Cataclysm

[Zetor]

My rogue has the Sacred Charge / Tribal Guardian combo and 8/8 darkmantle (no felstriker though). It'll be glorious... until I remember why I stopped playing a rogue with my 700 ping. 

[SurfD]

man, now i am going to have to start farming Hyjal / Black Temple / Sunwell for Shaman tier.

[Modern Angel]

Haha, you guys are such suckers... 

From quitting to thinking up ways to farm obsolete gear for four months to make your dudes look JUST SO in what looks like the clunkiest implementation of cosmetic gear ever to grace an MMO. Blizzard are geniuses.

[Ivanneth]

Haha, you guys are such suckers...  Blizzard are geniuses.

It's true. I hadn't set foot in a raid instance since Gruul's lair - until last night when a friend and I started duoing Ulduar, neither of us having never been inside before. I had a blast. We never would have seriously considered doing that without transmogrification coming. Now I'm all excited about gearing up my DK for tanking in old raids - the pvp crafted set and my shitty axe from Deepholm (I just hit 85) is good enough to get Flame Leviathan down, but not good enough to get any other bosses down before the enrage timer.

[Nebu]

From quitting to thinking up ways to farm obsolete gear for four months to make your dudes look JUST SO in what looks like the clunkiest implementation of cosmetic gear ever to grace an MMO.

I was excited to see the addition of wardrobe... sadly, it looks like WoW hasn't aged well.  After playing Rift, I don't think I could look at WoW graphics again without cringing.  Odd since I'm not much of a graphics whore. 

[March]

Haha, you guys are such suckers... 

From quitting to thinking up ways to farm obsolete gear for four months to make your dudes look JUST SO in what looks like the clunkiest implementation of cosmetic gear ever to grace an MMO. Blizzard are geniuses.

I was thinking the same thing, but couldn't put my finger on it.  Well done.

100% chance I will not re-visit a 7-year-old-game with dated graphics and bad art (IMO) to try to (re-)collect random drops that I had long deleted from irrelevant and level inappropriate content.

On the plus side, the ability to customize your weapon is something I have always wanted in a wardrobe, but assumed there was some sort of technical limitation... fix this now Rift or I'll, I'll, I'll... hmmn, kinda gave away my leverage above. 

[caladein]

From quitting to thinking up ways to farm obsolete gear for four months to make your dudes look JUST SO in what looks like the clunkiest implementation of cosmetic gear ever to grace an MMO.

I was excited to see the addition of wardrobe... sadly, it looks like WoW hasn't aged well.  After playing Rift, I don't think I could look at WoW graphics again without cringing.  Odd since I'm not much of a graphics whore. 

Are you referring to the pictures people have been posting in this thread recently or have your recently been in-game or looked at screenshots?

The model viewer stuff has always looked like crap.

As for the effect of this on my play... uh, I'm solo'ing MC once a week but that's about it.  I'm still quite happily a: log-in, raid Heroic Firelands, log-out kind of guy.

[Lakov_Sanite]

also lol at rift having good graphics

[Nebu]

also lol at rift having good graphics

I don't think I said Rift had good graphics... I just prefer the style.  You should check out Rift with the settings maxxed.  It's pretty nice. 

To be fair, I've never liked the cartoony style of WoW.  Never.  I'm pre-biased.

[Ingmar]

From quitting to thinking up ways to farm obsolete gear for four months to make your dudes look JUST SO in what looks like the clunkiest implementation of cosmetic gear ever to grace an MMO.

I was excited to see the addition of wardrobe... sadly, it looks like WoW hasn't aged well.  After playing Rift, I don't think I could look at WoW graphics again without cringing.  Odd since I'm not much of a graphics whore. 

Yes, I would agree that is odd. Rift is probably the ugliest MMO I've played since EQ2.

MA, are you trying to fill the void in everyone's hearts left by WUA? Because you need to work on your trolling a little more if so.

[Nebu]

Yes, I would agree that is odd. Rift is probably the ugliest MMO I've played since EQ2.

Appears we're just polar opposites in terms of taste.  It also appears that I should stay out of this thread since I'm obviously the odd man out.   

[Ingmar]

Yes, I would agree that is odd. Rift is probably the ugliest MMO I've played since EQ2.

Appears we're just polar opposites in terms of taste.  It also appears that I should stay out of this thread since I'm obviously the odd man out.   

Nah, there are plenty of people who hate how WoW looks in this thread, just ask Nevermore or Lanty. 

Plus you expressed your opinion without trolling anyone or calling us WoWtards, so you know, you're ahead of the game really.

[Nebu]

Plus you expressed your opinion without trolling anyone or calling us WoWtards, so you know, you're ahead of the game really.

I enjoy WoW and appreciate all of the things that the title has brought to the genre.  I'm also very glad that they made this wardrobe change available. 

Can you selectively hide gear?  If I could hide my hideous shoulder slot items, it may be enough to get me to play for a month. 

[Ingmar]

There was a blue post about that just yesterday, actually:

The gear also still has to have stats aside from armor on it. That means that there are a lot of white or grey items that might not be available initially when Transmogrification goes live.

As an aside, a lot of people have been asking about hiding shoulders, belts, etc. For now, it's looking pretty unlikely that we'll offer the option to hide anything aside from helm and cloak.

[Nebu]

Thanks for that.  I appreciate the help!

[Rasix]

No diamond tipped pimp cane then.   

[Nevermore]

Awww.. no Diamond Ring?

[Lantyssa]

The annoying thing about no whites, is that some early sets have white pieces, so you can't get a matching look.

Nah, there are plenty of people who hate how WoW looks in this thread, just ask Nevermore or Lanty. 

I've got your back, Nebu!

[Rasix]

And for going to Rift and now seeing WoW in an ugly light?  Yep, I've experienced the same phenomenon.   I don't know how to explain it, but WoW just looks like butt to me now.  I've always been a fan of WoW graphics as well.  Perhaps it's just a matter of not seeing them in action.

Rfit's character graphics aren't that good (animations are pretty nice, however).  But a lot of their monster, gear and environment do look great.   Runs rather well on my system too.   I wonder if I can still do that  7 day "try WoW again" or if that was just from time x to time y for to refresh my memory.

[Ingmar]

WoW definitely needs to bring their old character models up to goblin/worgen level, there's no doubt about that.

[Modern Angel]

MA, are you trying to fill the void in everyone's hearts left by WUA? Because you need to work on your trolling a little more if so.

No, I genuinely find it bemusing. It's just watching all you dudes go from frothing, stab Blizzard in the throat anger into meticulous planning of how you're going to farm six year old content... I dunno. It's not my fun but if it is for you, knock yourselves out!

[Ingmar]

MA, are you trying to fill the void in everyone's hearts left by WUA? Because you need to work on your trolling a little more if so.

No, I genuinely find it bemusing. It's just watching all you dudes go from frothing, stab Blizzard in the throat anger into meticulous planning of how you're going to farm six year old content... I dunno. It's not my fun but if it is for you, knock yourselves out!

You might want to double check that the people who have been ranting are actually the same ones actually planning things out now, too. There's not really that much overlap, I don't think this is salvaging a ton of subscriptions at least in this subforum.

[Modern Angel]

I'd hope not. Like I said, this seems like an awfully clunky implementation compared to what else is out there. We'll have to see when it goes live but what we do know sounds off.

[Paelos]

I still have that email sitting in my inbox begging me to try for 7 days free.

Farming shit to look like I did 4 years ago doesn't really amuse me.

[Merusk]

I still hate the current endgame, think the dungeons are ass in general and find Cata to be a giant step backwards.

I still enjoy it more than Rift or any of the now-free MMOs, however.  I'm just biding my time until SWG Beta, really and PVPing while doing so.  I don't think I'll actually get to use this feature.  Doesn't mean I can't be jazzed about it or happy to see them cave on this one, finally.

[Lantyssa]

Rfit's character graphics aren't that good (animations are pretty nice, however).  But a lot of their monster, gear and environment do look great.   Runs rather well on my system too.   I wonder if I can still do that  7 day "try WoW again" or if that was just from time x to time y for to refresh my memory.

I just got an email saying it's going on until the 25th.

[Setanta]

also lol at rift having good graphics

I don't think I said Rift had good graphics... I just prefer the style.  You should check out Rift with the settings maxxed.  It's pretty nice. 

To be fair, I've never liked the cartoony style of WoW.  Never.  I'm pre-biased.

I never felt immersed in Rift or Aion or WAR for that matter. Clunky UIs, generic characters and gear and a totally dead feel to hitting things that all the special effects and unrealistic sounds couldn't cover up. GW was better than them but only in WoW do I ever have the feeling that I'm actually hitting something.

WoW is clownshoes with gear for certain - some of the sets look like shit as do the random items, but now and then they get it right. I suspend belief and enjoy the cartoon approach to graphics, it gives the game a distinct feel. Without the feeling of being "there", I'd rate it with the rest of the pack.

If GW2 brings that feeling of hitting things to me the WoW does then it will be my personal WoW-killer.

[Setanta]

I still hate the current endgame, think the dungeons are ass in general and find Cata to be a giant step backwards.

I still enjoy it more than Rift...

This. From the Ulduar and ICC feeling of actually doing something to Cata - miles apart.

[Mattemeo]

I still think WoW looks good. For a game that can run on as many systems as WoW can, it's a graphical masterpiece of textural ingenuity and polygonal compromise.

That said; I want to throttle the gear and item art team. There is a disturbing level of colour-blindness to the vast majority of raid-set re-colours, which makes the vast majority of the ugly-as-shit recent gear textures even more nausiating. The game world looks beautiful. Blizz just seem determined to make the players running around in it exponentially dorkier looking idiots for the last 2 or 3 years.

As an aside, a lot of people have been asking about hiding shoulders, belts, etc. For now, it's looking pretty unlikely that we'll offer the option to hide anything aside from helm and cloak.

See, part of me understands the stance. If we can already hide cloaks and helms, and can then hide shoulders and belts, what's stopping the playerbase requesting the ability to hide their pants?
The other part of me understands that 250lb Shoulderpads that resemble something from the cover of a Yes album ON FIRE and pregnancy-girdle/weightlifter belts look like utter shit.

[Ingmar]

I always think of Tarkus myself.

But of course, I have a prog-themed Blood Bowl team so I may not be the least biased judge. 

[luckton]

Daily Bink nicely summarizes the last few pages of this thread.



Can we move on to talking about the LFR feature going in? 

[Merusk]

No, because PUG raids are bad enough now.  I can't imagine how much more awful they can get when meshed with the anonymity & kick ability of PUG dungeons.

[Lantyssa]

Nope.  Raids have been in since day one.  Customizing your look is something we've been fighting for six years.

[Rokal]

Blog is up about new Darkmoon Faire.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3390849

Sad to see they are keeping the 'once week a month' thing in place for the faire, but otherwise an Island of fluff rewards/activities sounds pretty awesome.

[Merusk]

So much of this just feels like, "Oh please, casual players, stop running away. We're sorry!"  Wonder how much of it will work.