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I'm also not a McNabb hater. He had a couple of very, very good years. Now he's  |
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Nevermore
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Marino was dazzling and put up phenomenal numbers. His lack of SB shiny, it can be argued, could be due to poor Dolphin defenses during that period (that were just a shadow of the 70's legacy Killer B unit that they tried to emulate way too long, just as Noll and Steelers faded in the later 80s.
FYI, the Killer B defenses where from the early 80s. The Dolphins had the #1 defense statistically the year they lost the SB to the Redskins. The great 70s defenses where the 'No Name' defenses. |
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Ingmar
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Sure there is. Marino was the highest statistically productive passer of all time for a while and merits discussion in the all time greats. He was on shitty teams a good deal of the time. I just don't have much interest in losers and a guy of his talent level should have been able to bring home some trophy.
That makes no sense for HOF criteria in a team sport. He's very clearly at least in the top 5 QBs of all time. It isn't like he was the guy holding them back. |
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Marino was dazzling and put up phenomenal numbers. His lack of SB shiny, it can be argued, could be due to poor Dolphin defenses during that period (that were just a shadow of the 70's legacy Killer B unit that they tried to emulate way too long, just as Noll and Steelers faded in the later 80s.
FYI, the Killer B defenses where from the early 80s. The Dolphins had the #1 defense statistically the year they lost the SB to the Redskins. The great 70s defenses where the 'No Name' defenses. /thanks, you are correct, I was confusing "No Name" with Killer B! But they (defensive unit) fell off quickly after that SB Redskin loss (which was a year before Marino rookie season). I mean, even their 84 SB loss (to another Pittsburgh born QB playing for SF), they gave up 28 points in a championship game to a team QB by Mark Malone  |
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Nevermore
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Oh yeah, the defense fell off a cliff in the mid 80s. As did the running game. Even Elway didn't win a superbowl until the Broncos found a good running game.
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That makes no sense for HOF criteria in a team sport. He's very clearly at least in the top 5 QBs of all time. It isn't like he was the guy holding them back.
I'm not going to argue that Marino shouldn't be in the HOF and never said he shouldn't be. I just don't like him that much as a QB. I would rather have Tom Brady all day long over Marino. McNabb should definitely not be inducted. |
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Oh I agree, but because of career/peak numbers reasons, not because of championships.
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Nebu
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Should we talk about Barry Sanders next?
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Should we talk about Barry Sanders next?
 I was such a huge fan and when he left, I was devastated. |
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Nevermore
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Well, looks like Manning is out until at least November.
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Malakili
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Well, looks like Manning is out until at least November.
I think he'll be done for the season. By the time he is ready to play, I suspect they are going to be out of it, and they won't bother bringing him back for a 3-4 games that don't mean anything. |
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It is my fault- I killed him. I kept him in my keeper league.
I think there is a pretty good chance his career is over.
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01101010
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It is my fault- I killed him. I kept him in my keeper league.
I think there is a pretty good chance his career is over.
Wouldn't go THAT far. He might not ever be the Manning of old, but hell... who is when they round the bend in age. Either way, I see Peyton becoming a huge success as a player-turned-coach and will net a ring or two that way as well. The man is too football smart not to take a step into coaching after his playing days. But back to the real issue, Houston best send you a thank you gift basket.  |
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Well, this thing doesn't seem to be getting any better for him and he is getting up there. I wouldn't be surprised to see this force him to hang it up.
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HaemishM
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If it's a nerve issue in his neck, that's definitely a potential career-ender. That kind of stuff is worse than a hamstring for being hard as hell to track.
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PACKERS 42 - SAINTS 34
WHAT A FUCKING GAME!
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Great way to start the season, there was a lot of fireworks. I'd say the Chargers are in agony watching Sproles' performance.
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caladein
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He had a career day on returns but that just means he's gonna have 2-3 fair catches next week to get himself back on pace.
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Malakili
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Only got to watch the second half, but it was very exciting.
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ghost
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We may have just watched the real superbowl right there.
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We may have just watched the real superbowl right there.
You obviously didn't look at my picks |
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Loved the game. Sproles' role is interesting and will drive defenses nuts. That one play up the middle was impressive. His threat will keep safeties honest.
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Draegan
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McNabb was always a good QB never a great one. He is no where near a HOF QB.
Also, fantastic game last night! Happy the season is now here, wooo!
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HaemishM
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Loved the game. Sproles' role is interesting and will drive defenses nuts. That one play up the middle was impressive. His threat will keep safeties honest.
There's a reason I picked up Sproles in both my fantasy leagues. The guy is every bit the player Bush is and he's been more durable than Bush so far. Returns, catching out the backfield and the occasional run, he's going to be the guy you have to account for in the defensive gameplan. There are few players I ever seen who have such smooth, insane acceleration as him. |
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His point production in fantasy will vary a lot, though.
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I have never played WoW.
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We may have just watched the real superbowl right there.
You obviously didn't look at my picks I just did. You're wrong. |
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Paelos
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The Cardinals are the obvious Super Bowl champions! THE PACKERS ARE A FLUKE!
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Nebu
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Watching the Steelers get dismantled has made my entire week. It's not that I dislike the Steelers, it's that I dislike their fans. Not having to listen to them for a week at work is like a gift.
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Bills are coming through for me today in a huge way. Good job Stevie Johnson!
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Bills are coming through for me today in a huge way. Good job Stevie Johnson!
Ex Kentucky player. He's tough. |
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49ers and Seahawks are putting on the most god-awful display of football of the week.
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01101010
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Jeezus, the Colts are bad, but I didn't think they'd be this bad, even with Collins.
And wtf ATL?
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49ers and Seahawks are putting on the most god-awful display of football of the week.
So fucking bad. God this season is already dragging and it is barely .5 games old. |
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I'm glad I grabbed Akers. He's going to get a ton of work on the 49ers.
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Wow Ginn returns TWO for TD's! Poor Pete Carrol, he looks positively befuddled. Titans look not quite ready for prime time, Atl FTL, Giants are as soft as a baby's ass, and the Lions, that's right the Lions, won!
I just knew they were doomed when Boomer "Matt Millen is a genius compared to me" Esiason picked the Lions as a playoff team.
As a Lions fan, I can't even dare to hope.
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Inc Eli face!  |
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