Borderlands 2

[Yegolev]

They very well might.  I think the PC version was mostly fine, just the FOV was cocked-up, and whoever "developed the game for PC" obviously didn't have a chat with the team that did the UI.  I made it to the end of Playthrough 1 on PC before buying it on 360, never to look back.   I still might get this on PC in addition to 360, but that will depend on two things: 1) Quality of the PC port; 2) Uptake of the F13 crew.  So, I'll be checking in a few months from now to see how things are going in Console-Hater Land.

I'm not saying #1 was perfect, but I had a ton of fun and even if #2 was essentially a expansion (it's obviously not) I would enjoy it.  It was a bit slow at first, but getting a set of OK weapons by the end of Playthrough 1 helped (settling on a weapon type earlier would have been smart), then a decent set and the accompanying skills by the end of Playthrough 2, really helped.  I'm on Playthrough 2.5 and even though I'm still using the core set of weapons I had when I defeated the Space Vagina the second time, it's a satisfying challenge to know what weapons to use in what situations.  On 2.5 it does matter.

I'm expecting the weapon diversity to be better this time.  I believe they want the manufacturer to be more obvious, and based on some of the graphics (Maliwan) I think they are going to get a better feel, if not actual usage diversity.  Hearing about the emphasis on elemental damage by the Siren is interesting.

[schild]

I already preordered it on PC. I played through the original on... all 4 characters I think.

[Signe]

I have it pre-ordered (Mr. Spell says Pee-ordered.  WTHOLYFUCK is pee-ordered?) for the PC, but I'm still torn and wondering if I should go via PS3.  I don't have a 360.

[apocrypha]

I also played through #1 on all four characters, on the PS3.

PS3 had some UI issues too, just different ones to the PC port. Plus everyone else I knew who had it had it on PC, so I ended up with nobody to co-op with.

Therefore #2 will be bought on PC as soon as it's in a Steam sale - around Christmas at a guess.

[Lantyssa]

I have one slot left on a 4-pack if anyone still needs to pre-order.

[waffel]

Green Man Gaming has Borderlands 2 Pre-Order (PC Dowload) for $50 - 25% off voucher code GMG25-LABOR-DAYGO = $37.50

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/rpgs/borderlands-2-na/

[Fabricated]

My biggest beef with the first one wasn't the interface, which while being bad wasn't a deal breaker. The deal breaker was Gamespy's fucking godawful multiplayer shit.

I can't remember, they did ditch gamespy for this one right? Please tell me they ditched gamespy.

[Rendakor]

My only big issue with the UI was that you couldn't see all of an item's properties because the box was too small. 

[Surlyboi]

Preordered for the PC.

[Amaron]

I can't remember, they did ditch gamespy for this one right? Please tell me they ditched gamespy.

Yep they're using steam works.

[Ingmar]

Firmly wait-and-see for me, I didn't really end up liking the first one very much.

[Azazel]

I would buy it if they hadn't already flagged that they're going DLC-stpuid with it - so all sorts of crap from various sources - so I may as well wait until it's all collected in one place @ GOTY.

[Malakili]

I would buy it if they hadn't already flagged that they're going DLC-stpuid with it - so all sorts of crap from various sources - so I may as well wait until it's all collected in one place @ GOTY.

Given the amount of games I already have backed up, this is my plan for Borderlands 2.  Especially since Borderlands 1 was best with all the DLC anyway in my opinion.  Next year's Steam summer sale sounds about right.

[caladein]

Pre-ordered it and have the season pass sitting in my Steam inventory (as I can't apply it to my account yet for some reason). I am part of the problem, but the game looks great and I enjoyed the first one outside of its wonky multiplayer. But that's gone now so .

New Siren looks to be a bit more useful from a group perspective having played with the skill calculator, although I'll miss being able to get out of dodge like I could with the first one.

[Yegolev]

I agree, not sold on Siren.  Just today I was playing the original and thinking I'd be up shit creek if I couldn't disappear and heal myself.  I'll find out soon enough, unless I die from anticipation first.

[Signe]

Yeah, I'm hoping I don't have to play as a big old hairy man again.  She has tattoos!  I LOVE INK!  And superpowers!  I LOVE POWERS!  And I like disappearing, too. 

[Kitsune]

None of those classes are really doing it for me, so I'm pinning more of my hopes and dreams on the mechromancer since she's just a month away.  I'm definitely with you on the siren; Lilith seemed considerably awesomer than the new siren.  Not that new siren doesn't have impressive powers, but Lilith's get out of jail free button is flat out unbeatable.

[kildorn]

Old siren was just crazy survivable with a shield regen on kill and heal on stealth.

New siren seems like a tiny tactical nuke of doom from what I've see. New soldier actually seems a lot cooler than Roland. Zero is the one that just seems completely uninteresting to me this time around.

[Signe]

Shiny

[caladein]

PSA: Steam pre-load is now up and running. Also, if you want to add the Season Pass to your account you can do so now as well.

[Quinton]

The original game on PC makes me motion sick like nothing else.  It seems like a fun game, but I can't make it more then 30 minutes or so before I need to stop.  Have since upgraded the PC, the video card, etc, and tried again and it still really messes with my head.  Something about the way the game judders when I move the mouse, I think.

Anyone else run into this issue and maybe find a way to make things better?  I'm half-tempted to try the PS3 version just to see if it's any better.

[Trippy]

Possible fixes for the motion sickness issue:

* Override the FOV and make it wider

* Turn on VSYNC

* Turn off weapon bobbing

[Quinton]

I've been tinkering with various workarounds (including turning off mouse smoothing, etc).

What I notice is that if I change my view by moving with the WASD keys, everything is perfectly smooth, but if I pan my view by moving the mouse things are very shaky -- I can't look left/right without serious vertical bouncing around, etc.

EDIT:  Just confirmed that I have vsync and weapon bob off too.  I notice that turning with the left/right arrows is smooth and non-shaky as well.  I have a sneaking suspicion that a controller will also not have the problem, but will try that too.  Of course I much prefer keyboard+mouse for fps-ish stuff...

[tar]

You've probably already tried it, but... turn down mouse sensitivity? Might be that the mouse is just turning too fast.

[lamaros]

You've probably already tried it, but... turn down mouse sensitivity? Might be that the mouse is just turning too fast.

Nah it's just some game. I get the same. Fallout 3 and NV were fine, but Borderlands wasn't great, and Deux Ex: HR was a waste of $10 because it ruins me too.

No idea why some cause it and some don't, but it sucks plenty.

[Rasix]

Random games do this for me as well.  Both Half Life games I can barely play for 30 minutes before I start feeling ill.   Borderlands was fine though once I turned off weapon bob and widened the fov.  Ohh, and I don't spend much time in vehicles if I can avoid it.  

[Hawkbit]

Expensive loot week, bought Borderlands 2 and TL 2.  Ouch! 

[Hawkbit]

Replaying through BL1 to get myself geared up. 

1.  I remember going in on a four pack of BL1 with some f13 members back then.  Has it really been more than three years that I've been mucking around here?

2.  I had no achievements unlocked!!  Did they add them sometime post-launch?

3.  I had forgotten how FUN this game is.  Assault rifles are awesome.

[Yegolev]

Shiny

[Rendakor]

Just picked up my collector's edition; installing now and I still can't decide what class to play.

[Hawkbit]

It's awesome, as expected.  It's BL1, ramped up a few notches.  Not much has changed, and that's a very, very good thing. 

I'm very impressed with how well it runs on my 5yr old rig.  It actually looks better and runs better than BL1. 

Also, Handsome Jack:

[Quinton]

Very nice.  And not motion-sickness-inducing for me the way BL1 was.

EDIT:  I wish they had stolen the personal loot concept from Diablo 3.

[Trippy]

The PC install from disc is seriously fucked up. I've had to reboot 3 times so far in a vain attempt to get MS's fucked up installers to install every single MS framework  that's every been created, apparently, properly.

Edit: Reboot number 4 *sigh* It's stuck trying to install the fucking .NET framework.

Well at least I'm not the only one with this problem

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2940181

[Hawkbit]

For the .NET issues, hit "Restart Later" and it should let you into the game. 

Then, on your next boot, it will try to install it again, but just cancel out of everything and game will load.

[Quinton]

Yeah, this game may win the prize for most different versions of the msvc++ redistributable runtime whatsit I've ever seen a single piece of software try to install.  Also DirectX and .NET frameworks.  It did eventually work for me, but it certainly seems like something's not quite right.