DCUO- will be out November 2. Can apply for beta on main site now.

[Trippy]

an ocean based expansion would be pretty sweet..

SHUT YOUR FILTHY MOUTH

There never has been and never will be a good underwater/ocean expansion or level for any game anywhere ever.

Kedge Keep was fun once you learned how to deal with the mob pathing and aggro issues. I spent many hours down there helping guild mates collect epic weapon parts.

[Cyrrex]

How odd.  This game is actualy surprisingly fun.  UI takes some...getting used to, but otherwise there's some good polish here.

Gamepad is a VAST improvement over kb/m.  Vast.

[Abelian75]

Although I tend to agree, Cataclysm begs to differ.

Heh heh, I had exactly the same reaction.  Both the general agreement and the immediate thought of the exception.  I immediately went to the underwater zone in Cata just to see if they'd managed to make it not suck complete ass like underwater areas in every single game in every genre ever (to include things like Mario Galaxy and Ninja Gaiden).  It didn't suck!  I was pleased.  The key seemed to be making you swim fast as all hell, have unlimited breath, let you stick to the floor if desired, and not have any shallow areas that make the camera management annoying as fuck.

[koro]

Sales are out.

150k to the PS3, 45k to the PC. Pretty sure the PC doesn't include digital downloads. So let's say 300k all up in the launch week.

Makes it interesting to look at those numbers and then at SOE's claims the title had sold out - looks like they didn't ship a ton of boxes to start off with.

Those sales numbers are actually better than I expected.

That's not to say they're good, though, and those 150k PS3 players won't last long, knowing the fickleness of the console multiplayer crowd.

[Strazos]

Picked it up on a whim. It's...interesting. I was expecting more in the graphics department. The UI is trash. The PvP seems...spammy and somewhat random, though it is fun to gang up on lvl30 gankers.

We'll see how it goes.

[Modern Angel]

Vashj'ir was godawful. Quests were one of three things and three things only:

1) Nagas are attacking! KILL NAGAS!
2) This person is hungry! Will you please go get him (insert seafood type here)
3) Haha we know you love vehicle fights and our terrible lore! Now you can enjoy both of them as we turn you into a naga and you play through interminably long flashback sequences!

All while ramping up the hyper on-rails aspect of the new zones to the highest degree in the entire expansion.

[Hawkbit]

Half thinking of buying this on a whim... If that's possible.  Dilemma:  ps3 or pc?  I want to sit on through with his one.  Do I need a keyboard?  Will I be using a kyb a lot on ps3?  Thanks.

[Morfiend]

Picked it up on a whim. It's...interesting. I was expecting more in the graphics department. The UI is trash. The PvP seems...spammy and somewhat random, though it is fun to gang up on lvl30 gankers.

We'll see how it goes.

From what I can tell, PVP gets much more involved when you get higher level with more combos. I have only just realized the extent of the combo system. It is pretty crazy.

Go to your weapon tree and mouse over some of the skills, then on the left side, it will show the combo that skill can unlock. What I didnt realize is that some skills actually unlock up to 3 different combos.

[jakonovski]

A quick tip to anyone using Ice: get Reflection ASAP. It's so worth it.

[lamaros]

Keep seeing all sorts of everyone playing this on steam, so it can't be so bad. Or are people still in the "it's new, let's give it a shot" mentality?

[Lakov_Sanite]

Vashj'ir was godawful. Quests were one of three things and three things only:

1) Nagas are attacking! KILL NAGAS!
2) This person is hungry! Will you please go get him (insert seafood type here)
3) Haha we know you love vehicle fights and our terrible lore! Now you can enjoy both of them as we turn you into a naga and you play through interminably long flashback sequences!

All while ramping up the hyper on-rails aspect of the new zones to the highest degree in the entire expansion.

^ minority opinion.

[Abelian75]

Vashj'ir was godawful. Quests were one of three things and three things only:

Not to completely sideline things, but just as a clarification I was speaking only of the actual swimming/underwater/camera control aspect of the zone, not the quests or anything.  I thought they did pretty well with that.

[stray]

Picked it up on a whim. It's...interesting. I was expecting more in the graphics department. The UI is trash. The PvP seems...spammy and somewhat random, though it is fun to gang up on lvl30 gankers.

We'll see how it goes.

Some weapons aren't even that good if you spam. You have to learn combos to make the staff worthwhile, for example. The aoes and stuns make it stand out. I haven't PVPed with that character, but I'm getting the impression that I would easily win against anyone who tried to spam me.

[Modern Angel]

Not to completely sideline things, but just as a clarification I was speaking only of the actual swimming/underwater/camera control aspect of the zone, not the quests or anything.  I thought they did pretty well with that.

I'll completely agree with that.

[Ingmar]

I liked the naga flashback quests a lot, actually, those are probably some of the best 'vehicle' quests they've ever done.

[UnSub]

A quick tip to anyone using Ice: get Reflection ASAP. It's so worth it.

All reflections are bugged and OP'ed as a result afaik.

Keep seeing all sorts of everyone playing this on steam, so it can't be so bad. Or are people still in the "it's new, let's give it a shot" mentality?

It's the first major release of the year and had very little competition in that launch week, so I think a lot of people are giving it a shot. And it is fun for while.

[Kageru]

I liked the naga flashback quests a lot, actually, those are probably some of the best 'vehicle' quests they've ever done.

Likewise. The way they used a single very visible foliage to make cave entrances more obvious (because a cave entrance is often some distance from the quest mark in the cave and blends in if you are off elevation) was good. Not brilliant, because it should be obvious, but it was something CO really needed.

[Threash]

I liked the naga flashback quests a lot, actually, those are probably some of the best 'vehicle' quests they've ever done.

Likewise. The way they used a single very visible foliage to make cave entrances more obvious (because a cave entrance is often some distance from the quest mark in the cave and blends in if you are off elevation) was good. Not brilliant, because it should be obvious, but it was something CO really needed.

I completely missed that.  Had a hell of a time finding cave entrances the entire time i was in vash, damnit.

[stray]

It's the first major release of the year and had very little competition in that launch week, so I think a lot of people are giving it a shot. And it is fun for while.

As for me, I haven't played anything since Age of Conan came out. I got tired of the genre so much that I didn't even see a reason to post at this site for awhile. I was looking forward to checking out SWTOR too, but this has entertained me enough. Most of these games are just plain underwhelming for me by design. Even in WoW, my highest character is 42. Suddenly, I'm finding myself wanting to do things in this game. Even solo.

[Sir T]

I think its stunning that people are concidering "didn't fucking crash and burn at launch" a stellar success.

[Malakili]

I think its stunning that people are concidering "didn't fucking crash and burn at launch" a stellar success.

Considering releases seem to have gotten worse and worse (APB anyone?) over the last couple years, anything that seems to trend in the other direction is worth mentioning.

[Modern Angel]

I don't consider it a stellar success or anything. I've got no intention of buying it, even though a lot of friends are gushing over it. I just think it's amazing that it didn't crash and burn since all indications were that this was going to be a launch failure of potentially historic, SOE destroying proportions. Big license, no testing, bad pub out of the beta, rushed release...

[Nebu]

Have about an hour in the game so far and it's... entertaining.  Some things that I've noticed:

1) The camera makes me insane.

2) Definitely intended for a console.  If you're on a PC, get a game controller and CALIBRATE IT using the settings/options menu on the login screen.

3) It's PURDY.

4) Less customizable than COH, but I enjoy getting drops. 

More later.  I'm going to spend the day playing it with a friend that knows the game well.  So far, seems worth playing for at least the free month.  Beyond that... not sure.

[jakonovski]

If this is true, my enthusiasm for this game just took a nose dive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgHLHXAxLZ8

[Nebu]

If this is true, my enthusiasm for this game just took a nose dive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgHLHXAxLZ8

Seems true.  I noticed an increase in damage when I rerolled and flew through the first mission.  I'll see if I can test it empirically tonight with a friend that also has flight.

[Threash]

If this is true, my enthusiasm for this game just took a nose dive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgHLHXAxLZ8

A bug? just wait till they fix it if its such a huge deal.

[Kageru]

yeah, that's the sort of obvious bug you find during beta. Otherwise people use it to power-level and then crush noobies.

[veredus]

Yeah, figured that out last night as my hand begged for mercy.  Isn't there an adapter I can buy to use my existing wireless 360 controller?

Also wired ones plug right in and are good to go.

[UnSub]

If this is true, my enthusiasm for this game just took a nose dive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgHLHXAxLZ8

Other bugs existing since beta include:

 - fire damage stacking when it shouldn't (although I believe a patch has made it less likely to happen, but there are workarounds)
 - reflection powers being OP'd, so that you do multiple damage back to the source
 - rapid stacking / execution of self-heals by healers

and I saw the other day reports of a stealth exploit that removes the slowness of that power and makes it permanent while attacking. Plus plenty of reports of lvl 30s lining up outside safe houses (and now early level mission areas) just waiting to gank newbs on PvP servers.

[stray]

Hah.. No wonder why my hand cannon/fire guy kicks so much ass. I guess..?

Fortunately, I've played the character mostly by myself on a PvE server. I have nothing to feel too guilty about. In fact, this inspires me to take advantage and level up more before it gets patched.   That said, I still don't find it as fun as my martial arts character, so whatever.

[jakonovski]

I tried it and sure enough, I got my ass beat down when I landed, but airborne I took out two dudes all by myself. This does explain a lot.

I think I'll stick to pve until a patch arrives. It should be soon: http://forums.station.sony.com/dcuopc/posts/list.m?start=150&topic_id=10327#98309

[stray]

This character does get knocked down enough though (at least with some enemies.. I'm 19 atm) - and he lacks a lot of control over fights.. so in a way, the differences aren't drastic. PVE wise at least.

[Triforcer]

I still don't know if there is enough endgame content, but the journey to max level for me is much more fun than in CO.  PVP server and impromptu street battles are fun too.

[Nebu]

Played three characters to level ~10 yesterday.  All heros, through the 3 different areas. 

- The game is much more fun that I had guessed.

- The story writing isn't half bad.

- The UI gets in the way of the fun. 

- This is definitely a console game, but having access to a few keyboard commands helped. 

- The names of other human players ruins the immersion.

- The game still has too many bugs.  WTF were people doing in beta?

- Spawn rates are great for high population but will suck when the low levels become depopulated.  When playing late at night, I was overrun by respawns more times than I can count. 

- Balance seems pretty terribad for pvp.  It will take 6 months to sort out IF the game lasts that long.

- I'm interested in seeing what the endgame is like.  I'm playing duo with a friend and the game is almost too chaotic to really enjoy solid teamwork.  Perhaps I just need more practice.

   

[Sky]

Keep seeing all sorts of everyone playing this on steam, so it can't be so bad. Or are people still in the "it's new, let's give it a shot" mentality?

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