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Reply #6405 on: May 30, 2011, 06:11:54 AM

Troopers are going to rock faces. I have no idea what class you are looking at if you don't think so.

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Reply #6406 on: May 30, 2011, 09:36:13 AM

Well, I'm rolling Jedi Sentinel and hacking people to death with twin lightsabers and the force. The only thing I don't love about it is that probably like a skillion other people will be doing the same thing.
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Reply #6407 on: May 30, 2011, 11:52:58 AM

Since Force-users are 50% of the classes I'd say you're right.
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Reply #6408 on: May 30, 2011, 12:18:53 PM

It's less that, more so that expecting most players not to choose "Jedi, Melee Damage Dealer" in a Star Wars MMO is... a bit unrealistic.

Doesn't matter though, because I can heal with a Bounty Hunter (read: non-Jedi Ranged Damage, which I thought I'd be stuck with).  All that matters.

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Reply #6409 on: May 30, 2011, 12:26:02 PM

Since Force-users are 50% of the classes I'd say you're right.

I mean Jedi Sentinel, in particular. I would bet that dual-wielding jedi is going to be the absolute most populous class.
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Reply #6410 on: May 30, 2011, 01:02:55 PM

The only thing I don't love about it is that probably like a skillion other people will be doing the same thing.

That will happen but when people play the game longer they'll get over the "ooo jedi" factor and roll different classes.
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Reply #6411 on: May 30, 2011, 01:28:44 PM

Pretty sure our group is going to be like 14 smugglers and Fordel's trooper.

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Reply #6412 on: May 30, 2011, 01:35:20 PM

That will happen but when people play the game longer they'll get over the "ooo jedi" factor and roll different classes.

Not me! For all the abuse they've taken, Jedi are still a cool concept, and lightsabers are pretty kickin' rad. I'll happily stab people in the face with lightsabers until the end of days!
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Reply #6413 on: May 30, 2011, 03:38:08 PM

Pretty sure our group is going to be like 14 smugglers and Fordel's trooper.


You're just sad you can't be a protocol droid.

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Reply #6414 on: May 30, 2011, 04:23:27 PM

Not me! For all the abuse they've taken, Jedi are still a cool concept, and lightsabers are pretty kickin' rad. I'll happily stab people in the face with lightsabers until the end of days!

And that's about how long it will take to kill the average mob with a lghtsaber.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?



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Reply #6415 on: May 30, 2011, 04:39:22 PM

Pretty sure our group is going to be like 14 smugglers and Fordel's trooper.
You're just sad you can't be a protocol droid.

Of course, because mastery of language is truly the greatest weapon.

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Reply #6416 on: May 30, 2011, 09:08:42 PM

Does this game allow you to own droids? It hardly seems Star Wars unless half the people have a droid trundling aloing behind them.
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Reply #6417 on: May 30, 2011, 09:11:52 PM

Does this game allow you to own droids? It hardly seems Star Wars unless half the people have a droid trundling aloing behind them.

There's at least one droid companion.

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Reply #6418 on: May 30, 2011, 11:02:57 PM

I want an assassin droid.

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Reply #6419 on: May 31, 2011, 01:25:30 AM

Pretty sure our group is going to be like 14 smugglers and Fordel's trooper.


You're just sad you can't be a protocol droid.

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Reply #6420 on: May 31, 2011, 01:44:29 AM

Pretty sure our group is going to be like 14 smugglers and Fordel's trooper.
You're just sad you can't be a protocol droid.

Of course, because mastery of language is truly the greatest weapon.

Yeah, that PA is pretty much exactly how Ingmar feels.

I'm totally going to be one of the 14 smugglers. I don't care who knows it!

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Reply #6421 on: May 31, 2011, 03:03:26 AM

I want an assassin droid.
I want a useful droid. As in a droid I can say "Droid, be a healer because screw this whole LFG thing" or "Droid, be a pocket tank".

Then again, I've always been drawn to pet classes.
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Reply #6422 on: May 31, 2011, 06:00:30 AM

I want a useful droid. As in a droid I can say "Droid, be a healer because screw this whole LFG thing" or "Droid, be a pocket tank".

Then again, I've always been drawn to pet classes.

That's what the companion system is supposed to be, that little extra roundedness you need for your character.  With the exception that you can't use them in groups.  I read that I think you can get at least 4 different companions (though I think you can only take 1 on a mission at a time).  So, it should be pretty flexible for filling whatever needs you're missing.

My favorite thing announced about them though is that you can send one off on a collection mission to go collect the crafting supplies you need and then have another one of them craft the item you want while you're off doing other things.

Also, cyborg is one of the race options so, yeah, pretty much a protocol droid.

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Reply #6423 on: May 31, 2011, 06:04:59 AM

If they let me be an R2 unit, I might play the game.

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Reply #6424 on: May 31, 2011, 06:05:11 AM

I want a useful droid. As in a droid I can say "Droid, be a healer because screw this whole LFG thing" or "Droid, be a pocket tank".

Then again, I've always been drawn to pet classes.

That's what the companion system is supposed to be, that little extra roundedness you need for your character.  You can even use them in flashpoint/dungeons groups to fill in missing players.  They're not as powerful as a human player, but you could essentially two-man a dungeon with each of you bringing a companion.  I read that I think you can get at least 4 different companions (though I think you can only take 1 on a mission at a time).  So, it should be pretty flexible for filling whatever needs you're missing.

My favorite thing announced about them though is that you can send one off on a collection mission to go collect the crafting supplies you need and then have another one of them craft the item you want while you're off doing other things.

Also, cyborg is one of the race options so, yeah, pretty much a protocol droid.

FTFY, reference: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=300223#anchor7

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Reply #6425 on: May 31, 2011, 06:07:18 AM

Good, the last thing I had heard was they were a no go for groups.  I'm glad it's not true.

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Reply #6426 on: May 31, 2011, 08:22:56 AM

Pretty sure our group is going to be like 14 smugglers and Fordel's trooper.
You're just sad you can't be a protocol droid.

Of course, because mastery of language is truly the greatest weapon.

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Reply #6427 on: May 31, 2011, 08:37:10 AM

I want an assassin droid.
I want a useful droid. As in a droid I can say "Droid, be a healer because screw this whole LFG thing" or "Droid, be a pocket tank".

Then again, I've always been drawn to pet classes.

If you like pet classes then you should like swtor. Every class has companions and other than some specific areas you likely will always have one with.
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Reply #6428 on: May 31, 2011, 08:42:51 AM

Have we decided what kind of server the Bat Country guilds are going to be on yet?  PVE, PVP, or RP?
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Reply #6429 on: May 31, 2011, 08:46:41 AM

This game has PVP?
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Reply #6430 on: May 31, 2011, 08:52:29 AM

According to the link someone posted a few messages up those are the server types that will be available.
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Reply #6431 on: May 31, 2011, 08:57:17 AM

Have we decided what kind of server the Bat Country guilds are going to be on yet?  PVE, PVP, or RP?
The only thing that has been decided is that whatever we decide Schild initially go long with it then undercut it by starting a guild on another server with a crazy theme.

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Reply #6432 on: May 31, 2011, 09:30:27 AM

This game has PVP?

According to sources-that-which-could-be-easily-Googled-the-shit-out-of (along with the link I put up earlier to the official site), the beta is and has always been open PvP.

For Battlegrounds, there won't be level brackets.  Everyone of every level will just queue up together, and if you're less than 50, you'll get sidekicked up to 48-49.
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Reply #6433 on: May 31, 2011, 09:41:40 AM

Have we decided what kind of server the Bat Country guilds are going to be on yet?  PVE, PVP, or RP?
http://www.swtor.com/guilds/7040/bat-country

Imperial RP, though we should also set up a Republic chapter on the same server. I like the Bioware idea of setting up a guild pre-launch, if we get enough pre-order members it picks the server for us, bypassing the first round of server pick chaos.

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Reply #6434 on: May 31, 2011, 10:16:40 AM

BC has a lot of Imp Agents.  Guess it's Bounty Hunter/ Whatever Empire Commando is for me.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #6435 on: May 31, 2011, 10:44:12 AM


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Reply #6436 on: May 31, 2011, 11:54:47 AM

Morbo demands less talk of droids and more talk of devs bashing their community with COMMON SENSE!

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=6536260#edit6536260

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Right now, we do not allow players to change gear or weaponry in combat. We just didn't think that kind of gear juggling added a lot to the combat.

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So you mean if I was looking through my inventory without a lightsaber equipped, if something attacks me I'm not allowed to equip any weapon until I run away several miles like a little girl? That doesn't sound very fun at all.

Note - I'm talking about weapons, not clothing.
It's pretty much impossible to not have a weapon equipped. You'd have to work for that. Sure, you can unequip a weapon and not equip a new one, but there's no compelling reason to do so .. even less outside in the wilderness where you're likely to get jumped.

If you find a new weapon, you can just swap it out, never leaving you at a point where you don't have a weapon.

Switching weapons to maximize stats is not the kind of gameplay we want to encourage. It's tedious and not fun for the overwhelming majority of players, and since some players would feel compelled to engage in the behavior if it offered a benefit, regardless how tedious and unfun it was, we just disallow it, period.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=6553501#edit6553501

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What if i equipt a gray by mistake, and get jumped so i cant eqipt a proper weapon?

Seriously, Almost all MMOs let you change weapons but not gear in combat, one of them being the biggest MMO, and another being the other SW MMOi havent heard of that kind of exploit in either.
Then you will pay for your mistake by fighting one combat with said gray weapon, simple as that, bitches.

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Reply #6437 on: May 31, 2011, 12:07:29 PM

Seems like kind of stupid thing to get into a lather over.
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Reply #6438 on: May 31, 2011, 12:12:44 PM

Seems like kind of stupid thing to get into a lather over.

Perhaps for the common man.  The 2% hardcore crowd though, this is pretty devastating, as weapon swapping on-the-fly is one of many min-max tactics used to try and 'sploit encounters and squeeze out every last drop of potential DPS. 

"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."

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Reply #6439 on: May 31, 2011, 12:23:09 PM

Well, in that same link you gave us earlier they specifically say that TOR isn't designed to appeal to the hardcore. The hardcore guys are the ones all worried about not being able to bypass quest text and voice overs in case it slows down their access to end game raiding.

The prospect of not playing with those people is something I'm somehow able to bear up under.
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