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Reply #315 on: January 19, 2012, 12:14:01 PM

Logo Reboot



I didn't like it at first glance but it quickly grew on me with the variations they show of the logo.

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Reply #316 on: January 19, 2012, 12:33:32 PM

Link to DC's blog post that show the images properly on iOS devices unlike the fucked up page above Ohhhhh, I see.

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2012/01/19/new-brand-identity/
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Reply #317 on: January 19, 2012, 12:47:27 PM

For some reason I keep seeing a condom and a wrapper.
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Reply #318 on: January 19, 2012, 01:38:08 PM

I didn't like it at first as well, but I do like the treatments they do with the C being used as something iconic, like the Green Lantern effect.

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Reply #319 on: January 19, 2012, 02:06:38 PM

The page curl is like some bad 1990s graphics design flashback.

"Hey guys did you know if you do a blend in Photoshop like this you can get a cool 3D page curl effect?" "Wow that's cool, let's use that everywhere!" "Yeah!"
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Reply #320 on: January 19, 2012, 02:16:00 PM

Hey, everybody gets one use of page curl in their design lives. DC just used up theirs.

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Reply #321 on: January 23, 2012, 10:14:25 AM

You curled it, now the resell value is ruined.

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Reply #322 on: January 23, 2012, 12:32:15 PM

The logo looks dumb in a vacuum, but I like how it looks on the actual books.

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Reply #323 on: January 23, 2012, 03:15:17 PM

Their logo should be a DC in a plastic sleeve protector. 

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Reply #324 on: January 26, 2012, 09:26:30 PM

Hm. 5 or 10 years before they revert to the "classic" logo again? With much fanfare.

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Reply #325 on: January 28, 2012, 09:53:35 AM

That new logo just makes me think of the Warhol cover art for The Velvet Underground and Nico album. But not in a good way.

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Reply #326 on: January 28, 2012, 10:32:05 AM

Banana or Penis?

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Reply #327 on: January 28, 2012, 10:26:20 PM

Banana or Penis?

Oh, the number of times I've been asked THAT question...

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Reply #328 on: February 08, 2012, 03:33:46 PM

Sales figures for January.  DC took all of the top 10 slots, and it has been pointed out that even Aquaman managed to beat out the sales of any Marvel comic for the month.  Sales for DC's New 52 stuff is slowing dropping off though which is part of the reason DC is dropping six tiles in April and launching six new ones in May.
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Reply #329 on: February 08, 2012, 03:52:51 PM

What's weird is that the new titles seem to me to reproduce some of the odd decision-making in the first launch, some of which has indeed turned out to be commercially dubious. Some of the worst performing titles so far are the ones that were given to the usual suspects like JT Krul. Or bizarro retread decisons like hiring Liefeld. But rather than consistently conclude that to get new readers, you get new creators, they're still giving the old unsuccessful hacks more and more chances--even though some of the surprise performers are the ones coming from new talents, or from established people with very fresh takes on the characters or genre.
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Reply #330 on: February 08, 2012, 04:12:11 PM

I thought the oddest one was:

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Worlds’ Finest, by Paul Levitz, with George Perez and Kevin Maguire, in which Huntress and Power Girl struggle to find their way back to Earth 2.  The two artists will work on alternating story arcs.

That sounds like the opposite of being new reader friendly when you've got two characters that have typically had convoluted backstories attempting to get back to Earth 2.  But yeah, new books by JT Krul and Howard Mackie seem like horrible ideas as well.  James Robinson has seen better days as well.
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Reply #331 on: February 08, 2012, 04:19:59 PM

Yeah, I get doing the main Earth 2 book to get the Justice Society back in focus. But I had expected that would be something more like The Invaders when Roy Thomas did it--set in a more nostalgic, golden-agey World War 2, or maybe a bit like Robinson's Golden Age, some kind of deconstruction of same. To then hive off Power Girl and the Huntress and put them on "Earth 1", well, it's high-concept fanservice, about 100% the opposite of the alleged reason for doing this whole thing in the first place. If you really want Earth 2, make a place where you tell the stories you can't tell in your "main" universe, the way Marvel has approached their Ultimates line. Only in this case, the more upbeat, kid-friendly kinds of stories. The Justice Society relaunch where Parobeck was the artist was a great example of that approach. That's a lot easier to understand than something that continuity-porns the whole thing up.
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Reply #332 on: February 18, 2012, 08:48:18 PM

Yesterday I went to my old comic book shop that I first shopped in back around '85.  It's still there and the guy is still there.  I bought the first six issues of Action Comics.  Not bad, the reboot is strange, with a 22yr old 'Superman' in blue jeans running around.  I don't much care for Rags Morales art, but enjoyed Andy Kubert on #5 and #6.  Overall I enjoyed the story.

The guy apologized for charging me $24 for six comics but did let me roll 4d6;  I rolled 13 and got a free comic so that was a nice bit of friendly marketing.  The salad days of comics are long gone, so glad he's kept his store open and in the same location for over 30 years.

His name is John and he's getting more of my business.
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Reply #333 on: March 04, 2012, 09:09:39 PM

Sigh. Advance word on the Earth 2 comics is that Earth 2 is going to be darker and more dystopic than the 'mainstream' DCU. This is the Earth 2 that's home to the Justice Society. On Earth 2, the latest statements suggest, Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman will all be "sadder" and will kill when necessary.

Look, I'm sure there's room to do the Justice Lords and for that matter, the Crime Syndicate. But would it kill them to make the Justice Society's world more optimistic and Golden-Agey? What's the point of going all grimdark on the original Justice Society characters when the mainstream DCU is already fairly grimdark?
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Reply #334 on: March 05, 2012, 01:38:47 PM

Wait, the fucking Authority is in the regular DC Universe and they want the Justice Society to be DARKER than that? ... the fuck? swamp poop

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Reply #335 on: March 05, 2012, 01:46:51 PM

So originally I thought the New 52 was to compete with Marvel's Ultimate universe but now Earth 2 is going Ultimate Ultimate?

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Reply #336 on: March 05, 2012, 07:09:48 PM

Does any of this effect my Young Justice cartoon?


If the answer is no, then I do not give a shit.  why so serious?

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Reply #337 on: March 09, 2012, 03:34:26 AM

Does any of this effect my Young Justice cartoon?


If the answer is no, then I do not give a shit.  why so serious?

Duh, hello, Megan! DC makes decent animated series, while Marvel makes better live action movie. Comic books can just burn for now.

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Reply #338 on: March 09, 2012, 03:42:22 AM

That's sorta what's always baffled/amused me. I've been eating up DC cartoons since Batman The Animated Series, that lead to Batman/Superman that lead to JL that lead to JLU, with a stop over on Teen Titans and Batman Brave and the Bold and now with Young Justice.


Yet I can't give two shits about the actual comics.

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Reply #339 on: June 01, 2012, 04:15:07 PM




hahaha, nailed it

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Reply #340 on: June 03, 2012, 01:40:31 AM

Making the Green Lantern of Earth-2 gay is just... well, silly. First, it's not really that big a goddamn deal anyway. Second, it means his entire continuity up to this point is absolutely null and void, since he's had a son who was gay, and a daughter who was straight, and a wife. They've pretty much killed that continuity altogether. If they really wanted to make it a news splash, they could have done a ton of other characters that would have made more sense. Shit, making Batman gay would have made more sense and been bigger news.

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Reply #341 on: June 03, 2012, 07:55:45 AM

The whole Earth-2 thing is terrible so far anyway. They took a world where the only point of having it is to be an interesting mirror of their main characters via nostalgic invocations of their earliest versions in the comics and updated it so...it's more or less the world their characters, only a bit darker in certain ways. What's the point, other than maintaining some trademarks?

I guess if you really wanted to maintain that Alan Scott was gay all along in the old continuity, you could almost do it. In the actual Golden Age comics, he:

had a weird flirtation with an extremely campy villainness but had no regular girlfriend or squeeze
hung around with a really weird male buddy/friend (Doiby Dickles)

Then in the Silver Age Earth-2 revival he:

had no real love interest, was portrayed as a hard-working media tycoon who somewhat reluctantly served as Green Lantern when necessary (the All-Star book did this particularly)
reconnected with his weird old campy villainness who turned out to have been working as his secretary for years and kind of loving him in silence
found out he had two kids via a marriage to a *different* dual-personality villainness, a marriage that happened after a weird brief romance where the villainess was trying to go straight in a new civilian disguise and had a stalkerrific interest in Green Lantern that she'd been obsessing about while held prisoner by the Amazons on Paradise Island; the villainness went nutso right after they had sex for the first time, burned down the cabin they were staying in and faked her own death
then he remarried his old villainness secretary-stalker who was now a dowdy older lady; he had a magic thing happen and he got all buffed up and young while she stayed old

Yeah, comics everybody! Anyway, there's room in there for "Actually I was teh gay all along" and it might even give him a new connection to his gay son. In the old continuity. But now? This is utterly pointless. They don't get any credit for this. It's really no different than saying, "We created a new character, Token Gay Avenger Man!"
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Reply #342 on: June 03, 2012, 05:16:00 PM

I think they made GL gay because he's a big name who's not going to get another movie anytime soon.

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Reply #343 on: June 03, 2012, 08:56:54 PM

Except they didn't make the current GL gay; they made the original version of Green Lantern gay, but the last time I saw him used that character was called Sentinel (I think). Alan Scott was the "first" GL, but he isn't one of the fan favourites like Hal Jordan.

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Reply #344 on: August 03, 2012, 01:54:22 PM

Except they didn't make the current GL gay; they made the original version of Green Lantern gay, but the last time I saw him used that character was called Sentinel (I think). Alan Scott was the "first" GL, but he isn't one of the fan favourites like Hal Jordan.

DC chooses the one character that needs a wiki page to look up for there "bold" new move.

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Reply #345 on: August 14, 2012, 02:56:34 PM

Dark Knight Returns Animated Movie


I'd like this.
Peter Weller as Batman.  ACK!
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Reply #346 on: August 14, 2012, 05:35:42 PM

With all the panning of the comic + voice-over in that video I thought it was going to be one of those motion comics. Glad to see that it's actually animated but it needs Kevin Conroy.

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Reply #347 on: August 15, 2012, 10:00:03 AM

Actually it might be the one Batman that shouldn't be voiced by Conroy. Though he did pretty well as Old Man Wayne in Batman Beyond.

Marvel, by the way, is now doing its own slightly less drastic "New 52"--relaunching all of its books as "Marvel Now" with new creative teams and some pretty serious revamps. As with the New 52, I don't think either company really knows how to do books that decisively break with continuity porn fanservice. If they'd care to pay attention, they might note that Brian K. Vaughn's new book "Saga" is selling incredibly well, even though it's about entirely original characters in a completely non-superheroic genre mode and has no continuity porn anywhere.
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Reply #348 on: August 15, 2012, 08:39:38 PM

Saga is rather good.

Granted, I am also digging the Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe series.

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Reply #349 on: August 28, 2012, 02:44:45 PM

The churn continues over at DC--I think they're really going to regret making 52 the magic number. Should be a big cut of books coming soon, as a few new ones have been announced, including a second Justice League title that looks to me to be effectively a recreation of the old "Detroit" Justice League. (Vibe is being revived! Can't wait to see what *his* grim and gritty persona will be).

Also, Superman and Wonder Woman are officially fucking each other.
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