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Reply #6860 on: May 29, 2011, 08:38:38 PM

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Reply #6861 on: May 30, 2011, 01:41:26 AM


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Reply #6862 on: May 30, 2011, 06:03:11 AM

The top hat is dead sexy.

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Reply #6863 on: May 30, 2011, 06:50:49 AM

There was supposed to be a tailoring top hat pattern in the game that I'm still not sure was added yet. Why? Blizzard hates rp, that's why.

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Reply #6864 on: May 30, 2011, 11:54:51 AM

They are shaking hands wrong, typical Alliance ineptitude.  Good comic though.
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Reply #6865 on: May 30, 2011, 12:20:14 PM

Isn't it a double clasp ?

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Reply #6866 on: May 30, 2011, 01:40:23 PM

Looks like it to me!

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Reply #6867 on: May 30, 2011, 04:04:30 PM

They just want to be assured of a square deal.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #6868 on: May 30, 2011, 07:28:49 PM

I don't know what his ambivalence was for, those lupine fellows look top drawer to me.

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Reply #6869 on: May 31, 2011, 01:16:54 AM

Finally got back into heroics and... they're actually pretty fun now. I even randomed a few (as dps not tank of course) and didn't want to stab myself in the eye. I did want to stab the other 2 dpsers on a Deadmines run just now, but that will happen.

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Reply #6870 on: May 31, 2011, 01:20:21 AM

You see? You see how bad some DPSers can be? It's amazing.

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Reply #6871 on: May 31, 2011, 03:54:49 AM

Thanks to STO tanking (for me), and LA Noir not being all it was cracked up to be, I caved in and accepted my free week back. Ya normal heroics are actually fun now, even though I am the only soul that interrupts at all in them, as a tank, or as a dps.

As for the new troll dungeons, FUCK THEM. Insta-gib mechanics? Check. Unavoidable raid wide damage to "challenge" the healer? Check. Frustrating enrage timers on bosses 3/4s of the way in, making you realize that, nope, this group just can't do this dungeon? Check. Long and sprawling with Noah's arcs full of trash? Check.

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Reply #6872 on: May 31, 2011, 04:56:07 AM

Just pally tanked ZA/ZG or the first time. Clean runs both times - it helps that my dps chars have been there before.

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Reply #6873 on: May 31, 2011, 05:53:13 AM

Dragonhawk guy has a natural 20% soft enrage is that's what you're talking about.

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Reply #6874 on: May 31, 2011, 09:39:55 AM

As for the new troll dungeons, FUCK THEM. Insta-gib mechanics? Check. Unavoidable raid wide damage to "challenge" the healer? Check. Frustrating enrage timers on bosses 3/4s of the way in, making you realize that, nope, this group just can't do this dungeon? Check. Long and sprawling with Noah's arcs full of trash? Check.
I dont think any of the bosses have an enrage "timer" per say.  A few of them use the classic "enrage at low health for the final stretch" mechanic.  Similarily, a few have the "kill X adds before p2, cause if you trigger p2 early, all remaining adds come at once mechanic".

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Reply #6875 on: May 31, 2011, 11:13:18 AM

Ya normal heroics are actually fun now, even though I am the only soul that interrupts at all in them, as a tank, or as a dps.

You and I should totally do a heroic together and we can glory in being the two people in all of WoW who remember where their interupt button is!

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Reply #6876 on: May 31, 2011, 12:59:42 PM

Hey, I had a whole 16 interrupts on a single fight in the last dungeon I ran, and I was the tank.

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Reply #6877 on: May 31, 2011, 12:59:59 PM

I interrupt all the time on my DK.  I even took the talent that makes my interrupt cost no runic power.

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Reply #6878 on: May 31, 2011, 01:34:14 PM

Dragonhawk guy has a natural 20% soft enrage is that's what you're talking about.

In Zulgurrub there is the guy who "kills" you and levels up, that is an enrage cause if he does it too much you're dead. Also, in Zul Aman there is the chap who steals your souls and stacks power on himself, and if you don't have the deeps to kill him in time, you guessed it.

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Reply #6879 on: May 31, 2011, 01:46:37 PM

So I've dusted off my prot pally and played it for the last 5 days or so. Cleared ZA/ZG with it but then got told off by a druid for stacking +stam gems. We still cleared but when I checked my avoidance it was only 67%. I reforged highest stats to mastery and got it to 71% but am still struggling for the other 30%. Maybe I've just been very lucky with my healers.

Should I re-gem the solid blues to mastery/stam or even straight mastery for the 4 non-colour specific slots?

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Reply #6880 on: May 31, 2011, 02:27:16 PM

Conventional Protadin wisdom says yes, put Greens in your blue slots and straight Mastrey in your Yellows/Prismatics.

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Reply #6881 on: May 31, 2011, 02:37:29 PM

Also the Heart of Thunder BLOOOOOOOOWS as a trinket. Dump that shit. I used Impetuous Query, ftw or the Baradin Hold one.

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Reply #6882 on: May 31, 2011, 02:39:54 PM

http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow is pretty good for "I've just dinged 85/resubbed/playing an old alt and don't know WTF" gearing et. al. tips.

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Reply #6883 on: May 31, 2011, 03:32:34 PM

Yeah, what Simond said.  It's a fantastic site that takes so much of the Bullshit away from your decisions regarding "Should I reforge this to .. " and "what's going to get me the best socket bonuses possible."

Considering their goal was to streamline stats and mechanics, they sure went a long way to fucking it all up and making it more complicated with reforging.  My little ilevel 339 pally has been stellar in Heroics since I started using the place, and I was struggling for both aggro and survival before.  (Most of my JP has gone to PVP honor & gear, so I know it wasn't an increase in iLevel that made this big of a difference. I've only gone up 6 points.)

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http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/usa/blackrock/jetamio#v1-z1-o01317q230
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Reply #6884 on: May 31, 2011, 03:46:32 PM

But... I love reforging. Once upon a time everyone might pass on a piece of gear because it was crit/haste instead of hit/haste or whatever. Now gear hardly ever rots, because reforging makes everything so much more flexible.

They also did succeed in making gearing simpler because of how powerful your 'primary' stat is compared to everything else (agi/str/int are the primary stats). While leveling through Outlands/Northrend on my Hunter these last few weeks, it was easy to see that often 'upgrades' weren't really upgrades at all. Often they had a higher ilvl, but the stat budget went into stats I didn't care about. An ilvl upgrade is almost always an upgrade in Cata because, even if the item has crit/haste instead of hit/haste, it still has more agi (str/int) so it's still the better item. I never have to break out a stat comparison sheet, I just pick the one that has more of my primary stat and reforge the secondary stats when I have time.
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Reply #6885 on: May 31, 2011, 04:00:44 PM

http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow is pretty good for "I've just dinged 85/resubbed/playing an old alt and don't know WTF" gearing et. al. tips.

Yeah, Ask Mr. Robot's great.  You'll eventually want to feed it weights from something more sophisticated though.

I think the thing with reforging is that it's just about the only system that lets you make your character "worse" instead of just "not as good".  I like it because that means that less gear is expressly useless, something that I grew to despise on my Disc Priest last expansion, but I don't know if this kind of a system is actually good for the game in general.

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Reply #6886 on: May 31, 2011, 04:03:17 PM

http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow is pretty good for "I've just dinged 85/resubbed/playing an old alt and don't know WTF" gearing et. al. tips.

Yeah, Ask Mr. Robot's great.  You'll eventually want to feed it weights from something more sophisticated though.

I think the thing with reforging is that it's just about the only system that lets you make your character "worse" instead of just "not as good".  I like it because that means that less gear is expressly useless, something that I grew to despise on my Disc Priest last expansion, but I don't know if this kind of a system is actually good for the game in general.

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Reply #6887 on: May 31, 2011, 04:14:47 PM


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Reply #6888 on: May 31, 2011, 04:17:02 PM

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Reply #6889 on: May 31, 2011, 07:10:01 PM

Purple?  swamp poop

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Reply #6890 on: May 31, 2011, 07:19:50 PM

That's a crappy pic; it looked dark blue in-game.

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Reply #6891 on: May 31, 2011, 09:11:31 PM

Ran ZG and didn't think it was too bad, doing ZA now. REVIEW TO COME I know you are waiting impatiently.

EDIT: Yeah so ZA seems simpler, compared to how it used to be, but the tricky bits (in both dungeons) are probably too tricky for PUGs at least for now, unless someone patiently explains everything every time. (In other words good luck.) The mechanics in the Z* heroics are much more raid-y than anything I've seen in a 5 man anywhere else.
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Reply #6892 on: June 01, 2011, 12:20:48 AM

Thanks for the site guys - looked at it and saw how badly I'd gemmed and cringed. I must have had bloody good healers who compensated for the lack of avoidance. I'm going to re-gem tonight.

I wondered about how bad heart of thunder was but it was better than the junk I had before it dropped - heroic runs to improve it I guess.

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Reply #6893 on: June 01, 2011, 02:36:34 AM

But... I love reforging.

Reforging is the shit. Without it, ferals wouldn't even be playable this expansion. Good-bye haste! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

Edit: Holy crap askmrrobot is awesome! Rawr is, kinda meh.
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Reply #6894 on: June 01, 2011, 10:56:01 AM

I also heart reforging. BEGONE, CRIT AND MASTERY, GIVE ME MOAR HASTE.

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