Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

[raydeen]

Damn. Somebody knows me pretty well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9eGtyqz4gY

[Lucas]

First trailer with in-game footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSRtYpNRoN0

[Sky]

Oh mah achin' pc.

As much as I think the franchise has been weakening over the years...the viking in me says buy buy buy.

[JWIV]

Damn it.   

I hated Oblivion, but this is calling my name, probably because they used the god damn Morrowind theme, and I loved that game.

[Hawkbit]

Yeah, if it is anything like that they're likely getting both a PC and PS3 sale from me.  It just *looks* like something I'm going to play for a long time.

[Stormwaltz]

What little I've seen of the man-vs.-dragon fights has been pretty goddamned epic. Better than they have any right to be, given that they can fly and you can't. (Or at least you can't in what they've revealed so far.)

[Bunk]

I'd still like to see a closeup of more of the people, see if they have gotten away from populating the entire nation with characters that make Peter Lorre look atractive. That being said, this trailer still deserves at least a reserved *squee*.

[NiX]

The combat in Elder Scrolls game always makes me sad.

Somehow I think the way they depict the dragon fight won't come close to the actual experience.

[Tebonas]

Do want.

No Viking roots here, but I have a flashback to the days of yore in Everfrost! 

[LK]

I missed being able to explore other cultures in Tamriel. Arena was kinda great like that. But it's more economical to focus on one region.

[Ingmar]

I'm sure I will buy this just to be disappointed in it as always. Here's hoping they learned enough lessons about what they did right in FO3 vs. Morrowind/Oblivion that I will be wrong about that.

[Sheepherder]

It's always one step forward two back with Bethesda.

My inner viking isn't painting his face with woad, donning his berserkr, and chewing his shield yet.

[Paelos]

I'm intrigued. I have a sudden need for fur and wenches.

[Sheepherder]

 

[Rendakor]

Pedobear prefers his wenches without fur.

[Sheepherder]

We don't have a yiff emote.

I closed my browser just after I posted.  Then the entendre hit.  Well played sir, well played.

[Murgos]

Pedobear prefers his wenches without fur.

Bethsoft has claimed that this edition will have children in it.  Combine that with the known fact that the first mod to any Bethsoft game is a full nudity mod and   is appropriate.

edit:  I literally can't wait for the shitstorm that comes up once a youtube video of someone killing a naked child in the game hits the news.  You'll see that footage 40 times a day for a week.

[Sheepherder]

Furry naked children.  This will end well.

[Paelos]

Furry naked children.  This will end well.

Furry naked children?

[WindupAtheist]

I never got into the series before 3, so I went and downloaded Daggerfall since it's free. Once you get past the Doom graphics and configure the interface into something useful, this is actually pretty awesome.

[NiX]

I never got into the series before 3, so I went and downloaded Daggerfall since it's free. Once you get past the Doom graphics and configure the interface into something useful, this is actually pretty awesome.

Radicalthon time?

[WindupAtheist]

Nah, it's not really that type of game. I'm just a solo dude running around fighting in dungeons to get loot, doing randomly-generated quests. There's no Imoen for me to stab in the face, No Drizzt for me to mug, no narrative for me to subvert. Baldur's Gate was a really unique game in that it presented a complex story but still let you do whatever the fuck you wanted. It's a combination that not even Bioware does anymore. KOTOR might have let me be a Sith Lord, but if it had as much freedom as BG, I would have chopped Carth's head off five seconds after meeting him and replaced him with a player-created character written as a necrophiliac. Just because.

But you know, it's okay. Not every game has to have a huge story. Whatever story there is in Daggerfall? I'm not looking for it. I'm having a lot of fun being a random dude looking for fortune and glory in a vast world that doesn't give a crap about him. It's a nice change.

[Sheepherder]

I never got into the series before 3, so I went and downloaded Daggerfall since it's free. Once you get past the Doom graphics and configure the interface into something useful, this is actually pretty awesome.

Radicalthon time?

Can't have a party in Daggerfall, and can't mod one in.  Morrowind and Oblivion, on the other hand...

[K9]

I really tend to find party members to be a nuisance rather than something I enjoy having, I'll be glad to play through Skyrim solo.

[Vaiti]

The combat in Elder Scrolls game always makes me sad.

Somehow I think the way they depict the dragon fight won't come close to the actual experience.

This a million times.

I do love how they handle bow and arrow use, but swordplay always felt weak and chaotic to me. Just walking around exploring things and talking to people in Oblivion was always pretty nifty, and I in fact ended up just doing that more than fighting, almost ignoring the fighting aspect altogether with the random sniping of some woodland creatures.

edit: to fix my hamfisted typing

[Ironwood]

Oblivion sucked the sweat off a dead mans balls.  This trailer looks exactly like Oblivion.

No.

Thanks.

[NowhereMan]

I enjoyed Oblivion but not really that much as a game. The fun in it for me was just running around the world and seeing random crap, some of the side quests had cool stories and I enjoyed customising my character with spells and magic items (the RPG equivalent of playing dress up). The mechanics really never drew me (or I imagine anyone) in, whether I'll enjoy this game is going to come down to whether they've implemented more enjoyable mechanics or managed to add in an awesome story. Without either of those then there's probably not much in this that I haven't already done and frankly the story is not likely to be particularly strong based on track record and the trailer.

[Sheepherder]

I really tend to find party members to be a nuisance rather than something I enjoy having, I'll be glad to play through Skyrim solo.

If you're not in the least bit interested about balance or sanity, you can set NPC companions flagged as essential.  In fact, I'd say that Oblivion / Skyrim (probably) makes one hell of a game for Badicalthons due to the essential flag, the fact that the AI responds to friendly fire with drops in disposition, that drops in disposition can result in spontaneous combat, and the fact that the AI's ability to aim a fireball or arrow is absolutely abysmal.

[tgr]

Oblivion sucked the sweat off a dead mans balls.  This trailer looks exactly like Oblivion.

No.

Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxSbetnaD0A

Doesn't look like things have necessarily changed that much beyond the fact that graphics are a bit better now than then. vOv

[eldaec]

Oblivion sucked the sweat off a dead mans balls.  This trailer looks exactly like Oblivion.

No.

Thanks.

This.

Also, where are people getting the 'OMFG DRAGON BATTLES' shit from? Hidden under all the bad camera angles, flapping wings, and manic cutting all I see is a bunch of  generic_nonconnecting_sword_swing and generic_flame_breath.

[Ironwood]

Oblivion sucked the sweat off a dead mans balls.  This trailer looks exactly like Oblivion.

No.

Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxSbetnaD0A

Doesn't look like things have necessarily changed that much beyond the fact that graphics are a bit better now than then. vOv

You're technically correct, while at the same time not right.

Comparing any of the other games they've done (which, yes, has always been The Same Damn Game) to Oblivion is to miss out on what made up to Morrowind great and made Oblivion suck donkeys.  Indeed, the very fact that they constantly pursue graphics while eroding gameplay and leaving other things entirely unchanged from Arena is part of the problem here.

I have more sympathy for Arena being 'Omg, you swing a sword and decrease a healthbar' way back when than I do Skyrim 'Omg, you swing a sword and decrease a healthbar'.  This should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.  Therefore, I don't mind pointing it out to you.

Also.  Console.

That's all I'm saying.

[tgr]

Comparing any of the other games they've done (which, yes, has always been The Same Damn Game) to Oblivion is to miss out on what made up to Morrowind great and made Oblivion suck donkeys.  Indeed, the very fact that they constantly pursue graphics while eroding gameplay and leaving other things entirely unchanged from Arena is part of the problem here.

I have more sympathy for Arena being 'Omg, you swing a sword and decrease a healthbar' way back when than I do Skyrim 'Omg, you swing a sword and decrease a healthbar'.

And all I'm really seeing from that trailer is that we'll be able to fight with a sword from the first perspective, and that the graphics aren't going to suck too badly. I couldn't even decide if it was recorded on a console, and I certainly couldn't see if they had an autobalancing problem like oblivion had. Hell, it could easily have been Two Worlds 2 we were seeing here.

But what would they have to do to make you go "ooh, this looks interesting", then? Because last time I played one of these games (admittedly a very very long time ago), the story was more interesting to me than the actual fighting mechanics.

This should be obvious to anyone with half a brain.  Therefore, I don't mind pointing it out to you.

Classy.

[Paelos]

This just in, Scots are dicks.

I liked Oblivion except for the stupid portal popping. Someone needs to pull the head Elder Scrolls guy aside and tell him that vaunted main story you love so much? Yeah most people consider that an annoying chore that gets in the way of the actual fun.

[Tebonas]

I hope they learned from Fallout and Skyrim will rock.

I liked the sandbox part of Oblivion, only the main quest, the UI, the leveling system and the mob scaling were retarded. The rest, though... 

[Rendakor]

I liked Oblivion, a lot; much more than Morrowind which I never finished. My two big beefs with Oblivion were the retarded mob scaling and the repetitive gate closing, which I ended up just training through to the keystone while spamming heals on myself after the third or fourth one.

Despite the hate here, Oblivion was massively popular and for many (console gamers particularly) it was their first RPG; a whole generation of gamers who had previously only played Madden and Halo picked it up because it played like an FPS. It helped that Oblivion launched on the 360 which was (is?) the market leading console, unlike Morrowind on the original Xbox.