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Reply #315 on: September 21, 2012, 10:53:13 AM

Regarding targeting:  Control click is your friend.  It keeps you in your current position unless you actually click on a mob, in which case it will move if you need to get in range to attack it.  Makes the game much more playable.
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Reply #316 on: September 21, 2012, 11:07:41 AM

Playing Demo :

Oh, wow, so good.

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Reply #317 on: September 21, 2012, 11:27:22 AM

It's impossible for me to not compare it to my experience in D3, and I'm not sure an argument would be valid for which is the better game.  However, I am having more fun with TL2 than I did D3, and I think the reasons come down to three things.

1.  The world feels more open and less on rails than D3.
2.  The skill trees are (for the time being) relatively permanent, which creates an attachment to the decisions I've made about my character.
3.  I'm getting upgrades from the game, not the Auction House. 

I understand the 'impact' complaints, though my 2hd engineer is decent. 
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Reply #318 on: September 21, 2012, 11:29:12 AM

Yet to find an enchanter.

I found 2 so far (only lvl 11).  One in an outside area and one inside a dungeon.  Theres mobs around the enchanters so you have to clear them out first before you can make use of the enchanters.
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Reply #319 on: September 21, 2012, 01:35:53 PM

Just in case some of you is still undecided, you can now download the demo, either from Steam or the official  website.

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Reply #320 on: September 21, 2012, 01:50:20 PM

I have only found one golden key but 3 golden chests that I cannot open. What's the deal with the golden keys? Rare drop off purple mobs? I've killed every mob in the zones I've seen the chests in.
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Reply #321 on: September 21, 2012, 01:50:57 PM

Just in case some of you is still undecided, you can now download the demo, either from Steam or the official  website.

I promised my wife I wouldn't buy any more games after GW2 and Borderlands 2, you bastard.
It's $20, cheapskate. :P

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Reply #322 on: September 21, 2012, 02:00:54 PM

I have only found one golden key but 3 golden chests that I cannot open. What's the deal with the golden keys? Rare drop off purple mobs? I've killed every mob in the zones I've seen the chests in.

Not rare in my experience. Every chest I've found has had a key drop somewhere in the vicinity of it.  In some cases I've even had the key before I found the chest.  You've got to have missed picking something up or there was a hidden turn somewhere you missed. 

I'll note I'm playing on "Normal" and don't know if the rules are different on other difficulties.

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Reply #323 on: September 21, 2012, 02:03:49 PM

I have only found one golden key but 3 golden chests that I cannot open. What's the deal with the golden keys? Rare drop off purple mobs? I've killed every mob in the zones I've seen the chests in.

They only drop from bird/mosquito looking enemies called Bitter Sprites. If you mouse-over them, you will see "drops golden key" listed under their attributes. In my experience they are usually found on the same map as the chest.

It's $20, cheapskate. :P

$15 if you organize or join a 4-pack purchase.
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Reply #324 on: September 21, 2012, 02:44:28 PM

Get TL2 from Gamefly for $15.99 with coupon code. Only pain is you have to install their client to get the key. Then you just activate on Steam and never use the Gamefly client again.
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Reply #325 on: September 21, 2012, 04:11:31 PM

I came. I clicked on things. I made them die.

Playing engineer and this is some good shit.

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Reply #326 on: September 21, 2012, 05:01:34 PM

What stats do engineers use? All of them?

On my embermage, I'm putting points into mostly focus, some dex and a little vit.

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Reply #327 on: September 21, 2012, 05:08:49 PM

I seem to remember the stats being weird in the first one.   Focus would raise magic damage stats on your weapons for instance.
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Reply #328 on: September 21, 2012, 05:13:35 PM

Everyone uses all of them. Torchlight doesn't use blizzard primary stat bullshit. But as far as I can see strength and vitality will be most important for an engineer.

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Reply #329 on: September 21, 2012, 08:38:16 PM

Yep, all stats are important with some just being less important than others. Well; an embermage doesn't need strength much if they're not meleeing at all outside of what's needed to equip some stuff but other than that they're all alright.

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Reply #330 on: September 21, 2012, 11:47:24 PM

Account password reset emails finally went out, I got 12 of them in my mail overnight.  awesome, for real

Or do you want the health bars to be visible all the time, not just on mouseover?

Yep, health bars above their heads, in the game, all the time. Baffles me that there isn't an option to enable this.

For those complaining about combat feedback and not knowing whether attacks hit, try changing Combat Text to Normal from the default (sparse).

Done that, still feels unresponsive. I've worked out what it is - it's the combat animations. The actual attack happens some frames into the animation, so there's a delay between hitting the button and actually firing/hitting/casting. Abilities should either have a casting time (and therefore a casting bar) or actually be instant. The way it is now - short cast times on everything but no indication of the progress of that cast time - feels slow, unresponsive and clunky.

Also... you can only respec the last 3 skill points you spent. No other option to respec at all. This is retarded.

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Reply #331 on: September 22, 2012, 12:03:53 AM

2.  The skill trees are (for the time being) relatively permanent, which creates an attachment to the decisions I've made about my character.

Also... you can only respec the last 3 skill points you spent. No other option to respec at all. This is retarded.

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Reply #332 on: September 22, 2012, 02:58:10 AM

Games! DRILLING AND MANLINESS

Lol  awesome, for real

That's why I always favour giving people the choice - we all have different likes & dislikes, we all play games differently. Still, as with most of my other quibbles I'm sure it won't be long until I can install a respec mod. :)

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Reply #333 on: September 22, 2012, 04:14:19 AM

Ran out of demo.  Found 4 set items and 3 uniques.  Lots of fun was had and things were blown up.

Now to make another char.

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Reply #334 on: September 22, 2012, 06:43:22 AM

Ran out of demo.  Found 4 set items and 3 uniques.  Lots of fun was had and things were blown up.

Now to make another char.


Or you could spend $20 and continue on.
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Reply #335 on: September 22, 2012, 07:04:33 AM

They don't have $ where he comes from.
He has to go out into the hills, sing to the sheep, gather their enchanted wool, and bring it back to his village.
Then the weavers there will spin the wool into cloth, which is then pressed, dried, and inked until they have Scottish money.

Then he robs a bank to pay for the game  awesome, for real

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Reply #336 on: September 22, 2012, 07:08:29 AM

Then he robs a bank to pay for skag

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Reply #337 on: September 22, 2012, 09:11:50 AM

Regarding loot, I either have spectacularly bad luck with my Outlander or there is something somewhat borked with the loot table - I simply never get any weapon drops I can either use or are upgrades. I'm still using the first quest reward pistol as a main hand weapon. At level 12. I just fought Mordrox and it took me 10 minutes and about 25 potions to whittle him and his fucking army down.

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Reply #338 on: September 22, 2012, 09:17:41 AM

I'm pretty sure every weapon is useable at some level, even if you don't meet the stat requirements.

At level 20, I've gotten 14 uniques.  Long story short, your luck sucks and never go to Vegas.

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Reply #339 on: September 22, 2012, 09:31:00 AM

On the other hand, my Berserker and Engineer chars are going to be pimped.

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Reply #340 on: September 22, 2012, 09:31:28 AM

I just found a whole section that I somehow didn't go through in Act I. Either that or I was sleep-playing through it. (The northern icy part out of the first town). Now I know why I'm too low for where I thought was the next place to go.

Three questions:

1) Can you replay zones/dungeons?

2) Is the loot much better in veteran mode?

3) How many characters can a person make?
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Reply #341 on: September 22, 2012, 09:52:16 AM

Regarding loot, I either have spectacularly bad luck with my Outlander or there is something somewhat borked with the loot table - I simply never get any weapon drops I can either use or are upgrades. I'm still using the first quest reward pistol as a main hand weapon. At level 12. I just fought Mordrox and it took me 10 minutes and about 25 potions to whittle him and his fucking army down.
Check the vendors, who can actually have good stuff in this game.

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Reply #342 on: September 22, 2012, 10:55:16 AM

I was about to suggest the same thing. All of my armor and jewelry are drops but I bought both my weapons from the blacksmith.
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Reply #343 on: September 22, 2012, 10:57:54 AM

I'm in Zeryphesh, level 28. I went from Ossyean Wastes (level 23/24) to the Salt Barrens (level 29/30). Am I missing something?

Is there a way to reset the map in Ossyean Wastes? I joined an online game and maybe that screwed it up?
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Reply #344 on: September 22, 2012, 11:03:52 AM

I'm in Zeryphesh, level 28. I went from Ossyean Wastes (level 23/24) to the Salt Barrens (level 29/30). Am I missing something?

Is there a way to reset the map in Ossyean Wastes? I joined an online game and maybe that screwed it up?

I found a way. I joined a public game, and then quit. Then went back to playing single player. Map was reset.
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Reply #345 on: September 22, 2012, 11:24:19 AM

I'm enjoying the Berserker far more than the other chaps.  The Engineer is fun, but loses a lot when shielded and both the Outlander and Embermage just don't work for me.

I think the whole 'stand at range' thing just isn't how I play my ARPGs.

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Reply #346 on: September 22, 2012, 11:50:45 AM

I'm playing a build I like to call the 'lazy 'zerker' which is basically only ever using fist weapons like the one you start with and taking nothing but passive abilities.  The only skill I even use is the lightning aoe buff on melee.  Playing on veteran it's a surprisingly solid build. It might be boring for some but for me I just run around shouting "berserker barrage!" and it's awesome.

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Reply #347 on: September 22, 2012, 12:14:51 PM

This game is much more pleasing to me than I expected by a large margin.

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Reply #348 on: September 22, 2012, 01:18:01 PM

I'm in Zeryphesh, level 28. I went from Ossyean Wastes (level 23/24) to the Salt Barrens (level 29/30). Am I missing something?

Is there a way to reset the map in Ossyean Wastes? I joined an online game and maybe that screwed it up?
There's like 3-4 minidungeons in the area and 2-3 overland quest things in the wastes. I think there's a command to reseed your areas too.

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Reply #349 on: September 22, 2012, 01:38:27 PM

A couple of questions:  Can you un-socket gems?  Is there a giant map I'm missing?
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