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Reply #525 on: January 13, 2010, 03:52:28 AM

The only thing that really tweaked me about the movie after watching it a few times, was the timeframe.  Specificly, what kind of topography are we dealing with when it takes THREE MONTHS for a bunch of industrial grade, forrest destroying dozers to cross a distance that their aircraft seem to be able to cover in about 2 or 3 hours......

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Reply #526 on: January 13, 2010, 11:08:34 AM

Also the scientists were not part of the mining operation, they just had their labs in the mining base since it was probably safest for the humans on that planet to stick together.  the avatars themselves weren't built specifically for the mining companies usage though the company may have been funding the project, hence the pull they had.

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Reply #527 on: January 13, 2010, 01:15:56 PM

The only thing that really tweaked me about the movie after watching it a few times, was the timeframe.  Specificly, what kind of topography are we dealing with when it takes THREE MONTHS for a bunch of industrial grade, forrest destroying dozers to cross a distance that their aircraft seem to be able to cover in about 2 or 3 hours......

Also, why didn't they just take those eagles to Mount Doom?

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Reply #528 on: January 13, 2010, 03:21:45 PM

Because the eagles were up north helping the Lorien elves defeat Dol Guldur.
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Reply #529 on: January 13, 2010, 03:39:56 PM

It worries me about the mindsets of people that they try and derive some sense from what was quite obviously an allegorical fairy tale. I know Santa Claus doesn't exist, but I think I'm over picking holes in the fact that it's impossible for a fat dude to make it around the world in one night and climb down a gazillion chimneys.

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Reply #530 on: January 13, 2010, 04:35:40 PM

I know Santa Claus doesn't exist

Wait, what?

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Reply #531 on: January 13, 2010, 07:33:56 PM

Also, why didn't they just take those eagles to Mount Doom?

Flocks of crows spy for Sauron.  Presumably they would also be willing to swarm an eagle.  Gandalf also seems to be aware of the Ringwraith's flying mounts earlier than everyone else too.
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Reply #532 on: January 13, 2010, 07:42:12 PM

Also, why didn't they just take those eagles to Mount Doom?

Flocks of crows spy for Sauron.  Presumably they would also be willing to swarm an eagle.  Gandalf also seems to be aware of the Ringwraith's flying mounts earlier than everyone else too.

Because the books would have been about 100 pages long and the trilogy would be one 90 minute movie.

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Reply #533 on: January 13, 2010, 07:49:13 PM

Though Sauron (with ring on finger) casting hobbits into the Cracks of Doom would have been a good ending too.
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Reply #534 on: January 13, 2010, 08:49:42 PM

The only thing that really tweaked me about the movie after watching it a few times, was the timeframe.  Specificly, what kind of topography are we dealing with when it takes THREE MONTHS for a bunch of industrial grade, forrest destroying dozers to cross a distance that their aircraft seem to be able to cover in about 2 or 3 hours......

Also, why didn't they just take those eagles to Mount Doom?

It's specifically stated by the eagles that they can't carry large burdens for long distances, which is why they only carry Gandalf to Meduseld where he gets Shadowfax.  Besides which you had flying Ring-wraiths, flocks of large crows (ever see the Birds?), and likely more of the bird-dragon things that the Ring-Wraiths traveled on.  And Sauron can control the weather.  And you'd be targeted by whatever Sauron can do from Barad-dur making the last leg of the journey across Mordor.

That's if the eagles would even do it.  They liked Gandalf and they never helped him out too much.  They didn't particularly like many other people.

It's pretty well dealt with in the books.
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Reply #535 on: January 13, 2010, 09:19:38 PM

Also, why didn't they just take those eagles to Mount Doom?

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Reply #536 on: January 14, 2010, 03:32:12 AM

This seems appropriate.

Also, must LOTR infect every thread in this forum? Is a Tolkien-based debate going to pop up in "The Hangover" thread?

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Reply #537 on: January 14, 2010, 03:36:36 AM

Hangover totally rips off Tolkien!  A group travels to a strange land and have frightening encounters; tiger, cops, Mike Tyson.
One even has the BURDEN of carrying a baby, something small and, dare I say PRECIOUS?  I think you know where I'm going with THAT statement yessir.

Tolkien's estate should sue their uncreative asses off.
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Reply #538 on: January 14, 2010, 03:38:42 AM

The only thing that really tweaked me about the movie after watching it a few times, was the timeframe.  Specificly, what kind of topography are we dealing with when it takes THREE MONTHS for a bunch of industrial grade, forrest destroying dozers to cross a distance that their aircraft seem to be able to cover in about 2 or 3 hours......

Also, why didn't they just take those eagles to Mount Doom?

It's specifically stated by the eagles that they can't carry large burdens for long distances, which is why they only carry Gandalf to Meduseld where he gets Shadowfax.  Besides which you had flying Ring-wraiths, flocks of large crows (ever see the Birds?), and likely more of the bird-dragon things that the Ring-Wraiths traveled on.  And Sauron can control the weather.  And you'd be targeted by whatever Sauron can do from Barad-dur making the last leg of the journey across Mordor.

That's if the eagles would even do it.  They liked Gandalf and they never helped him out too much.  They didn't particularly like many other people.

It's pretty well dealt with in the books.


So what you're saying is Sauron had established Air Superiority over Mordor.  Too bad he failed to use combined tactics to the fullest on his own gates.

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Reply #539 on: January 14, 2010, 09:08:47 AM

Also, why didn't they just take those eagles to Mount Doom?

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Reply #540 on: January 14, 2010, 11:52:07 AM

Finally went to see this last night, I enjoyed it.

A Wednesday night 7:45 PM showing in Bumfuck, Alaska. Temperature: -25.

The theater was sold out.

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Reply #541 on: January 14, 2010, 12:33:50 PM

So now this is over, can Cameron hurry up with the Battle Angel Alita movie he's been mumbling about?  DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS

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Reply #542 on: January 14, 2010, 02:31:40 PM

I imagine he can do whatever he wants. After Titanic he took a break and did some undersea adventuring.

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Reply #543 on: January 14, 2010, 03:09:46 PM

I think the time has finally come for a Space Ghost movie.

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Reply #544 on: January 14, 2010, 04:45:12 PM

So now this is over, can Cameron hurry up with the Battle Angel Alita movie he's been mumbling about?  DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS
Oh holy god, thank you.  I saw the anime version of that a long long long time ago.  I had totally forgotten what its name was and could only remember bits of the plot and a few scenes from it.  But trying to remember what the name of it was has been bugging the shit out of me for years.

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Reply #545 on: January 14, 2010, 05:45:44 PM

I imagine he can do whatever he wants. After Titanic he took a break and did some undersea adventuring.

Turns out that was mostly research for creating a believable and working alien environment in Avatar. While I never understood his obsession with the Titanic and found the movie of the same barely tollerable, I will never again question the man's motives when it comes to fleshing out his ideas, literally from the bottom of the sea up.

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Reply #546 on: January 14, 2010, 07:56:01 PM

They also explained why they blew up the big tree house because it was sitting on top of the largest deposit of this shit on the whole planet, or at least in the general area. 
That was my beef. It wasn't the largest deposit on the whole planet, just the biggest within 200 klicks (he literally said "within 200 klicks"). Yea, they were fairly established in one spot. They were there even before the one ship of new marines showed up. And that base didn't look very mobile. And yes, the movie made it very clear that the Americans thought the natives were basically irrelevant and powerless. But it would have made more sense to scan the whole planet first (or at least change that line of dialog to say it was biggest on the whole planet) and then determine that the World Tree had it all under it.

Also the scientists were not part of the mining operation, they just had their labs in the mining base since it was probably safest for the humans on that planet to stick together.  the avatars themselves weren't built specifically for the mining companies usage though the company may have been funding the project, hence the pull they had.
I thought the scientists were being funded by the company?

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Reply #547 on: January 14, 2010, 11:23:41 PM

Was poking around the Colonel's imdb page and he was Ike Clanton in Tombstone.  Dude is nails.

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Reply #548 on: January 15, 2010, 08:48:13 AM

Was poking around the Colonel's imdb page and he was Ike Clanton in Tombstone.  Dude is nails.

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Reply #549 on: January 15, 2010, 08:52:09 AM

Can anyone tell me the level of gore/violence in this flick? Is there tons of decaying bodies or focused on medical scenes (like stitches) or Saving Private Ryan level of arm waving?

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Reply #550 on: January 15, 2010, 09:13:24 AM

Can anyone tell me the level of gore/violence in this flick? Is there tons of decaying bodies or focused on medical scenes (like stitches) or Saving Private Ryan level of arm waving?

Why are you suddenly interested in the violence level of movies?

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Reply #551 on: January 15, 2010, 10:44:31 AM

Can anyone tell me the level of gore/violence in this flick? Is there tons of decaying bodies or focused on medical scenes (like stitches) or Saving Private Ryan level of arm waving?

Why are you suddenly interested in the violence level of movies?

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Reply #552 on: January 15, 2010, 10:53:37 AM

The violence is as cartoony as the concept of blue people running around in the forest, but the emotion of genocide and mass destruction is left intact.

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Reply #553 on: January 15, 2010, 11:02:43 AM

Can anyone tell me the level of gore/violence in this flick? Is there tons of decaying bodies or focused on medical scenes (like stitches) or Saving Private Ryan level of arm waving?

Why are you suddenly interested in the violence level of movies?

Because I need to screen things before I take my Girl friend to see it  DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS

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Reply #554 on: January 15, 2010, 11:03:30 AM

Can anyone tell me the level of gore/violence in this flick? Is there tons of decaying bodies or focused on medical scenes (like stitches) or Saving Private Ryan level of arm waving?

Why are you suddenly interested in the violence level of movies?

Because I need to screen things before I take my Girl friend to see it  DRILLING AND WOMANLINESS

Stop dating girls that can't get into R movies and start dating women.

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Reply #555 on: January 15, 2010, 12:47:32 PM

Also, why didn't they just take those eagles to Mount Doom?

I know I wouldn't want to lug some giant eagle to mount doom. They're heavy and scratch at your eyes when you try to carry them.
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Reply #556 on: January 15, 2010, 03:28:22 PM

Can anyone tell me the level of gore/violence in this flick? Is there tons of decaying bodies or focused on medical scenes (like stitches) or Saving Private Ryan level of arm waving?

Stars Wars levels.. lots of fighting things blowing up and people/ smurfs getting shot but you've got to ask, "What's blood?"

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Reply #557 on: January 15, 2010, 04:45:27 PM

The violence is as cartoony as the concept of blue people running around in the forest, but the emotion of genocide and mass destruction is left intact.

This. Mostly indirect and implied. Final mano a mano is a bit graphic.

The only "violence" I really reacted to was when the felled the world tree.  Because that was the only thing in the movie I cared about  awesome, for real
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Reply #558 on: January 15, 2010, 05:25:55 PM

It should be noted that that tree was called the 'home' tree, not the 'world tree', and that it was far from unique.  There were multiple shots where similarly large trees rising from the forest could be seen far in the distance - at least one of which included the home tree that the movie focused on, so it is certain they were other trees like it, and not the one and only tree of its kind.

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Reply #559 on: January 15, 2010, 05:30:19 PM

Yea, someone else mentioned that in the thread too. I'm purposely ignoring it, tbh. It's World Tree for me because if the space marines didn't shoot it down, Archimonde woulda climbed up it.
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