iPad

[Engels]

In other news, it turns out that the iPad, once having obtained an IP address hour ago (for example), wakes from sleep in the same network and forcibly keeps the IP address instead of renewing DHCP. This has caused some havok in situations where the DHCP server has reassigned the IP address to another machine.

How is a DHCP renew after sleep not just basic network card coding at Apple?

[Ingmar]

[tgr]

<iPad> I am king of the jungle, I am the solution to everything. That IP is mine, begone heathen IP squatter. It's mine!
* iPad uses the elbows

[Sheepherder]

It just works.

[Mattemeo]

It just about works.

FIFY

[UnSub]

I don't think that brand names will be relevant for the majority of customers going forward. Nobody I know buys a special brand PC. They go to the shop and pick the cheapest one that is bundled with Windows and Office and can run most games, the same with feature phones. I don't know anybody except geeks like me that base their choice on brand names.

Dell?

We can get technical about what exactly a 'brand' of PC might be, but most people don't care at the micro level (of Pentium vs AMD or Nvidia vs ATI and so on). They buy a PC assembled under some sort of name and take it as 'good enough' to get the job done. If not, they send it back to the store and ask for a new one.

And when it comes down to it, 'Apple' just falls into that category too for a lot of people when it comes to computers (and often a computer that they have difficulty adapting to if they are used to Windows-based systems).

Brands serve as a shorthand for making decisions about what to buy. Computers aren't exempt from that.

[Quinton]

Also... Phones are jewelry.  Phones are a fashion statement.  Phones are self-expression.  Scoff if you will, but people love to personalize and accessorize.  I'm not even talking about features that people want that iphone lacks -- I'm just talking about different industrial design.  Moto sold an *absurd* number of RAZRs and if you ask anybody who loved a RAZR it sure wasn't the software that sold those phones ^^

Apple is only ever going to give you one design, maybe two.  I can totally see them holding on to a nice, lucrative high-end slice of the market (like they do with laptops), but the thought that in a few years it's all going to be Apple is laughable.

There are a *lot* of Android phones out there and a *lot* of Android phones being sold ("over 60k/day" is the most recent number we've mentioned publicly) and we're still just getting started.  A year ago Steve couldn't be bothered to even mention us.  Now he is busy trashing us publicly ("android is for porn!" okay whatever Steve) and suing one of the successful manufacturers of Android based smartphones.  I dunno about you, but me, I think el jobso might be worried. 

If you think price is the sole differentiator in smartphones today (or likely to be in the near future), you are quite simply not paying attention to the market.

[Lantyssa]

Also... Phones are jewelry.  Phones are a fashion statement.  Phones are self-expression.  Scoff if you will, but people love to personalize and accessorize.  I'm not even talking about features that people want that iphone lacks -- I'm just talking about different industrial design.  Moto sold an *absurd* number of RAZRs and if you ask anybody who loved a RAZR it sure wasn't the software that sold those phones ^^

Metallic lavender RAZR.

I'll need a new battery pack soon, but I have no desire to dump it.

Lavender, bitches.  Where's my lavender iPhone, huh?  Oh, that's right.  I have the choice of Turtleneck Black or Codemonkey-Needs-Sun White.

[Tebonas]

Now you are just talking crazy. Code monkeys don't need sun. There are vitamin supplements for that! 

[Merusk]

Lavender, bitches.  Where's my lavender iPhone, huh?  Oh, that's right.  I have the choice of Turtleneck Black or Codemonkey-Needs-Sun White.

It took them how long to add colors to the iPod?  We all know this by now;  Don't buy Apple products until g3 or later.

[Righ]

Also... Phones are jewelry. 

Most jewellery doesn't end up as landfilll after a few months. Phones are disposable ornamentation for the masses. Flash your tits are Mardi Gras and you get a free phone.

[Margalis]

A console title might sell for $60 but how much of that money do you think is actually revenue for the developer?

Popcap probably makes more money selling Plants vs, Zombies for the iPhone at $2,99 than they would by selling it as an X-Box title for $60.

Uh no.

[NiX]

Most jewellery doesn't end up as landfilll after a few months. Phones are disposable ornamentation for the masses. Flash your tits are Mardi Gras and you get a free phone.

Months? I don't know many people who are on monthly change cycles or even yearly. Right now I sit at about 3 years between phone changes. People must lack lots of self control.

[Draegan]

I'm about 1 year or so for a new phone.  Right now I'm sitting on a G1 that schild made me buy with his frothing and now I'm waiting to move back to Verizon to grab an Incredible. 

I'm about 1.5 years into my Tmobile contract and this has been the longest I've had a single phone for.

Are they doing buy one get one's for the Incredible any time soon?  I'll get one for my fiancee too I think.

[tgr]

Behold the magnificence that is my phone.

Yeah, I don't use it much, it's mostly along for the ride in case something happens while I'm driving or the like. I keep wanting to buy a new phone, but I never actually find the real reason to spend the money on one.

The keys on the one I have is atrocious, but I was given this one by my employer in 2005 I think it was, and it hasn't died yet. Even survived being washed once. Only thing I've had to change is the battery, and it just does its job as a phone.

[Sky]

Most jewellery doesn't end up as landfilll after a few months.

Do people still throw out phones? We have a recycling bin and it gets used pretty heavily.

I was actually about to jump on the whole cellphone bandwagon ( ) but 450 talk + unlimited web for $70/mo is a lot of dough for a phone imo. Is there a way to get a better deal (I was looking at verizon/new droid)?

[Lantyssa]

Adobe to Apple:  It'd be nice if we could get along, but you're pretty much irrelevant.

[Righ]

Most jewellery doesn't end up as landfilll after a few months.

Do people still throw out phones? We have a recycling bin and it gets used pretty heavily.

Around 1% of cell phones discarded worldwide make it to a recycling company. The rest are landfill.

[Tebonas]

Funny, I read that blurb by Adobe as "We are still important, see?"

Really, both sides don't come of smelling like roses here. The fact that Adobe has to work together with everybody so that Flash works on their devices is not that much of an endorsement. Open standard that ain't.

[Teleku]

Most jewellery doesn't end up as landfilll after a few months.

Do people still throw out phones? We have a recycling bin and it gets used pretty heavily.

Around 1% of cell phones discarded worldwide make it to a recycling company. The rest are landfill.

While on the topic, there are a variety of of causes you can donate your phone to as well, rather than just throwing it in the recycle bin.  Such as:  http://hopephones.org/

[Segoris]

Just saw that the iPad has sold over 1 million units in the U.S. in just the first month. The report from MSNBC basically states that this is over 2x, almost 3x, faster then the original iPhone reached it's 1 million mark.

While on the topic, there are a variety of of causes you can donate your phone to as well, rather than just throwing it in the recycle bin.  Such as:  http://hopephones.org/

That's a very cool organization, thanks for that link. In addition, whenever you get a new phone, ask your carrier if they have a recycle program. As an example, a few years back I used to sell phones for Cingular Wireless, right before AT&T bought them, and all phones that were turned in were refurbished and given to victims of domestic violence and a lot of single mother families in poor areas with high crime rates. The phone was only good for dialing 911. That was all the phone did, but that is better then it sitting in a garbage dump or some drawer/box somewhere.

[Lantyssa]

Really, both sides don't come of smelling like roses here. The fact that Adobe has to work together with everybody so that Flash works on their devices is not that much of an endorsement. Open standard that ain't.

Your interpretation is that of the jaded observer's.  I was paraphrasing for them.  They can both take an oil bath in the Gulf were it up to me.

[Ginaz]

Also... Phones are jewelry.  Phones are a fashion statement.  Phones are self-expression.  Scoff if you will, but people love to personalize and accessorize.  I'm not even talking about features that people want that iphone lacks -- I'm just talking about different industrial design.  Moto sold an *absurd* number of RAZRs and if you ask anybody who loved a RAZR it sure wasn't the software that sold those phones ^^

I was listening to the news on the radio last week where they cited a study/survey that found women find men with iPhones more attractive.  I shit you not, thats what they said.  Apparently these women they interviewed felt a man with an iPhone was more intelligent and succesful.  I wonder what the demographics for that was?  Women between the ages of 18 and 20?  I guess if you compare a man with an iPhone to one using the phone Steve and Doug Butabi used in Night at the Roxybury then I can maybe see it.  New marketing slogan for the iPhone: Chick magnet!

[Ingmar]

I suppose at the very least it indicates they can afford an expensive phone and contract. 

[Mattemeo]

Just saw that the iPad has sold over 1 million units in the U.S. in just the first month. The report from MSNBC basically states that this is over 2x, almost 3x, faster then the original iPhone reached it's 1 million mark.

The difference is going to be the considerably steeper drop-off point the iPad faces. The iPhone didn't suffer nearly as much tech scorn since it was, y'know, inherently useful, and both the wifi and 3G variations of the iPad have faced public scrutiny over connectivity issues. Right now, people are having to invent things for the iPad to do besides act like an uncomfortably large, feature-retarded iPhone.

[bhodi]

I was listening to the news on the radio last week where they cited a study/survey that found women find men with iPhones more attractive.  I shit you not, thats what they said.  Apparently these women they interviewed felt a man with an iPhone was more intelligent and succesful.  I wonder what the demographics for that was? 

Survey is more like it, and it was something like 15 people. The entire thing was pretty much completely made up.

[Samwise]

Has anyone else been seeing these iPad billboards all over the place and wondering why they all appear to be levitating?

[Mattemeo]

I swear to the gods, lately, it seems the powers that be at Apple wake up each and every morning and ask each other 'what can we do to ruin our friendly public image some more today?'

They've just forced an apology from Ellen DeGeneres for poking fun at the iPhone in a spoof ad on her show. I just... I mean... wow.

The sheer level of butthurt at Apple must be reaching the point of prolapse. I don't even really know where to post this sort of stuff anymore, I mean there's plenty of gnashing of teeth at Apple in this thread as-is, but it's kind of walking all over the original purpose of it. We need some sort of 'Apple are collectively suffering from hydrocephalus' thread or something. Because this mad shit is happening on a fucking daily basis right now.

[Nerf]

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/04/02/ipad-the-destroyer-19-things-it-will-kill/

Lawl

[Ingmar]

TV killed off radio? Really?

[Prospero]

Video killed the radio star.

[Teleku]

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/04/02/ipad-the-destroyer-19-things-it-will-kill/

Lawl

[UnSub]

Dilger's reach exceeded his grasp on that one. He's assuming flawless distribution of the iPad for everyone everywhere and that Apple won't just release the next generation of iPads (or something) that screws over its current set of users.

[MahrinSkel]

The iPad is going to deliver the "paperless office"?  Kill off hand-held game systems?  Forever discredit everyone who doubts Jobs?  Eliminate the *concept* of "free time"?  Fuck, he's just pulling shit out of his ass, isn't he?

--Dave

[Quinton]

Wow, who *is* this idiot?  He is seriously confused.  He's also one of those douchebags who likes editing replies to his blog and inserting "witty" editorial remarks.  Where'd you find this guy?  He's so impressively wrong I don't even know where to begin. ^^

So far I've seen no indication that netbooks are going away.  Their insane sales growth has slowed but certainly not stopped.  I expect they'll comfortable outsell ipad this year and continue to do so into the future.  Being half the price helps a lot.  Being able to run all those windows apps or any custom software you like is also kinda nice.

Also, the "android is dead" meme makes me laugh, always.  That these guys think Apple with their single phone product is going to own the entire smartphone space just kills me.  Don't give up, Apple Faithful!  Never give up!

I think the success of the original ipod (which took years) has somehow convinced these guys that Apple can somehow invade every market that effectively.  So far ipod is the rare exception to Apple's high end niche iLifeStyle product focus.