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Topic: State of The Game - Mark Jacobs (Read 700221 times)
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Ashmodai
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Lowering dps isn't the solution. You nerf dps by raising resistances and increasing hps.
Same effect with one being more acceptible than the other to the unwashed masses.
Well, if resistances go up, incoming damage per second goes down, so yeah, I agree with you - same effect. I was just trying to covey that buffing the weaker classes to the level of the stronger ones in a vacuum absent of any other changes would be a cure worse than the disease. |
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Maladee
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No matter what you do, someone will scream. That's the nature of MMO's. I think that MJ needs to stop talking and just DO. Implement changes as rapidly as it is feasible and employ a number of reliable testers to ensure that these releases pass muster before being shipped to the masses.
The game was shipped too early and it's suffering for it. Not much to do but look forward.
This I agree with. Especially the bolded part. I know it's a live game, but there are a ton, really, a ton of game breaking problems with overall balance and playability. Cherrypicking them off slowly a small patch at a time isn't the solution here, they need to be bold and implement fixes as fast as they possibly can, large patches that yes, might have the possibility of breaking things, but will have a far less detrimental effect on the player base who will realize they are actually trying to fix the game than doing nothing or more carefully implementing changes more slowly. There's just way too much to fix to do what most developers do, which is slowly hack away at the problems with weekly patches that address 1-2 major issues each, when the game has a laundry list of 20, 30+ or how many ever major problems that need addressing. Doing that leads to subscribers trickling away, which leads to lower populations, which introduces a whole new set of issues, and the loss of players just snowballs into more loss of players. This. (I knew if I waited long enough, someone would say what I was thinking so it made more sense than the spastic muddle I was trying to verbalize!) |
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« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 09:39:28 AM by Maladee »
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Morfiend
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T4 is terrible atm, it's a spam cc fest, and especially ruined by electromagnet/magnetic rift, which are possibly the two most ill-thought out abilities to ever be given to any classes in any MMO, ever. I'd like to hear about contenders for that dubious honor if anyone disagrees with that statement, they might provide me with a few laughs.
Doc buffs and Debuffs in SWG. Oh Snap, we have WAR and SWG in one thread. Lets watch it hit 200 pages. |
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Nebu
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Doc buffs and Debuffs in SWG. Oh Snap, we have WAR and SWG in one thread. Lets watch it hit 200 pages.
First person to mention NGE or collision detection "gets it".  |
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Ashmodai
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Doc buffs and Debuffs in SWG. Oh Snap, we have WAR and SWG in one thread. Lets watch it hit 200 pages.
A strong contender I concede you that, sir. |
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WindupAtheist
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It's only missing one thing... except thatEA wanted to shut down UO when they gave it to us I bet that would have happened a long time ago if it weren't for wonderful glorious TRAMMEL!  |
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Ard
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Doc buffs and Debuffs in SWG. Oh Snap, we have WAR and SWG in one thread. Lets watch it hit 200 pages.
First person to mention NGE or collision detection "gets it". Collision detection... ugh I tried, Burma Shave |
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Slayerik
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It's only missing one thing... except thatEA wanted to shut down UO when they gave it to us I bet that would have happened a long time ago if it weren't for wonderful glorious TRAMMEL!  HAY GUYZ WHATS GOIN ON N HERE? |
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schild
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lac
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Soln
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the opportunity for evil is just delicious
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can we at least add  to the gallery for something good to have come out of this? |
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Slayerik
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don't be an asshat
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« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 11:20:16 AM by schild »
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"I have more qualifications than Jesus and earn more than this whole board put together. My ego is huge and my modesty non-existant." -Ironwood
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Seanzor
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The Great American Novel
You should steal that and get it published, you'll never have to work another day in your life. |
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Lantyssa
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First person to mention NGE or collision detection "gets it". So the second person is safe?  |
Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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Thorgald
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Not making exceptions even if I agree. Sorry, read the stickies.
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« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 12:57:08 PM by schild »
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Goreschach
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can we at least add to the gallery for something good to have come out of this? This needs to happen. Something must come of all the golden thread/new religion shitola from the first couple pages. |
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Simond
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It's only missing one thing... except thatEA wanted to shut down UO when they gave it to us I bet that would have happened a long time ago if it weren't for wonderful glorious TRAMMEL! Needs more crazy population graphs. And SirBruce. |
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fefner
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Try a line break some time.
Also, starfucking.
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« Last Edit: October 25, 2008, 09:30:50 AM by schild »
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M194
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Don't post, don't read, but here's some info.
/boggle
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« Last Edit: October 25, 2008, 09:29:28 AM by schild »
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Slyfeind
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Ah damn, after moving this to the Graveyard, it looked like it turned away the freaks.
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khaine
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"Hey, guys. I'm not a forum poster here, not even a forum reader here."
Has there been a better first line for a first post ? I mean if that doesn't snag you and make you realize how insightful and intelligent of a post is likely to follow after that statement I'm not sure what will
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UnSub
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If you would like proof that Mark is wise about this, I offer my own preferences as testimony.
Que? |
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Maladee
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Hey, guys. I'm not a forum poster here, not even a forum reader here. I am here because someone pointed this whole discussion out to me - but other than that, I'm just a player of Warhammer Online.
If you would like proof that Mark is wise about this, I offer my own preferences as testimony. I'm still going to prefer scenarios to open RVR due to time restraints in my life and how long I'm able to play WAR in each sitting.
I don't really have anything else to say because most of the posts above are from less than a handful of gamers and, to Mark, I don't know why you'd reply to these kinds of posts.
Glad to see you appreciate feedback and care for the community - but you, yourself, said "way off base" therefore - let it go. Do your job and expect people to be unhappy. These guys didn't Design Warhammer, don't let these guys Change Warhammer.
Huh? After I was finished giggling to myself about the ego, I tried to figure out if I perhaps misread this post...then I gave up and giggled more. So what I'm seeing is that nothing should change because the people who complain didn't design the game? In the reality where I live, the players are also the payers! Ipso facto, paying attention to what they think and *gasp* making changes keeps them playing and therefore pays those who design the game! Even if I agreed with you wholeheartedly on this one, I'd still think you needed to go back and rethink your line of reasoning. By the way...how many gamers DOES it take to make a handful?  |
It's not that I don't like people. It's just that when I'm in the company of others - even my nearest and dearest - there always comes a moment when I'd rather be reading a book. — Maureen Corrigan
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UnSub
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By the way...how many gamers DOES it take to make a handful? Male or female ? |
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WindupAtheist
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A retarded Warhammer noob being flamed by a seemingly not-retarded one. Hmm.
I'm really starting to think the boat was missed in just culling all the retarded ones. I think Schild & Co. should have made them all fight it out in some sort of gladiatorial pit. Maybe the field could have been winnowed down until only one remained, a sort of idiot-champion of the great "Mark Jacobs look at MEEEE!" invasion of '08. Then they could go up against Grunk, AW, and maybe that "heavy hitters" guy in a four-way cage match of doom.
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"You're just a dick who quotes himself in his sig." -- Schild
"Yeah, it's pretty awesome." -- Me
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Maladee
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By the way...how many gamers DOES it take to make a handful? Male or female ? One should assume that all pixels are male until proven otherwise! The pie is a lie!...or something. (should I say "teehee" or something?)  @WUA: As a perma-noob, I think hair-pulling is key to a successful fight. |
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« Last Edit: October 25, 2008, 10:10:10 AM by Maladee »
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It's not that I don't like people. It's just that when I'm in the company of others - even my nearest and dearest - there always comes a moment when I'd rather be reading a book. — Maureen Corrigan
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Nevermore
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A retarded Warhammer noob being flamed by a seemingly not-retarded one. Hmm.
I'm really starting to think the boat was missed in just culling all the retarded ones. I think Schild & Co. should have made them all fight it out in some sort of gladiatorial pit. Maybe the field could have been winnowed down until only one remained, a sort of idiot-champion of the great "Mark Jacobs look at MEEEE!" invasion of '08. Then they could go up against Grunk, AW, and maybe that "heavy hitters" guy in a four-way cage match of doom.
Two noobs enter, one noob leaves! |
Over and out.
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lac
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This will be the biggest graveyard thread ever, won't it  |
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Venkman
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This will be the biggest graveyard thread ever, won't it Please. This one has a looong way to go. |
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mol
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A retarded Warhammer noob being flamed by a seemingly not-retarded one. Hmm.
I'm really starting to think the boat was missed in just culling all the retarded ones. I think Schild & Co. should have made them all fight it out in some sort of gladiatorial pit. Maybe the field could have been winnowed down until only one remained, a sort of idiot-champion of the great "Mark Jacobs look at MEEEE!" invasion of '08. Then they could go up against Grunk, AW, and maybe that "heavy hitters" guy in a four-way cage match of doom.
Too homoerotic. |
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UnSub
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A retarded Warhammer noob being flamed by a seemingly not-retarded one. Hmm.
I'm really starting to think the boat was missed in just culling all the retarded ones. I think Schild & Co. should have made them all fight it out in some sort of gladiatorial pit. Maybe the field could have been winnowed down until only one remained, a sort of idiot-champion of the great "Mark Jacobs look at MEEEE!" invasion of '08. Then they could go up against Grunk, AW, and maybe that "heavy hitters" guy in a four-way cage match of doom.
I'm happy how things have turned out - lots of amusement and some of the new blood might be interesting if they hang around. F13 is better off not being the cranky old men and women of the internet all the time. |
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Meldrath
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What the hell was this? Some sort of semi-roleplaying?
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« Last Edit: October 26, 2008, 06:14:02 AM by schild »
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mol
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What the hell was this? Some sort of semi-roleplaying?
As one of the new people I just want to disclose that I am both cranky, and old. |
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WindupAtheist
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Someone made an RP post on f13 and you DELETED it? You should have denned it so we could all see.  |
"You're just a dick who quotes himself in his sig." -- Schild
"Yeah, it's pretty awesome." -- Me
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Fabricated
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Someone made an RP post on f13 and you DELETED it? You should have denned it so we could all see. That's just how we roll. *puts on sunglasses, rides motorcycle out of thread* |
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