The Dark Knight Rises

[Evil Elvis]

The 6-minute IMAX preview was leaked a few days ago.   Seemed interesting, but it's difficult to understand anything Bane's saying.

[Merusk]

Yeah, he'd be more menacing if he didn't sound like my local drive-through order speaker.

[Tannhauser]

Just re-watched the trailer twice.  Even knowing the lines it was still garbled. 

[MuffinMan]

The Bane voice is still not as bad as Batman's in these movies. Although, I think Bats sounded much worse in Begins than Dark Knight.

[stu]

Just wait until they start debating each other mid-fight hehe

Batman: HragharbelgarbargelGotham

Bane: BarghlebargelbarglSuffer

But really, I'm looking forward to this one.

[eldaec]

The class war thing sounds like a high risk concept - and the trailer generally seemed meh - but hey Nolan Batman not going to argue.

[UnSub]

The Bane voice is still not as bad as Batman's in these movies. Although, I think Bats sounded much worse in Begins than Dark Knight.

I never got the voice complaints.

Bale indicated that he had a lot of problem in getting the Batman voice for "Begins" - he coughed a lot after takes - but by "Dark Knight" it was easy.

[Ragnoros]

Put me in the SQUEE! crowd. TDK is one of my favorite movies ever. However I also think the Nolan/Bale Batman voice is stupid. It sounds like he is recovering from strep throat, not menacing.

[Soln]

this will be superb

[HaemishM]

Put me in the SQUEE! crowd. TDK is one of my favorite movies ever. However I also think the Nolan/Bale Batman voice is stupid. It sounds like he is recovering from strep throat, not menacing.

I think they actually should have taken a page from Frank Miller's book on the voice - use some software to do some voice modulation to make it scarier rather than relying on scratchy-throat warbling. Batman shouldn't sound like Bruce Wayne with laryngitis - he should sound like a goddamn nightmare given form.

But even so, Dark Knight was still one of my all time favorite movies ever.

[DLRiley]

Put me in the SQUEE! crowd. TDK is one of my favorite movies ever. However I also think the Nolan/Bale Batman voice is stupid. It sounds like he is recovering from strep throat, not menacing.

I think they actually should have taken a page from Frank Miller's book on the voice - use some software to do some voice modulation to make it scarier rather than relying on scratchy-throat warbling. Batman shouldn't sound like Bruce Wayne with laryngitis - he should sound like a goddamn nightmare given form.

But even so, Dark Knight was still one of my all time favorite movies ever.

I find that ridicilous because batman spends half his time saving people anyway. Can you imagine getting mugged and then some giant black thing comes from the darkness beats up your mugger and goes "are you ok!?!?" in his best son of satan voice? I'd think you run into open traffic.

[Mrbloodworth]

Thats, like, a whole theme in the batman series. Hero or Vigilante criminal.

[DLRiley]

Thats, like, a whole theme in the batman series. Hero or Vigilante criminal.

Expressed in actions, he isn't the "dark knight" because he strep-throat.

[Ratman_tf]

Thats, like, a whole theme in the batman series. Hero or Vigilante criminal.

Expressed in actions, he isn't the "dark knight" because he strep-throat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcackzHbBT0

[Sheepherder]

I think they actually should have taken a page from Frank Miller's book on the voice - use some software to do some voice modulation to make it scarier rather than relying on scratchy-throat warbling. Batman shouldn't sound like Bruce Wayne with laryngitis - he should sound like a goddamn nightmare given form.

Can you imagine getting mugged and then some giant black thing comes from the darkness beats up your mugger and goes "are you ok!?!?" in his best son of satan voice? I'd think you run into open traffic.

Thats, like, a whole theme in the batman series. Hero or Vigilante criminal.

Expressed in actions, he isn't the "dark knight" because he strep-throat.

 

[DraconianOne]

New trailer

Potential spoilers possibly - although imo most interesting of the trailers so far.

[K9]

The fixed Bane's voice, good stuff.

[Lakov_Sanite]

...I hope the movie won't sound like that, bane's voice sounds completely dubbed over the entire soundtrack. It's REALLY offputting.

[HaemishM]

I thought that trailer kicked ass.

[Tannhauser]

Yeah, that looked really good.  Thank God they fixed Mumbles' voice.  Still more excited for The Avengers though. 

[Hawkbit]

Time for another jaunt through Arkham City.

[Venkman]

Trailer was awesome. I love how each of the three show things in different orders. I still don't know (and don't WANT to know!) for how much of the movie Batman is down for the count.

Don't really mind his voice. I realize it's off-putting to lore. But jeezus, there's so many different branches to the lore that even as a non-comic guy, about the only commonality I've seen over three decades of paying attention is that some rich kid who witnessed his parents death went all vigilante, with a costume and an honor code.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcackzHbBT0

I should love that show, but the goddamned 70s-era laugh track drives me insane.

[Fabricated]

I'm kinda miffed by the whole Catwoman/Bane thing myself. The first two dark knight movies go through various pains to explain why Batman has better-than-bleeding-edge gear and literal discussion of batsuit ergonomics and then welp here's this chick who somehow hides her identity with an eye mask and fights on stiletto heels. Also bane's mask is hilarious.

I can kinda get why they had to go with someone like bane since the whole "super schemey badguy" thing was done perfectly by the Joker so you need someone who's a physical challenge to Batman (especially since he kicked the dog shit out of literally everyone who tried to go hand-to-hand with him last movie)...but Bane was never really one of my favorite Batman villains.

[Mrbloodworth]

I always thought he was kind of silly.

[sickrubik]

He's silly in a lot of forms, but he has the chance of being interesting if used correctly, which it appears they may be pulling off in this movie.

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Bane_(New_Earth) -- Possible spoilers, of course.

[Khaldun]

His origin story wasn't bad, except for the fucking awful Mexican wrestler outfit. I liked the idea of a smart planner who was also a physical threat. His initial arc was also fairly good. After that, horrible story after horrible story, because they really couldn't figure out what the guy's motivation was after his first battle with Batman and defeat by Azrael-Batman. His only other good stories were in the Secret Six, where Gail Simone totally got what made him work as a character.

He's the rare case of a villain that the Dini-Timm Animated Series could not figure out a smart take on. (The Penguin is the other: I'm not sure there *is* a smart take on the Penguin.)

[MuffinMan]

I can kinda get why they had to go with someone like bane since the whole "super schemey badguy" thing was done perfectly by the Joker so you need someone who's a physical challenge to Batman (especially since he kicked the dog shit out of literally everyone who tried to go hand-to-hand with him last movie)...but Bane was never really one of my favorite Batman villains.

I think he literally kicked the dog shit out of some dogs, too.

[K9]

I think comic writers struggle to conceive a character who is simultaneously smart, sane and amoral.

[Sheepherder]

The obvious solution would be to have Batman fight some shade of himself.

[Khaldun]

There was a fairly silly character in Batman comics like that, a guy whose criminal parents were shot by a cop while he watched, and who vowed to make the world safe for criminality, training intensely for his mission, etc.

But I'm thinking Nolan's Bane is basically this character: Batman's equal physically, mentally and in determination.

[Tannhauser]

Was that 'Manbat'?

[Khaldun]

Naw, a guy called "The Wraith".

Manbat is a scientist who self-experiments (don't they all?) with a serum and turns himself into a half-bat, half-man, can't really control himself once he's transformed.

[UnSub]

There was a fairly silly character in Batman comics like that, a guy whose criminal parents were shot by a cop while he watched, and who vowed to make the world safe for criminality, training intensely for his mission, etc.

But I'm thinking Nolan's Bane is basically this character: Batman's equal physically, mentally and in determination.

Heh, I thought you were talking about Prometheus, who is pretty similar.

The problem with Bane is that a lot of writers use him just as someone who is very strong, not someone who is very good at planning.

He should work very well in Nolan's more grounded version of Batman, since it looks like he's running a mercenary outfit. As for Catwoman, we really haven't seen enough about her to see if she's a catburglar who avoids confrontation rather than the world-class fighter she's shown in a lot of comics.

[Merusk]

He should work very well in Nolan's more grounded version of Batman, since it looks like he's running a mercenary outfit.

I thought he was the new lead for Ra's al Ghoul's group since he's shown talking to Bruce unmasked and says Bruce has to be punished.

[SurfD]

He should work very well in Nolan's more grounded version of Batman, since it looks like he's running a mercenary outfit.

I thought he was the new lead for Ra's al Ghoul's group since he's shown talking to Bruce unmasked and says Bruce has to be punished.

Could be. Though in the comics, Bane has the credit for being one of the few villians ever who were smart enough to figure out Batman's secret identity completely on their own.