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Reply #385 on: January 02, 2016, 05:07:44 AM


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Reply #386 on: January 02, 2016, 05:47:20 AM

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Reply #387 on: January 02, 2016, 11:37:23 AM

If i was him there would be no way in hell i would spend the last few years of my life miserably doing a chore i hate to keep a buncha nerds happy that are going to be disappointed anyways.  Let HBO finish the story, then just tell people "yup, that's how it ends".

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Reply #388 on: January 02, 2016, 12:37:26 PM

That is not how you get your ego stroked and the man is vanglorious in ways I haven't seen from authors in a long ass time.

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Reply #389 on: January 02, 2016, 02:27:23 PM

Or in other words, he is a writer.  why so serious?

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Reply #390 on: January 02, 2016, 03:11:43 PM

Haem, he would have made a fuckload more from book sales than from TV money. Getting the TV show means money because it is publicity for the books, much more than it means money for the rights.

He has sold a lot of books. He'd sold a lot before the series even came out on TV, but now?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #391 on: January 02, 2016, 04:02:34 PM

Really? I don't think I know anyone who watched the show than ran out and decided to start reading the books.

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Reply #392 on: January 02, 2016, 04:06:45 PM

The game of thrones books are the number one series I see people on the bus reading on a daily basis over the last year, along with the martian.  So yes, he's selling a TON more books now to people who probably would not have otherwise read it.
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Reply #393 on: January 02, 2016, 04:58:30 PM

Haem, he would have made a fuckload more from book sales than from TV money. Getting the TV show means money because it is publicity for the books, much more than it means money for the rights.

He has sold a lot of books. He'd sold a lot before the series even came out on TV, but now?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

I'm pretty sure the real money is from the merchandising that sprung up after the TV show hit.
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Reply #394 on: January 02, 2016, 07:48:59 PM

Oh yes, the book sales most certainly feed off of the TV show. But on a pound for pound basis, he's going to make more money from screenplays, royalties from DVD (since he's producing, I assume he's got his beak wet on the back end) and such than he will from selling the books. Book royalties are really really shit compared to other mediums, especially when you have to split them with publishers.

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Reply #395 on: January 02, 2016, 09:00:59 PM

Really? I don't think I know anyone who watched the show than ran out and decided to start reading the books.

I did this.

Apart from the running part.

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Reply #396 on: January 03, 2016, 01:37:21 AM

Oh yes, the book sales most certainly feed off of the TV show. But on a pound for pound basis, he's going to make more money from screenplays, royalties from DVD (since he's producing, I assume he's got his beak wet on the back end) and such than he will from selling the books. Book royalties are really really shit compared to other mediums, especially when you have to split them with publishers.

Depends entirely on his contract. I'd wager he has still made more from the books.

He was selling millions of them before the TV series even came out, and Forbes estimate that he sold 8 million books and took in $15 million in 2011 alone from book sales.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2012/08/09/women-on-the-rise-among-the-worlds-top-earnings-authors/

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Reply #397 on: January 03, 2016, 06:30:09 AM

So he made 1.5 million per book. That's a hell of a contract.

Article won't load on mobile so I can't see the details of how they figure that. The above is my, wtf numbers, reaction.

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Reply #398 on: January 03, 2016, 07:22:07 AM

No, he made about $2 per book sold.

Which isn't unusual at all.

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Reply #399 on: January 03, 2016, 07:55:00 AM

Just to nitpick what someone said. In Television, "Producer" is synonymous with writer (usually for an entire series and not just individual episodes) unlike in movies where the producer is the moneyman who gets earlier cuts of the profits.

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Reply #400 on: January 03, 2016, 08:35:00 AM

If i was him there would be no way in hell i would spend the last few years of my life miserably doing a chore i hate to keep a buncha nerds happy that are going to be disappointed anyways.  Let HBO finish the story, then just tell people "yup, that's how it ends".

I suspect there's a contract and fairly hefty advance with a publisher to consider.  As long as he at least pretends to work on the final bbok(s) he can probably avoid any legal hassles with them.
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Reply #401 on: January 03, 2016, 01:42:37 PM

No, he made about $2 per book sold.

Which isn't unusual at all.

Gah fuck early morning math.  How the hell did I come up with that one.

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Reply #402 on: January 03, 2016, 01:43:21 PM

You're an architect.   why so serious?

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Reply #403 on: January 03, 2016, 03:06:37 PM

In the meantime, if the tv ending sucks GRRM can jump out and say " Oh but the tv execs refused to show my true vision" but if the book ending sucks " Well I was rushed to  finish the series now that the tv show ended".

Basically lose lose. The tv show writing is definitely not good enough to end the series at the same series highs of season 1 but the books writing is getting to the point that its highly unlikely this will end in anything worth reading or waiting for. 

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Reply #404 on: January 03, 2016, 03:29:49 PM

No, he made about $2 per book sold.

Which isn't unusual at all.

$2 a book hardcover and I'd wager a $1-$1.50 a book for paperbacks, and that's probably a pretty favorable contract based on his previous copious amounts of work.

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Reply #405 on: January 03, 2016, 04:45:05 PM

You're an architect.   why so serious?

Which means I'm lucky I didn't think of it in 12s instead of base 10.  why so serious? It was the morning time on the shitter. I blame being half-awake with no coffee and 5 1/2 hours sleep.

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Reply #406 on: January 05, 2016, 12:36:23 PM

Yet another reason to adjust your body clock and do your pooping at work!

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Reply #407 on: January 05, 2016, 01:35:26 PM

Which means I'm lucky I didn't think of it in 12s instead of base 10.  why so serious?
Interesting, and here I thought only us CS majors did silly shit like that!  Though next question, not actually knowing much of the field, why?
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Reply #408 on: January 05, 2016, 02:18:44 PM

Because 5 feet and 8 feet are 60 and 96 inches not 50 and 90.  You draw in inches as an Architect, not feet like a civil engineer.

And never Metric, because Fuck a 90cm door instead of a 3' door.  awesome, for real

Which is interesting because while it's only ~1/2" off of a 'standard' door, all other dimensions are similarly off.  So I've found you get a vague sense of unease as you pick it up. (The human eye can detect as little as 1/8" of an inch difference without realizing it.) You also seem to run into corners for a few hours when traversing a fully metric building instead of an english units one because of the difference. Not that I've been in one more than a few times, but those were my observations.
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Reply #409 on: January 05, 2016, 02:28:09 PM

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Which is interesting because while it's only ~1/2" and inch off of a 'standard' door, all other dimensions are similarly off.  So I've found you get a vague sense of unease as you pick it up. (The human eye can detect as little as 1/8" of an inch difference without realizing it.) You also seem to run into corners for a few hours when traversing a fully metric building instead of an english units one because of the difference. Not that I've been in one more than a few times, but those were my observations.
Which seems like a great friggin reason *to* do metric.  Set up cameras and watch the guests fall all over the place. 

If you ever build stairs, amuse yourself by making each stair 1/8" too tall....

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Reply #410 on: January 05, 2016, 02:46:29 PM

That would be as advisable as a Doctor removing an arm "for the Lulz" or a Lawyer zelously sending incriminating evidence to the Prosecution. We've got professional licensure and ethics standards to uphold, even if we price ourselves like bargin basement whores making 1/5th the money of a contractor. Architect is a profession run by business people who'd rather be artists with all the logic and acumen you'd expect from that. awesome, for real

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Reply #411 on: January 05, 2016, 05:58:23 PM

If architects don't make enough money: 1.) There isn't enough financial incentive for someone to bother suing you, and 2.) YOu're not paying enough in professional fees for your profession to censure you properly.  You're golden.  Commence with the unethical, dangerous and childish pranks. 

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Further proof that Italians have suspect taste in games.


Reply #412 on: January 08, 2016, 08:29:37 AM

sorry for the off-topic, but this might serve as a gentle reminder  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?


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Reply #413 on: April 25, 2018, 12:24:10 PM


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Reply #414 on: April 25, 2018, 12:50:11 PM

While I appreciate you updating this thread to inform me of GRRM's update, I also want to do extreme violence to both of you for this update.

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Reply #415 on: April 25, 2018, 12:59:06 PM

Fuck him for not finishing the goddamn series. And fuck me for probably buying this shit anyway.

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Reply #416 on: April 25, 2018, 01:21:19 PM

nice, ya'll get a shitarillion

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Reply #417 on: April 25, 2018, 02:47:41 PM

I was totally expecting an update to this thread to be his obituary.
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Reply #418 on: April 25, 2018, 08:44:47 PM

Fuck GRRM; the HBO series will be my ending since he'll die long before he finishes any books.
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Reply #419 on: April 25, 2018, 09:14:05 PM

He should really just hand the series over to Sanderson now, instead of making everybody wait till he's in the grave and his publisher does it.  Since if he's written 1,000 pages of pure bullshit instead of finishing the god damn book he was supposed to finish years ago, he obviously has no intention of working on this shit ever again.

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