Patch 3.3

[caladein]

Prat broke, natch.
Grid generated an error, apparently with a library that wasn't doing much of anything.
The attempt to break AVR may very well have done something to ChocolateBar (my DataBroker display), but I just needed to grab a new version of the offending library and the errors stopped.

Overall, a really uneventful patch from an addon perspective.  I have had some crashes though and leaving the Underbelly does seem to make the game go all black for no reason so, stability has been not-so-good.

[Merusk]

Never, ever try to raid on Tuesday.

Explain that to my 25-year-old raidleader who seems to think that raiding Tuesdays is a stellar idea.  Can't do it Friday/ Saturday because "I have a life to live..." (except they don't and have been on WoW Friday and Saturday night I've ever been on, anyway.) 

[Nevermore]

I have had some crashes though and leaving the Underbelly does seem to make the game go all black for no reason so, stability has been not-so-good.

Do you have a 64 bit OS?  This patch has introduced a nasty memory leak/crash problem.  That black flickering is one of the things that could happen when the system starts to run out of memory.

[caladein]

Yeah, I've had that problem before related to memory so if there's a new leak it would make sense that it's happening more quickly for me.

[Shrike]

I have had some crashes though and leaving the Underbelly does seem to make the game go all black for no reason so, stability has been not-so-good.

Do you have a 64 bit OS?  This patch has introduced a nasty memory leak/crash problem.  That black flickering is one of the things that could happen when the system starts to run out of memory.

It's affect 32 bit OSs as well. I'm running Win7 32bit and I have this problem in spades. It never crashes, but graphical issues make the game essentially unplayable out in the world.

[Sheepherder]

I appear to have dodged the bullet.

[Selby]

I appear to have dodged the bullet.

Same.  Mine runs fine, no changes at all.  Half the guild can't go to Dal anymore though.

[Musashi]

Never, ever try to raid on Tuesday.

Explain that to my 25-year-old raidleader who seems to think that raiding Tuesdays is a stellar idea.  Can't do it Friday/ Saturday because "I have a life to live..." (except they don't and have been on WoW Friday and Saturday night I've ever been on, anyway.) 

Everything breaks on maintenance, especially when they patch.  Everyone zergs reset instances, whose servers shit themselves.  It's just a bad, bad, idea to raid on Tuesday if you take any other day off from raiding during the week.

[Merusk]

Hello pastor, I'm the chorus leader.

[WindupAtheist]

This barely feels like an MMO anymore. I don't need gold or rep so I don't do dailies, and those were the only reason for a level 80 to ever leave town anymore.

[Soulflame]

Just think of Dalaran as a lobby!  That makes it all better, right?

[Triforcer]

But...but...I thought it was the pinnacle of MMO evolution to never have to travel to dungeons or do anything except fight bosses!  Any other opinion means you are a sadomachosistic 1999 Everquest player who wants to punish players instead of letting them have fun!


This is the bed ya'll made every time you screeched "DEVS WANT TO PUNISH ME BECAUSE PEN AND PAPER D&D WAS HARD AND THEY CAN'T JUST LET US HAVE FUN!1!"

Lie in it. 

[Lantyssa]

I'm fine with it, but then I find ways to keep myself more involved than sitting in Dalaran.

(It's still DIKU though, so there are still plenty of faults I can find with it.)

[Sjofn]

But...but...I thought it was the pinnacle of MMO evolution to never have to travel to dungeons or do anything except fight bosses!  Any other opinion means you are a sadomachosistic 1999 Everquest player who wants to punish players instead of letting them have fun!


This is the bed ya'll made every time you screeched "DEVS WANT TO PUNISH ME BECAUSE PEN AND PAPER D&D WAS HARD AND THEY CAN'T JUST LET US HAVE FUN!1!"

Lie in it. 

I find said bed pretty comfortable, but I leave Dalaran all the time.

[WindupAtheist]

They need more goldsinks so I have a reason to do dailies. The motorcycle and mammoth are too expensive and not desirable enough. If you have 5k gold and have already bought epic flight and dual spec, you can basically either kill yourself farming another 10k or just decide you have enough and forget gold exists.

Also, UO was more worldy that whatever bullshit you miss, Triforcer, but you could still travel anywhere instantly by recalling. WoW is a positively nuisance-filled slog of running and flying to places by comparison.

[Lakov_Sanite]

You could always try i dunno, rp. that or being social, joining a like minded group of indivduals and running events and such? I dunno you could call it an association or a guild if you like.

Before we get on this giant lobby tangent can we at least agree that having to run to barrens just to do WSG or take a 15min flight to searing gorge to to BRD sucked ass?

[lesion]

I've got a hojillion alts and make poor life decisions. My problem is saving up more than 100 gold. The newer dungeon system is le awesome.

[Cadaverine]

I'm not liking that I can't bring the chat window all the way down to the bottom left.  Other than that, it's business as usual after I turned off all the realID stuff I could find to turn off.

[Ingmar]

I've got a hojillion alts and make poor life decisions. My problem is saving up more than 100 gold. The newer dungeon system is le awesome.

Yeah, me too. The game really wants you to roll alts, you can sink a lot of gold into that.

If you're raiding and the upgrades are coming quickly, you can burn through a lot of gold repairing after wiped and buying new gems and enchants, too.

[Lantyssa]

You could always try i dunno, rp. that or being social, joining a like minded group of indivduals and running events and such? I dunno you could call it an association or a guild if you like.

Hahahahahahahahaha!  RP in WoW?  *dies laughing*

I love RP.  Probably more than most of the board.  I'd rather shoot myself in an extremity than try to find RP in WoW.

[Sheepherder]

Yeah, me too. The game really wants you to roll alts, you can sink a lot of gold into that.

If you're raiding and the upgrades are coming quickly, you can burn through a lot of gold repairing after wiped and buying new gems and enchants, too.

I make money on alts.  Not a lot, but if I try hard enough I can usually afford a basic flying mount by 60.

[Rasix]

All my 80s have epic (and Northrend) flying. That's a fair bit of money there.  Not to mention that I gem and enchant as best I can and have a bad habit of changing my mind on my tradeskills.  I'm usually pretty drained or have large "corrections" in my bank balance semi-often. I think I still have 6-10k (no idea really, I don't remember at the time I quit) for my goblin hunter.  But, I don't put a lot of effort into making money outside of selling uncut epic gems (rogue is a transmute master) and only really try hard when I need another epic flying, which hasn't been for a bit now.

If I really wanted to spend money I could get a hilts for my characters that could use a slight upgrade over the 232 they have. Or level my druid and his leatherworking  

[Sjofn]

You could always try i dunno, rp. that or being social, joining a like minded group of indivduals and running events and such? I dunno you could call it an association or a guild if you like.

Hahahahahahahahaha!  RP in WoW?  *dies laughing*

I love RP.  Probably more than most of the board.  I'd rather shoot myself in an extremity than try to find RP in WoW.

Moon Guard/Horde has it! It's ADORABLE.

[WindupAtheist]

Hahahahahahahahaha!  RP in WoW?  *dies laughing*

I love RP.  Probably more than most of the board.  I'd rather shoot myself in an extremity than try to find RP in WoW.

QFT.

I don't even know why WoW has RP servers. The game just plain isn't built for it at all.

Also, I just joined a guild in WoW. On my RP server. All they do is run heroics, make jokes in chat about who has more dicks in their mouth/ass/nose, and talk idle shit about getting ready to raid ICC. I've been in their Ventrilo, and all I'm waiting for is for a girl to join, because I can already tell you they're going to go absolutely fucking spastic.

[Ironwood]

You need to BE that girl.  And then post us the funny.


Come on;  Make it Happen.

[WindupAtheist]

That's way too much work. I just fail to try and MMO date the girl, and thus she ends up running around with me/Gar/Lex because she doesn't feel like we expect anything of her. Then since Gar and Lex are engaged IRL, some hunchbacked lovestruck nerd decides it's clearly WUA who has stolen his e-woman. Drama ensues.

[Ratman_tf]

Gemming and enchanting (I often make bad decisions or change my mind and have to regem) eats up all my extra gold. When I started to work on a set of offspec gear, grinding dailies to feed that contributed to my recent WoW burnout.

[WindupAtheist]

Am I really the only one who plays a single character, researches his gems and enchants before buying them, has two gathering professions, and isn't unduly addicted to vanity pets off the AH or something? I've had enough money laying around that I've largely subsidized epic flying for good friends of mine in the past, and I really do not grind hard at all.

[Shrike]

Am I really the only one who plays a single character, researches his gems and enchants before buying them, has two gathering professions, and isn't unduly addicted to vanity pets off the AH or something? I've had enough money laying around that I've largely subsidized epic flying for good friends of mine in the past, and I really do not grind hard at all.

No, but I play 3 characters regularly (2x80s, 1x79 that's xp locked because of bracket PvP) and 3 more occasionally (another 80, a 77 that will eventually join the 79, and a 58 bracket warrior I just don't have time for right now). They all have supporting gathering professions (mostly mining--four are tanks). They all have complementary TS professions. They all can make money and have substantial bankrolls when they're active. I don't typically blow money on stupid stuff in the AH, and the regulars are tuned to a razor edge in their respective classes. I do spend a fair amount of time on the AH looking for deals in raw gems, leather, and enchants. This stuff gets stored for "later". I don't like impulse shopping.

I don't grind much anymore. I do like to keep a certain amount on gold on hand and I will go out of my way to keep it at a comfortable level (30k). Otherwise, I just run the dungeon dailys and fiddle around with the tournament dailys. I might do a bit more, but that's the everyday stuff. Takes about two hours to get done, unless it's a PvP night, then all bets are off. Raiding is strictly a weekend thing.

[lesion]

All my 80s have epic (and Northrend) flying.

If I transfer something to your server, can I have your stuff?

[Merusk]

Am I really the only one who plays a single character,

On this board? Yes.

Since we're talking money, If I was still running dailies I'd probably have 20-25k right now instead of just 15k.  There's always tons of greens to turn into scrolls on my enchanting alt and the DK is a miner/ blacksmith.  That gives him access to selling gems, ore and faction-required smithy patterns to make money off of on top of the dailies.

I've found the best way to keep money is to just take leveling the tradeskills slowly and don't do something dumb like buying up mats.   Keep your bags empty so you can collect things, including greys (Which I STILl see people skip looting) and have a few alts to convert things like greens, blues and cloth into finished items or mats that will sell.

[Paelos]

Am I really the only one who plays a single character,

On this board? Yes.

Wrong. I play a warrior tank. That's it. He's a blacksmithing/engineer, so no gathering professions, all gemmed and enchanted with combo gear from 10/25 man ICC, and has 6,000 gold on him. Even without the gathering, I've never had a need for gold. Hell, if I need gold badly I'll just run dungeons and fish for a couple of days and I'm usually set for the next 2 months. Also, I hate pets and don't buy any of the non-functional shit off the AH.

So WUA, you're not the only one.

[Rasix]

All my 80s have epic (and Northrend) flying.

If I transfer something to your server, can I have your stuff?

Some stuff perhaps.  Not all stuff.  I like my stuff since apparently I'd need a licensed 12 step program to ever stop playing WoW permanently.

I'm not there currently.  My stuff is idle.  

edit: Eh, we take you for granted Paelos. We know you're the looney lone warrior.

[Draegan]

When I play WOW, I only play one character as well.

[Paelos]

edit: Eh, we take you for granted Paelos. We know you're the looney lone warrior.

Fair enough. I'm also a CPA though so I have in-game budgets.

Because I'm a nerd.