanna do web trade ( and who can blame you ) just impose some self discipline.
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 Just got my first Abyss character to endgame; can someone explain what's going on with all this Elder stuff I hear about in chat?  |  
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 Just got my first Abyss character to endgame; can someone explain what's going on with all this Elder stuff I hear about in chat? 
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 This is what I'm talking about:https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Atlas_of_Worlds#Influenced_areas I can't find any more detail than that, and I know from reading chat that some people try to only run certain maps above a certain tier to influence their Atlas. I just don't know any details of the how or why. Also, are you in the f13 guild? If not, hit me up (IGN Rendakor or AsahinaRirica) and I'll invite you. |  
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 In the beginning there will be some sparkly background on some of your maps on the atlas indicating that the shaper is influencing it. Complete enough of these and an area of Elder influence will appear. You can expand the Elder area by completing Shaper influenced maps adjacent to the Elder area. Eventually the Elder area gets big enough and he and 4 of his guardians spawn in 5 different maps.
 The strategy I've heard of people doing is repeating this process until they get the Elder (or one of his Guardians I assume would also work) to spawn on a favourable map and then just never killing him. Normally the Elder area waxes and wanes a bit and you can't keep 100% uptime on the influence, but if Elder or one of his Guardians is in the map the influence is effectively permanent until you kill him. The reason influence is good is because it adds a whole bunch of extra monsters to the map and lets special items drop that can roll insanely powerful affixes. Downsides are that the boss is replaced so you miss out on the map boss drops, and never killing the Elder means you can't get his drops, some of which are very good.
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 In the beginning there will be some sparkly background on some of your maps on the atlas indicating that the shaper is influencing it. Complete enough of these and an area of Elder influence will appear. You can expand the Elder area by completing Shaper influenced maps adjacent to the Elder area. Eventually the Elder area gets big enough and he and 4 of his guardians spawn in 5 different maps.
 The strategy I've heard of people doing is repeating this process until they get the Elder (or one of his Guardians I assume would also work) to spawn on a favourable map and then just never killing him. Normally the Elder area waxes and wanes a bit and you can't keep 100% uptime on the influence, but if Elder or one of his Guardians is in the map the influence is effectively permanent until you kill him. The reason influence is good is because it adds a whole bunch of extra monsters to the map and lets special items drop that can roll insanely powerful affixes. Downsides are that the boss is replaced so you miss out on the map boss drops, and never killing the Elder means you can't get his drops, some of which are very good.
 
 Thanks for this.  I had no idea.   I did a bunch of shaper maps to get the shaper things that allow me to shape lower maps.  That's about all I know.   |  
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 Elder items are the bomb.  Six slot one handers and suchlike.
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 In the beginning there will be some sparkly background on some of your maps on the atlas indicating that the shaper is influencing it. Complete enough of these and an area of Elder influence will appear. You can expand the Elder area by completing Shaper influenced maps adjacent to the Elder area. Eventually the Elder area gets big enough and he and 4 of his guardians spawn in 5 different maps.
 The strategy I've heard of people doing is repeating this process until they get the Elder (or one of his Guardians I assume would also work) to spawn on a favourable map and then just never killing him. Normally the Elder area waxes and wanes a bit and you can't keep 100% uptime on the influence, but if Elder or one of his Guardians is in the map the influence is effectively permanent until you kill him. The reason influence is good is because it adds a whole bunch of extra monsters to the map and lets special items drop that can roll insanely powerful affixes. Downsides are that the boss is replaced so you miss out on the map boss drops, and never killing the Elder means you can't get his drops, some of which are very good.
 
 Alternatively you can pick one of the maps that are contested by both, Shaper and Elder, and just let it keep flipping between those two. Nets you items from both of them and makes getting that achievement where you have to kill voidportals and the Shaper thingies much easier and faster. This way you can kill the bosses all you want, the map will always be under someones influence. |  
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