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This is all sounding rather horrid and unfun.
The choreography on the fighting is often very good, and it's an interesting visualization of comic book tropes. But the fighting in Metropolis comes close at times to Miracleman vs. Kid Miracleman rather than Superman II only without making the casualties explicit. |
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So its made 125 mil and IM3 has made 400 million. Not sure the Man of Steel can beat the Man of Iron. Glad it's doing well though.
Suspect the biggest problem is timing. I'm all cinema'd out on mediocre nerd pandering right now. This, plus it doesn't look entertaining. The marketing makes it look less fun than the terrible Green Lantern movie. Marvel movies do well because they're beat-em-up blockbusters. If they showed more of the fights you all are talking about, they'd probably be doing better. Instead it looks like Superman goes Emo and we have a 2 hour slog about the implications of a god living among men and how he feels out of place and We The People would treat him in the modern America. A thinker of a movie. Thinkers never do well at the modern box office. |
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Instead it looks like Superman goes Emo and we have a 2 hour slog about the implications of a god living among men and how he feels out of place and We The People would treat him in the modern America. A thinker of a movie. Thinkers never do well at the modern box office.
The movie is nothing like this. |
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Well then isn't that just an EPIC Marketing fail.
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Yeah, thoughtful it ain't.
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When I first got out of the movie I loved it. Cavill made a really impressive Superman and the fight scenes carried a weight to them I wanted.
But as I thought more about it, it really started to sour and the point that many people here have made is what bothered me the most.
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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On DC comics tropes and the ending.
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murdoc
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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needlessly put Lois in peril so Superman could fly in and save her.
Isn't that every super man plot ever? |
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murdoc
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Ironwood, it really is a good movie, despite my protestations. It's worth seeing. |
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So its made 125 mil and IM3 has made 400 million. Not sure the Man of Steel can beat the Man of Iron. Glad it's doing well though.
Suspect the biggest problem is timing. I'm all cinema'd out on mediocre nerd pandering right now. Apples to oranges. IM3 has made 400m total, not just opening weekend. |
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IM3 had a bigger opening weekend too. Superman did have the biggest opening for a June movie though (not accounting for ticket place inflation, blah blah blah).
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So its made 125 mil and IM3 has made 400 million. Not sure the Man of Steel can beat the Man of Iron. Glad it's doing well though.
Suspect the biggest problem is timing. I'm all cinema'd out on mediocre nerd pandering right now. Apples to oranges. IM3 has made 400m total, not just opening weekend. It's still 50 mil shy of IM3's opening weekend tho. |
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How come no one cares about the many folks who died in the Transformers movie? Why didn't Optimus Prime show remorse and/or try to save them instead of fighting?
Also, I wasn't comparing both movies opening weekends. I was showing where MoS was in relation to IM3's total. Total.
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How come no one cares about the many folks who died in the Transformers movie? Why didn't Optimus Prime show remorse and/or try to save them instead of fighting?
Doesn't everyone agree that the Transformers movie was a giant crapfest of brainless special effects? |
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How come no one cares about the many folks who died in the Transformers movie? Why didn't Optimus Prime show remorse and/or try to save them instead of fighting?
Also, I wasn't comparing both movies opening weekends. I was showing where MoS was in relation to IM3's total. Total.
1) Because Michael Bay. Tyranny of low expectations and all that. Nobody expects anything like narrative coherence from Bay. Asking anything in his films to make sense is stupid. 2) Because Optimus Prime isn't Superman. He's a good guy but he doesn't have the really, really long track record that Superman has, especially re: civilians. 3) Because genre. Superhero comics have a special relationship to the idea of the long-underwear crowd doing everything they can to save innocents. |
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Fuck this movie.
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Hey guys, we found a planet where we have super powers! awesome, let's make it just like our old planet where we were just regular dudes. I wasn't bothered by Superman not seeming to worry about the random destruction, he had zero time to worry. Every time he paused for a second or two he got hit, those guys had super speed and weren't letting up. Also haven't we learned by now, NO CAPES, i swear the only purpose of the thing was for someone to swing him around by it. |
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How come no one cares about the many folks who died in the Transformers movie? Why didn't Optimus Prime show remorse and/or try to save them instead of fighting?
Also, I wasn't comparing both movies opening weekends. I was showing where MoS was in relation to IM3's total. Total.
1) Because Michael Bay. Tyranny of low expectations and all that. Nobody expects anything like narrative coherence from Bay. Asking anything in his films to make sense is stupid. 2) Because Optimus Prime isn't Superman. He's a good guy but he doesn't have the really, really long track record that Superman has, especially re: civilians. 3) Because genre. Superhero comics have a special relationship to the idea of the long-underwear crowd doing everything they can to save innocents. In 2 when Optimus went all Hannibal Lecter and sliced up The Fallen while shouting "Give me your FACE!" I did a silent "Whyyy?!?!?" for Peter Cullen, and then imagined myself stabbing Michael Bay in the face over and over shouting "Who's face now?" Yeah, the live action Transformers movies are crap, and it's starting to sound like MoS is following in it's footsteps. I'll wait for cable to watch this thing. |
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Apparently Nolan and Goyer had a big argument about the ending, Snyder took Goyer's side and then the head honchos at DC came in and agreed with Snyder and Goyer, so Nolan shrugged and said, "Eh, it's your movie, do what you want."
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Well I have to say, that was defiantly worth 12 dollars for a 7pm showing. My GF that loved FF6 couldn't stand Man of Steel... I just now thought about that....
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Khaldun
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I think they're skipping out on kryptonite per se. But Superman does learn that re-establishing the conditions of Krypton makes him not very superpowered, and it looks to me as if it's possible for someone like a bald industrialist/scientist to recreate those conditions on a local scale...
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How come no one cares about the many folks who died in the Transformers movie? Why didn't Optimus Prime show remorse and/or try to save them instead of fighting?
Because nobody cares about Transformers movies? I wasn't aware we had a responsibility to comment on every terrible two-bit movie produced by some worthless hack. |
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I think its a pathetic nip pick to, considering the nature of the villains superman is fighting, expect that the situation wouldn't come at tremendous sacrifices. I mean sure, superman didn't show visible concern for all the destruction around him but considering he had to contend with several people in a fist fight he could hardly hold back in....
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I think you all are missing an important part of this. Superman II. It is the perfect loose end to set up for the first part of the next movie; to reflect on all the shit he has done and all the innocent lives lost - have him withdraw into his own "solitude" and brood about it while Lex starts taking over Metropolis under the guise of rebuilding, hell he can also start fracturing Supe's image with this.
That is if they are going to do a Nolan-esque treatment of Superman for a short series of these.
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I think you all are missing an important part of this. Superman II. It is the perfect loose end to set up for the first part of the next movie; to reflect on all the shit he has done and all the innocent lives lost - have him withdraw into his own "solitude" and brood about it while Lex starts taking over Metropolis under the guise of rebuilding, hell he can also start fracturing Supe's image with this.
... ending with Lex Luthor in power armour fighting Superman. |
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Super-strength armor conveniently discarded...
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Lakov_Sanite
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Where is it said the armor gives super strength? Plus supes has been sucking up uv rays for 33 years so training or not of course he is stronger.
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