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Reply #2695 on: July 26, 2017, 07:23:21 AM

I'm using the 1350 version of that. I travel to where there's terrible power, and they usually last about 12 to 18 months then start throwing beeps and errors and dying.

But my pc&monitors don't.
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Reply #2696 on: July 26, 2017, 08:38:50 AM

If it is just powering a PC and your real concern is power conditioning not runtime, a 1000VA model (and probably even a 750) should be big enough. I run my work PC plus two monitors on a 1K and get at least a half hour of runtime.
Good point. I'm going to run a wattage meter on my pc anyway to see what it's drawing. But it's just for the line conditioning, the battery backup is just a bonus.

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Reply #2697 on: July 26, 2017, 07:10:35 PM

Hmm...since I bought a fancy power supply, I guess I need a fancy UPS? (Active PFC Sinewave)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00429N19W/

Wasn't planning on $400 (for PSU and UPS) but I'm not feeling like skimping here, either. The white noise blasts every now and again probably shaved off a couple of Bart's lives, the poor bastard.  

I have the 1350VA version of that on my desktop setup.  It's about three years old now and still kicking.  According to it, my full setup draws about 380W at full blast while gaming.
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Reply #2698 on: August 03, 2017, 02:42:07 PM

Anyone have an opinion on if buying a G-Sync enabled monitor is worth it, over just saving the $200 and spending it elsewhere?

I'm considering getting a 27" 1440p IPS display, but the ones supporting G-Sync are in the $700 range as opposed to others with no adaptive refresh (or perhaps Freesync) are about $200 cheaper, and both sets are 144Hz or higher.

I'm expecting that with my new setup, I should be running games that are achieving around 100-120FPS (I never run Ultra settings on anything), so I'm not sure if that extra cash is worth it or not (for that money I could nearly get another 1060 and run SLI).

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Reply #2699 on: August 03, 2017, 03:39:24 PM

I didn't think it was worth it when I bought my 144Hz display, but then I've never seen Gsync at work, so maybe I'm missing something!

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Reply #2700 on: August 03, 2017, 05:29:16 PM

G-Sync monitors are mega expensive because unlike Freesync the adaptive sync circuitry is in the monitor. Thus why they are so much more expensive.

Of course with card prices what they are right now, it would be cheaper than buying another card if you were thinking of doing SLI (which has become less and less of a thing).
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Reply #2701 on: August 03, 2017, 11:35:08 PM

Anyone have an opinion on if buying a G-Sync enabled monitor is worth it, over just saving the $200 and spending it elsewhere?

I'm considering getting a 27" 1440p IPS display, but the ones supporting G-Sync are in the $700 range as opposed to others with no adaptive refresh (or perhaps Freesync) are about $200 cheaper, and both sets are 144Hz or higher.

I'm expecting that with my new setup, I should be running games that are achieving around 100-120FPS (I never run Ultra settings on anything), so I'm not sure if that extra cash is worth it or not (for that money I could nearly get another 1060 and run SLI).

I bought a Dell 24" G-Sync 1440p/165Hz TN panel a few months ago for around $400.  Not gonna lie - I'd never go back.  No tearing or stuttering even with highly variable framerates, so you can achieve totally smooth gameplay at higher settings on a given card than you could with a fixed-refresh panel.  I don't mind the reduced color accuracy since I have a pair of IPS panels flanking it that I can use for shit that requires it.
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Reply #2702 on: August 04, 2017, 05:45:18 AM

Anyone have an opinion on if buying a G-Sync enabled monitor is worth it, over just saving the $200 and spending it elsewhere?

I'm considering getting a 27" 1440p IPS display, but the ones supporting G-Sync are in the $700 range as opposed to others with no adaptive refresh (or perhaps Freesync) are about $200 cheaper, and both sets are 144Hz or higher.

I'm expecting that with my new setup, I should be running games that are achieving around 100-120FPS (I never run Ultra settings on anything), so I'm not sure if that extra cash is worth it or not (for that money I could nearly get another 1060 and run SLI).

I bought a Dell 24" G-Sync 1440p/165Hz TN panel a few months ago for around $400.  Not gonna lie - I'd never go back.  No tearing or stuttering even with highly variable framerates, so you can achieve totally smooth gameplay at higher settings on a given card than you could with a fixed-refresh panel.  I don't mind the reduced color accuracy since I have a pair of IPS panels flanking it that I can use for shit that requires it.

I can definitely echo what MisterNoisy wrote: I have been using a 27" Dell G-Sync 1440p/144hz TN Panel, specifically the S2716DG Model, for about 14 months now and boy what a difference. At the time, I purchased it while it featured a heavy discount (I think I paid slightly above €400). The only small downside I found is that you have to engage in a little research around the net in order to adjust some of the colour settings (either using your graphic card ones or the monitor's) in order to obtain a better overall visual quality.

No more worries about V-sync and, if you don't need/can't  go over 60/100/120 frames per second in certain games you can adjust that via Nvidia inspector or, even better, MSI Afterburner (with the RivaTuner application)

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Reply #2703 on: August 04, 2017, 07:43:21 PM

I've been looking at that specific one:  I love Dell displays, have been using UltraSharps for the past 10+ years.

So you find yourself regretful about the TN panel as compared to an IPS?  For my situation, I don't see myself using it off-axis often (if at all), and reviews I've seen on YouTube have been glowing about the color accuracy and vividness.

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Reply #2704 on: August 05, 2017, 05:49:56 AM

Personally, I can't provide you with an objective comparison 'cause I never owned (or used) an IPS monitor.

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Reply #2705 on: August 10, 2017, 01:08:11 PM

I think I've settled on the Dell S2716DG after seeing one in person. 

Best Buy is currently selling them in-store for $449.  Before I pull the trigger, i'm wondering if it might behoove me to wait for Black Friday sales since those are coming up and I already have an older 1080p monitor I can use in the meantime?

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Reply #2706 on: August 10, 2017, 02:05:19 PM

It doesn't seem likely that it will be much, if any, cheaper on Black Friday. For a lot of things like this, it seems that the BF deals are usually cheap-o versions made just for BF.

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Reply #2707 on: August 10, 2017, 05:55:38 PM

Dell typically doesn't have weird Black Friday "models" they just run sales various times of the year on their monitors/computers.

This time of year is actually one of the best times as they try to push things at the beginning of the school year.

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Reply #2708 on: August 10, 2017, 06:42:40 PM

A fair comparison of price data here: https://camelcamelcamel.com/Dell-Gaming-S2716DG-LED-Lit-Monitor/product/B0149QBOF0?context=search

No Amazon data during T-day last year, but it overall rarely dips below $500.
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Reply #2709 on: August 13, 2017, 03:59:55 PM

still waiting for the CHG90 to actually be released
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