Cataclysm

[Samprimary]

ha! it would be nice to be able to nick from the pile of hunter shit i could get my hands on. Not that it's been exceptionally un-horrible recently :/

[Ivanneth]

You have to be able to wear the armor in question.

Thanks, that's good to know. It would have been a little frustrating to have collected things I can't wear.

[Ingmar]

You can find look-alike gear for a lot of the tier stuff in any case.

[Merusk]

Yeah it'll just be off-color.

Ooh. I think I still have the scourge-invasion armor that looks like Judgement on one of my non-plate chars.   

[Ingmar]

I think I finally deleted mine, will have to check.

[Sjofn]

I prefer my elf's maces to look like maces instead of hammers (dwarf paladin is going to definitely prefer hammers that look like hammers, though, like the first one Ingmar posted), so the model I plan to use is this one:


There are ones that look like maces that are smaller, and should I see one for cheap-ish on the AH I'll probably switch to that, but I like that one well enough and already have one sitting in my vault. 

[Fordel]

Great Staff, or Greatest Staff? http://www.wowhead.com/item=28959

[Sjofn]

I look forward to the Disco Pony Staff's triumphant return. 

[Der Helm]

Is this the place where I bitch about the Goblin starter zone when you run your second character through it ? 

[Sjofn]

No, that's the "Cracks Starting to Show?" thread. :P

[Lakov_Sanite]

Great Staff, or Greatest Staff? http://www.wowhead.com/item=28959

I have a decent collection of staves most notably a candleabra, a bat on a stick and a felhunter on a stick

[Jimbo]

Anyone have a good site to read up on tanking and healing? 

[Sheepherder]

I would even go so far as to say that even if you deny me my swards, an option you might want to consider is letting casters have more leeway in switching to a staff model if they want one but are stuck like most of them using onehanders.

Get looking for an off-hand that uses a staff model.  There's a few from 1-60, not sure about after that, and not sure if this is all of them.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=12471#screenshots
http://www.wowhead.com/item=15930#screenshots
http://www.wowhead.com/item=7611#screenshots
http://www.wowhead.com/item=7559#screenshots
http://www.wowhead.com/item=15962#screenshots
http://www.wowhead.com/item=15928#screenshots
http://www.wowhead.com/item=15963#screenshots

[Setanta]

Great Staff, or Greatest Staff? http://www.wowhead.com/item=28959

I have a decent collection of staves most notably a candleabra, a bat on a stick and a felhunter on a stick

I'm looking forward to my Druid tanking with her squid on a stick again

[Shrike]

1000 gold is a lot of money? Really? What, did we travel back in time to early TBC or something?

It's not a lot of money, but it's more than I'd like to spend on fluff like this (matches real life that way, I guess). I expected this was going to be a goldsink, but was kinda hoping to be proved wrong.

My primary raiding character has about 87k at last glance. I don't go too far out of my way to earn money, though. I'm still hesitant to drop about 1k. Couple of hundred, no problemo, but four figures still makes me sit up and say...hmm...money. I have a pretty fair amount, but if you go blowing it willynilly on stupid shit it'll still disappear surprisingly quickly--just like the real stuff.

[Merusk]

Yes, but it's a one-time thing and three times less than fast flight, six times less if you decided to go max-speed without doing the holiday achieve.   After buying that for 5 characters, it's a pittance of a pittance.

Plus, as has been said many times before.. gold is fairly worthless after the initial push of an expansion.  You're just hoarding until the next expansion.

[Setanta]

One day the server will shut down forever.

All your virtual gold will mean nothing.

[Miasma]

Anyone have a good site to read up on tanking and healing? 

Surprisingly, most of the official class forums have pretty good stickies.  The general tanking forum also has good stickies.  Then you head over to elitist jerks class forums for your particular spec.

On transmogify, I really hope there aren't too many limits to the "most items need stats to qualify" rule, I really, really want to wear my tophat on all my worgens.  Gotta get me a monacle and some sort of cane too.

[Setanta]

Tankspot.com and EJ

[Simond]

EJ hasn't been good since early Wrath. The standard response to someone asking a question - if the mods are in a good mood - is to just point at the relevant 200+ page class thread and says "It's in there somewhere. Go look. Don't ask again" The more typical answer nowadays is just a ban.

Man, I think there are a bunch of pretty sweet 1h maces, personally.

Those were hideous.

The only mace design you'll ever need: http://www.wowhead.com/item=25126 

[Merusk]

Agreed.  They don't even seem to update the first 5-page post according to patch changes, either.  Or weren't when I was actively giving a damn about it.

[Paelos]

Agreed.  They don't even seem to update the first 5-page post according to patch changes, either.  Or weren't when I was actively giving a damn about it.

Cataclysm makes them stop caring.

[caladein]

EJ hasn't been good since early Wrath. The standard response to someone asking a question - if the mods are in a good mood - is to just point at the relevant 200+ page class thread and says "It's in there somewhere. Go look. Don't ask again" The more typical answer nowadays is just a ban.

Well, almost all of the time it is and either in the first post or linked from it.

The thing with EJ is that the tools and techniques have matured to the point that there really is nothing to talk about for experienced players (DPS especially, although tanks and healers to a great extent).  This is also true of fight mechanics both because of time on the PTR, but also that kill videos are released after only one or two more kills are out there.  These are good things in my eyes.  (This also means that the official forums aren't useless as others have mentioned.)

Now, you can absolutely learn a class almost entirely on the backs of EJ and time spent leveling it up.  That's what I did just earlier this year and I turned out only slightly terrible.  Learning a role is different though, that's more about information management and involves a good deal of feel (and looking at a lot of UIs).

[Ingmar]

It varies by class at EJ, each thread is only as good as the person who is maintaining it.

[Paelos]

Well, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but...

We have an obligation to players and to our hard working artists to keep the game from looking too silly.

They really don't make  's big enough.

[Sheepherder]

It varies by class at EJ, each thread is only as good as the person who is not maintaining it.

They really need to move to a wiki format.

[Lantyssa]

Well, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but...

We have an obligation to players and to our hard working artists to keep the game from looking too silly.

They really don't make  's big enough.

Dare I ask what that's in reference to?

[caladein]

Fish weapons.

Also, EJ did try the multiple author/wiki thing during Wrath.  I think it only got much traction with the Shaman writers.

[Nevermore]

So fish head: 

Fish weapon: THAT'S JUST SILLY!

[Azuredream]

Well, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but...

We have an obligation to players and to our hard working artists to keep the game from looking too silly.

They really don't make  's big enough.

Dare I ask what that's in reference to?

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2973396949

Thread was about what people were going to make their characters look like post-Transmog, one guy says dual dark herrings and a Dev jumps in to say ha ha no we have a REPUTATION to uphold.

[Der Helm]

He could should have been joking...  

[Merusk]

I think I finally deleted mine, will have to check.

Turns out I did too. The only char I have it on is the Pally.. and it's Leather on her.  .  Would have loved to be a purple pally hunter.

[Mattemeo]

Dev jumps in to say ha ha no we have a REPUTATION to uphold.

If it's their reputation as willfully contrary dickheads, they're doing a fine job.

[Sjofn]

You know what's most exciting to me? My cloth caster people will be able to wear VESTS. All the time! My dwarf warlock that will never see 85 but still will be so pleased. Robes make her look fat. 

[Fordel]

Junk in the trunk baby! 


As far as class guides, go to the official class forums and read the sticky threads. Those are kept up to date and have everything you want and need. Spec, Gear, How2Play it's all covered, accurate and relevant.