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Reply #2730 on: October 02, 2017, 11:33:08 AM

why so serious?

You're adorable.

But I think he's actually right, at least with the "driving" part  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly? . No more driving license for you, 65+ old man!! (side factors: less cars, pollution, etc.).

Although, in an ideal world, public transport (or even private, see Uber) and related services should be on par and efficient in order for those 65+ fellas to access services and entertainment almost as easily and hassle-free as they would if they kept driving themselves (I'm currently 39 and I REALLY would like to stop driving aorund 60-65, knowing that I can rely on other means of transportation, not counting on friends, relatives, etc.).

But yeah, back to PC building  why so serious?

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Reply #2731 on: October 02, 2017, 11:55:15 AM

Talk to me about that again in 20 years Lucas.

I'm 59 as are all my college buddies who graduated from UW in 1982 with degrees in Computer Science.  We've generally spent our entire careers working with and building PCs. My first was a 80286 based PC clone. As far as I know we're also perfectly capable of driving. Oh, and we're also all Liberals. Perhaps this is one of those all too common circumstances where Canadians are just fucking smarter than Americans.
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Reply #2732 on: October 08, 2017, 05:14:33 PM

why so serious?

You're adorable.

But I think he's actually right, at least with the "driving" part  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly? . No more driving license for you, 65+ old man!! (side factors: less cars, pollution, etc.).

Although, in an ideal world, public transport (or even private, see Uber) and related services should be on par and efficient in order for those 65+ fellas to access services and entertainment almost as easily and hassle-free as they would if they kept driving themselves (I'm currently 39 and I REALLY would like to stop driving aorund 60-65, knowing that I can rely on other means of transportation, not counting on friends, relatives, etc.).

My grandfather had to hit his 80s and be half-deep in dementia, endangering a shitload of people multiple times before they'd even consider taking his license.  I have to think we can set the bar just a bit higher than that.  

That said, I want the dildos that I have to fucking honk off a green light multiple times a week to have their fucking licenses revoked.  Seriously - I didn't touch my horn for a quarter century.  Now, I have to do it 3-6 times a week just because some dumb fuck is texting instead of driving.

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Reply #2733 on: October 22, 2017, 10:31:51 AM

Talk to me about that again in 20 years Lucas.

I'm 59 as are all my college buddies who graduated from UW in 1982 with degrees in Computer Science.  We've generally spent our entire careers working with and building PCs. My first was a 80286 based PC clone. As far as I know we're also perfectly capable of driving. Oh, and we're also all Liberals. Perhaps this is one of those all too common circumstances where Canadians are just fucking smarter than Americans.
Statistically speaking, odds are you all are in fact a shitty drivers.   awesome, for real

I've made it from 24 to 34 without owning a car or driving.  Hoping to make it the rest of the way out like that.  People older than 60 should manage just fine.  Burn their licenses and save lives.

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Reply #2734 on: November 12, 2017, 08:45:29 AM

http://www.microcenter.com/product/486481/1510_156_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black

PowerSpec 1510 15.6" Gaming Laptop Computer - Black; Intel Core i7-7700HQ Processor 2.80GHz; NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB; 16GB DDR4 RAM; 1TB HDD+250GB SSD

$1,249.99

As far as I can tell, that's the cheapest a gaming laptop w/ a 1070 has ever been.  PowerSpec is Microcenter's in house brand, which I think is affiliated w/ ASUS.

It's 6lbs though which seems heavy for a 4 cell battery.

I'm entering the market for a gaming laptop and I think the jump from 1060 -> 1080 is probably worth the +$200.  What is wrong w/ that one? I guess I should probably wait and take a look at black friday deals right?
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Reply #2735 on: November 12, 2017, 08:47:24 AM

Not having to put bullshit optical drives in shit has made everything better.
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Reply #2736 on: November 14, 2017, 12:26:16 PM

Funny I just came here to ask about pre-builts cause I don't think I can be fucked building ones anymore.

Any good pre-built gaming PCs for under $1000? Or if I'm going for build my own what's the current sweet spot for value on intel and geforce that I should be looking at? (or AMD and radeon if we've gone back there)

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Reply #2737 on: November 14, 2017, 03:53:49 PM

A Ryzen 5 1600X is the sweet spot for CPU Price performance right now from everything I have been looking at.

GPU you are looking at a 1060 probably being the best bang for your buck under $400 since the miners are still inflating GPU prices.


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Reply #2738 on: November 14, 2017, 04:30:16 PM

Funny I just came here to ask about pre-builts cause I don't think I can be fucked building ones anymore.

Any good pre-built gaming PCs for under $1000? Or if I'm going for build my own what's the current sweet spot for value on intel and geforce that I should be looking at? (or AMD and radeon if we've gone back there)

If you can wait until Black Friday, there seems to be some deals around, jotting some down since I'm also in the market:

Dell

Alienware Aurora
$799.99
8th Gen Intel® Core™ i5 processor, Windows 10 Home, 8GB memory*, 1TB* hard drive, 6GB* NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 graphics card*

Inspiron 15 7000 Gaming
$899.99
7th Gen Intel® Core™ i5 processor, Windows 10 Home, 8GB memory*, 1TB* hard drive + 128GB* SSD, 6GB* NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 graphics card*, 15.6" Full HD display

Best Buy
iBUYPOWER
$899.99
Desktop - Intel Core i7 7700 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - 120GB Solid State Drive + 1TB Hard Drive - Gray/black

CyberPowerPC
$629.99
Gamer Ultra Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 8GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580 - 1TB Hard Drive - Black

MSI - GS Series Stealth Pro 15.6" Laptop
$1299.99
Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - 1TB HDD + 256GB SSD - Aluminum black

Walmart
HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower
$499.99
Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB* Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10

Newegg always has a ton of stuff.
MSI GS Series GS63VR Stealth Pro-469 15.6"
$1049.99
Intel Core i7 6th Gen 6700HQ (2.60 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 VR Ready 16 GB Memory 128 GB M.2 SATA SSD 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Gaming

Microcenter already selling.

PowerSpec G314 Desktop Computer
$999.99
Intel Core i5-7600K Processor 3.80GHz; NVIDIA GeForce GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 VR Ready; 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM; 480GB Solid State Drive

PowerSpec 1510 15.6" Gaming Laptop Computer
$1,249.99
Intel Core i7-7700HQ Processor 2.80GHz; NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB; 16GB DDR4 RAM; 1TB HDD+250GB SSD


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Reply #2739 on: November 18, 2017, 06:11:42 AM

Thanks all.

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Reply #2740 on: November 18, 2017, 11:03:26 AM

1050 ti? Is that the best bang for buck under 200? Honestly never paid over 200 for a vid card in 15 years..Im cheap and never really noticed a problem with 98% of games over that time.

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Reply #2741 on: November 18, 2017, 02:46:52 PM

Yes though personally I would spend the extra $65 and and get the 1060 (~$225).
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Reply #2742 on: November 18, 2017, 02:54:19 PM

1050 ti? Is that the best bang for buck under 200? Honestly never paid over 200 for a vid card in 15 years..Im cheap and never really noticed a problem with 98% of games over that time.
There's a huge jump in performance right now between <$200 and just over $200. The RX 570 is going to be about 50% better performance for right around $200 if you watch for sales, the 1060 is going to be a notch (roughly 10%) up on that in both price and performance.

The <$200 market has been laid waste by used mining rigs, if you don't want used there isn't much there.

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Reply #2743 on: November 19, 2017, 08:25:05 PM

What's my best way into a VR-capable rig for Elite: Dangerous?

Don't want to spend top dollar, but I do want a reliable gaming PC that will very smoothly run an Oculus Rift for the next couple of years. Maybe an Alienware Aurora on Black Friday?
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Reply #2744 on: November 19, 2017, 09:44:55 PM

It's going to depend on the GPU. Each eye/screen on the Oculus Rift is 1080 x 1200 running at 90 Hz. That's 25% more pixels than a 1080p display (2160 x 1200 vs 1920 x 1080) so you can think of needing a GPU that can run 1080p at 112.5 FPS (90 Hz * 1.25) at whatever quality settings you like for the smoothest experience. A GTX 1070 or equivalent used to be the minimum GPU requirement though apparently a 1060 is now the minimum. However even a single GTX 1080 Ti can struggle to hit a consistent 90 FPS on some VR games so basically the sky is still the limit on the hardware you'll need for the best VR experience.
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Reply #2745 on: November 19, 2017, 11:06:38 PM

Having played 40 hours of E:D in VR, I can say that it will run on a 970, but aliased to hell and less than what you would call smooth.  A 1080 improves things considerably.  In my estimation, a 1070 should be considered minimum for decent performance in VR, but as Trippy alludes to, there is no limit.  You will always be wanting more in VR...it isn't like flat screen gaming where you can be happy with min specs for some things.

E:D is glorious in VR, by the way.  Wish I had more time for stuff.

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Reply #2746 on: November 20, 2017, 01:29:45 PM

ABS bre built Gaming PC from NewEgg

Any thoughts? Keep in mind I'm working on basically a $600 budget here. Price is right, I don't think I can build a PC from scratch with the same components for less.

Any red flags that stand out to people?

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Reply #2747 on: November 20, 2017, 01:38:35 PM

Well other than the fact that it didn't work for half the reviewers awesome, for real the only negative I can see, not knowing much about Ryzen, is the chipset doesn't support overclocking even though the CPU does.

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Reply #2748 on: November 20, 2017, 01:47:04 PM

It also doesn't say which brand of mobo it is, which means it's probably a cheap knockoff. That's probably why it doesn't work all the time.

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Reply #2749 on: November 22, 2017, 07:28:07 PM

I'm debating building a PC for my kid for xmas; I'd like it to be able to run Warframe and Minecraft but neither of those are particularly demanding. I threw something together on pcpartpicker:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($29.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - REDBONE U3 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $368.94 *After $65 of mail in rebates.
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-22 22:23 EST-0500

Graphics cards are in a strange place I guess, because of all this dumb bitcoin mining; even going back a few generations I can't find anything half decent for under $100. WF's system specs are a joke, but I don't want to overpay for really old components.

Is there anywhere I can save money here? The obvious answer is to see what goes on sale this weekend, and I'm still not sure if I'm going to pull the trigger at all. Just thought I'd ask for everyone's opinion here as well.

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Reply #2750 on: November 22, 2017, 08:38:22 PM

Might be able to save a bit by going with slower memory. Also you'll want something like 2x4 GB for dual channel RAM rather than a single stick.
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Reply #2751 on: November 22, 2017, 08:49:11 PM

I'd like it to be able to run Warframe and Minecraft but neither of those are particularly demanding.
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Reply #2752 on: November 23, 2017, 04:44:46 AM

Might be able to save a bit by going with slower memory. Also you'll want something like 2x4 GB for dual channel RAM rather than a single stick.

Good call, thanks.
I'd like it to be able to run Warframe and Minecraft but neither of those are particularly demanding.
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MC is really just a RAM hog, and that's an easy upgrade later.

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Reply #2753 on: November 23, 2017, 01:00:45 PM

I think I've settled on the Dell S2716DG after seeing one in person. 

Best Buy is currently selling them in-store for $449.  Before I pull the trigger, i'm wondering if it might behoove me to wait for Black Friday sales since those are coming up and I already have an older 1080p monitor I can use in the meantime?

I'm glad I waited:
Best Buy is selling these displays for $350.

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Reply #2754 on: November 30, 2017, 08:07:55 PM

I'm debating building a PC for my kid for xmas; I'd like it to be able to run Warframe and Minecraft but neither of those are particularly demanding. I threw something together on pcpartpicker:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($29.00 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB ACX 2.0 Video Card  ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill - REDBONE U3 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $368.94 *After $65 of mail in rebates.
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-22 22:23 EST-0500

Graphics cards are in a strange place I guess, because of all this dumb bitcoin mining; even going back a few generations I can't find anything half decent for under $100. WF's system specs are a joke, but I don't want to overpay for really old components.

Is there anywhere I can save money here? The obvious answer is to see what goes on sale this weekend, and I'm still not sure if I'm going to pull the trigger at all. Just thought I'd ask for everyone's opinion here as well.

Looks good - if you don't mind and/or want a weird-layout chassis, I have a Lian-Li PC-100 that you can have.

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Reply #2755 on: December 12, 2017, 06:46:41 AM

Whoever was looking for a laptop:

https://m.costco.com/Dell-Inspiron-15-7000-Series-Gaming-Laptop---Intel-Core-i5---6GB-NVIDIA-Graphics---1080p.product.100380743.html
6GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 Graphics
256GB PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive
Backlit Keyboard
802.11 Dual Band Wireless-AC + Bluetooth® 4.2
1x USB 3.0 Type-C
$699
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Reply #2756 on: December 16, 2017, 12:48:29 PM

"My PC contains an AMD Phenom II X4 840t clocked at 2.90 ghz and turbos up to 3.20 ghz. The ram in the computer is 8 gigabytes of DDR3 and the GPU is an R7 260x 2gb variant which has suited me well for any game I've played. The case is a Rosewill Line-M which features a blue LED fan. The power supply is a Corsair CX-430M which is the perfect amount of wattage for the PC. The games I play are PUBG and I play with 45 fps on very low because that's what everyone is playing at due to poor optimization. I play Destiny 2 as well on Ultra getting around 45-50 fps. I'm asking $300 for the computer."



This is now 225. No hdd. What's your take, this worth my roomie buying?
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Reply #2757 on: December 16, 2017, 01:03:01 PM

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Reply #2758 on: December 16, 2017, 01:09:54 PM

It's an okay deal at $225 but if your roomie doesn't have a copy of Windows her or she is can use that's an additional expense on top of the HDD so it might not be worth it at that point. Very roughly the used prices would be something like:

* Power supply (nicest component in build) $60
* Motherboard (unknown model) $30
* CPU $40
* GPU $40
* RAM $30
* Case $10
* "Assembly"/misc stuff $225 - $210 = $15
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Reply #2759 on: December 27, 2017, 12:34:08 PM

My son now has a better PC than me and I'm vaguely annoyed by it (plus I watched him play PUBG last night and want a PC that can run it).

Other things to note:

Doublecheck you bought the right RAM, it'd been a few years and I didn't double check so ended up with DDR3 instead of DDR4...nothing like the sheer dissapointment of a 17 year old who didn't get to play his PC till the next day (and having to make a morning trip to Best Buy)..

Make sure your HD comes with a SATA cable.

Make sure when you are at Best Buy the next day buying RAM you don't forget to buy the SATA cable.

Have a PC store nearby that sells SATA cables. Staples does not.

He has a Razer keyboard with the old school keyboard click feedback. I so badly want one now.

Nothing like that moment when you finally turn on the PC and nothing happens, there's that 10 seconds of sheer 'oh fucking shit what did I fuck up' before you realize you haven't turned the power supply switch on.


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Reply #2760 on: December 28, 2017, 12:23:18 PM


Nothing like that moment when you finally turn on the PC and nothing happens, there's that 10 seconds of sheer 'oh fucking shit what did I fuck up' before you realize you haven't turned the power supply switch on.



Heh, the one we did for my MiL last weekend got a blank screen. Fiddled with a bunch of stuff. After much angst, realized we didn't have the right input set for the screen for the connection we used. Good times.

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Reply #2761 on: January 02, 2018, 09:18:00 PM

Where are we at for GPU's in the $200-300 range these days? 30min of google and newegg led me mainly to looking at 3gb 1060's...

I'm on a 660ti right now.

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Reply #2762 on: January 02, 2018, 10:44:41 PM

The 6 GB version may give you slightly better performance:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-vs-6gb-review_13

There's also the AMD RX 580 if you are willing to spend a few extra bucks.

https://www.techspot.com/review/1393-radeon-rx-580-vs-geforce-gtx-1060/
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Reply #2763 on: January 13, 2018, 06:33:23 PM

can crypto fuck off and die in a fire soon pls?

every gpu is back to being out of stock

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Reply #2764 on: January 13, 2018, 09:30:42 PM

My new computer came with an Nvidia 1060 with 3 GB, and my PC only had 8GB of RAM. This thing has taken everything I've thrown at it in 1080p on a 27" monitor without a hiccup. Total War Warhammer being probably the most intensive - it didn't even burp. If you can find one in stock, it's a good solid card to have. I haven't run anything with VR though.

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