Star Trek Online: Here We Go Again!

[Modern Angel]

A little bird told me this is precautionary while they do server related stuff, not a portent of things to come.

[Tannhauser]

I'm currently at the envious position of 2100 out of 2145 

Just got back from a shittastic weekend in D.C. and all I wanted to do was play some STO.  Of course I knew there would be problems but I'm still disappointed.
Oh and my basement flooded while I was away so I got that going for me, which is nice.

I stand by my 2mil box sales.  If Conan can pull 1 mil, Trek can easily do double that.

[Ghambit]

A little bird told me this is precautionary while they do server related stuff, not a portent of things to come.

http://www.mmoserverstatus.com/star_trek_online
You're probably right.  When all of today's stuff started they were actually running about 1/4 the necessary servers and instituted the queue... instead of bringing the servers down altogether like they have been.

[Shatter]

*eats popcorn and watches the lol*

[01101010]

*eats popcorn and watches the lulz*

New and improved now! 

[Shatter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRnl2vbLDVc&hd=1

[Azaroth]

The fact that the video exists is funny.

The video itself isn't.

[Lantyssa]

Welp, looks like their server architecture (as theorized) wasnt up to the task.  Now there are queues in the 1000's of people (when the queue system is working) and last I checked they just werent letting people online at all (not even a queue).

Is it killing the Champions' servers, too, like it was in beta?

[Malakili]

Welp, looks like their server architecture (as theorized) wasnt up to the task.  Now there are queues in the 1000's of people (when the queue system is working) and last I checked they just werent letting people online at all (not even a queue).

Is it killing the Champions' servers, too, like it was in beta?

Judging by the Champions forums not mentioning it, probably not.

[Furiously]

Make your phasers PINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just type in:

/powerhue 0 320

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/HueScale.svg/2000px-HueScale.svg.png
For all 360 of your options.

[caladein]

Are you supposed to be able to do that, or is that just an accidental carry-over from Champions?

If the former, I want my black lasers dammit.

[Malakili]

Are you supposed to be able to do that, or is that just an accidental carry-over from Champions?

If the former, I want my black lasers dammit.

Don't worry, you can't do black and white powers in Champions.  Or maybe you can now, but you couldn't last time I cared enough to check.

[Shatter]

and it begins continues

http://www.startrekonline.com/store

Want to play Klingon or Ferengi races as federation, no problem just visit the C-store!

[Montague]

and it begins continues

http://www.startrekonline.com/store

Want to play Klingon or Ferengi races as federation, no problem just visit the C-store!

I think (not completely sure) that you get Cryptic points for preordering, so that may be more of a bonus than a moneygrab.

[Nebu]

Even if it were a money grab, it would be a decent idea.  Imagine if Blizzard had two human forms as their baseline and required additional payment to play a race other than those human archetypes.  They would likely have double the money hats. 

[Montague]

The latest Cryptic technical casualty is the account server. Atari released their keys about a half hour ago and I tried to enter the serial number - said page not available, here read a comic instead. 

[Malakili]

Thats pretty unfortunate re: the STO C-Store.  With Champions at leas they started with pure fluff (action figures), and added in some costume choices and such later on, I actually still don't have a problem with how they've handled the Champions c-store.  However, with pre-set races being there on launch day, its as if they really wanted to simply cash grab. especially with regards to the Klingon in federation thing, i have to imagine a lot of people want that.

[Furiously]

"The Account service is temporarily down, please try again at a later time."

Launch is going as I expected.

[Ghambit]

Not only did Cryptic screw up their server allocations regarding gameplay, but it seems they did the same thing on the subscription/validation end.  Pretty much no one is even able to redeem their retail keys, let alone get their pre-order bonuses (which as time goes by become more and more meaningless).  The mainpage activation link is dead and any workarounds dont work either.  Those who stood in Gamestop lines last night were greeted with pretty much nothing once they tried to activate.  (since Cryptic thought it wise to open the gates today instead of late last night)

I gotta say again that this has to be the worst headstart (and now Launch) I've had since the ol' WoW and SwG days.  This shit is sophomoric.  And pretty much every important decision has been bad it seems, from design to launch.  I blame Emmert's cheap ass... when is he gonna get ran outta town anyways?  I'd rather have RG than this douche.

[Shatter]

Not only did Cryptic screw up their server allocations regarding gameplay, but it seems they did the same thing on the subscription/validation end.  Pretty much no one is even able to redeem their retail keys, let alone get their pre-order bonuses (which as time goes by become more and more meaningless).  The mainpage activation link is dead and any workarounds dont work either.  Those who stood in Gamestop lines last night were greeted with pretty much nothing once they tried to activate.  (since Cryptic thought it wise to open the gates today instead of late last night)

I gotta say again that this has to be the worst headstart (and now Launch) I've had since the ol' WoW and SwG days.  This shit is sophomoric.  And pretty much every important decision has been bad it seems, from design to launch.  I blame Emmert's cheap ass... when is he gonna get ran outta town anyways?  I'd rather have RG than this douche.

Sure it has, yet you bought a copy of the game 

[Lantyssa]

Making people pay for Ferengi seems appropriate.

[Righ]

I played for a few hours last night. Created two characters, did the tutorial thing on both, did some missions on one, deleted the other, created a new one and ran through the tutorial with it. Spent some time reading about the now-capped skill points and looked at skill trees. As far as I can tell, everybody who hasn't already played through character advancement in beta and paid attention to skill points is now likely to screw up their first character. So that'll require another character to be created to fix the mistakes.

So between reading about skill theorycraft and starting over regularly to fix bad choices, this should be good for a month.

[Jayce]

I really want this to succeed, if only to prove that the genre has legs outside of WoW.  However this is pretty disheartening.  Skill choices you can't undo is so 1997... actually scratch that, you could undo them in UO; it's very 1999.

I really can't think of any other industry where companies can make the same mistakes 15 years in a row and never seem to learn.  This launch day stuff should be a solved problem.  I'm starting to think Blizzard isn't really that smart, they just somehow manage to avoid retardation.

[Montague]

I really want this to succeed, if only to prove that the genre has legs outside of WoW.  However this is pretty disheartening.  Skill choices you can't undo is so 1997... actually scratch that, you could undo them in UO; it's very 1999.

I really can't think of any other industry where companies can make the same mistakes 15 years in a row and never seem to learn.  This launch day stuff should be a solved problem.  I'm starting to think Blizzard isn't really that smart, they just somehow manage to avoid retardation.

Well depending on your definition of success, mission accomplished.

Atari put out a press release stating 1 million accounts have been created. (Obviously not box sales or preorders, but still a good number), and that STO knocked MEII off the #1 spot on Amazon. And there is a post on the forums that new servers are coming online by the end of the week. I think with our MMO jadedness we've underestimated the Trekkie factor at work here.

[Ghambit]

I really want this to succeed, if only to prove that the genre has legs outside of WoW.  However this is pretty disheartening.  Skill choices you can't undo is so 1997... actually scratch that, you could undo them in UO; it's very 1999.

I really can't think of any other industry where companies can make the same mistakes 15 years in a row and never seem to learn.  This launch day stuff should be a solved problem.  I'm starting to think Blizzard isn't really that smart, they just somehow manage to avoid retardation.

Well depending on your definition of success, mission accomplished.

Atari put out a press release stating 1 million accounts have been created. (Obviously not box sales or preorders, but still a good number), and that STO knocked MEII off the #1 spot on Amazon. And there is a post on the forums that new servers are coming online by the end of the week. I think with our MMO jadedness we've underestimated the Trekkie factor at work here.

I and others didnt underestimate a damned thing.  Trek is the largest media entertainment market in the world, ever.  Doesnt take a rocket scientist.  Regardless of this fact though, Cryptic is still and has dropped the ball.
Also, that Atari release only states generic accounts (like forums, etc.)  Doesnt state box sales or subscriptions.  But yah, it'll top 1 million orders for sure.

I other news, most everyone's pre-order CE stuff doesnt work (there goes $10-$20 xtra bucks)   
My pretty chromodynamic armor doesnt even render on my character.

[Venkman]

Err, wuh? Trek as the largest entertainment market in the world? I wouldn't even believe you if you said "to enter this medium/genre", since that hat goes to Star Wars.

Cryptic dropped the ball. But the IP itself wasn't going to guarantee a billion units sold either. The IP has been largely stagnant for the last 10+ years. That's why they rebooted it, thus making the entire timeline of this game irrelevant. And in ways that a mere voiceover ain't going to resolve

[fuser]

We just wanted to update you on our in-game server capacity status. Throughout Head Start we noticed the overwhelming response to the game and we are working on changes to further increase the number of people who can play Star Trek Online at any given time. Our current plan is to have these changes in place sometime this coming weekend. We will, of course, keep you updated on progress as it happens.

Looks like its going to be a rough first week 

[Lantyssa]

Cryptic dropped the ball. But the IP itself wasn't going to guarantee a billion units sold either. The IP has been largely stagnant for the last 10+ years. That's why they rebooted it, thus making the entire timeline of this game irrelevant. And in ways that a mere voiceover ain't going to resolve

I thought the game took place in the new timeline.

[Surlyboi]

We just wanted to update you on our in-game server capacity status. Throughout Head Start we noticed the overwhelming response to the game and we are working on changes to further increase the number of people who can play Star Trek Online at any given time. Our current plan is to have these changes in place sometime this coming weekend. We will, of course, keep you updated on progress as it happens.

Looks like its going to be a rough first week 

"We picked a bad day to stop sniffing glue..."

[palmer_eldritch]

Cryptic dropped the ball. But the IP itself wasn't going to guarantee a billion units sold either. The IP has been largely stagnant for the last 10+ years. That's why they rebooted it, thus making the entire timeline of this game irrelevant. And in ways that a mere voiceover ain't going to resolve

I thought the game took place in the new timeline.

The game has an intro with Leanord Nimoy as Spock explaining that he went through a black hole into an alternative past but making it clear that the game is set in the "old" timeline. He says life continued, and then gives a bit of information about what happened after he left. Which Spock clearly couldn't know, but :shrug:

I'm not knocking this, because I'm not sure how else they could have done it other than by dropping Leonard Nimoy for a different actor.

[Malakili]

Cryptic dropped the ball. But the IP itself wasn't going to guarantee a billion units sold either. The IP has been largely stagnant for the last 10+ years. That's why they rebooted it, thus making the entire timeline of this game irrelevant. And in ways that a mere voiceover ain't going to resolve

I thought the game took place in the new timeline.

Unpossible! Vulcan is there!

[Venkman]

Cryptic dropped the ball. But the IP itself wasn't going to guarantee a billion units sold either. The IP has been largely stagnant for the last 10+ years. That's why they rebooted it, thus making the entire timeline of this game irrelevant. And in ways that a mere voiceover ain't going to resolve

I thought the game took place in the new timeline.

The game has an intro with Leanord Nimoy as Spock explaining that he went through a black hole into an alternative past but making it clear that the game is set in the "old" timeline. He says life continued, and then gives a bit of information about what happened after he left. Which Spock clearly couldn't know, but :shrug:

I'm not knocking this, because I'm not sure how else they could have done it other than by dropping Leonard Nimoy for a different actor.

This was really tacked on. Why have the voice of the character that went to the different timeline explain the future history he didn't explain except to try and hamfist some corrollary to the movie which was the most recent popular expression of Trek.

This game is totally old timeline, old series stuff that has enough audience to attract still. My point merely was that audience is a LOT smaller now than it was at its peak, so any expectation that this was a "huge IP" that'd sell through millions of boxes are unrealistic.

[Modern Angel]

They're pimping it HARD on SyFy. Like every commercial break hard.

Fun: Tribbles multiply in your inventory. They make more powerful tribbles with different bonuses.

[palmer_eldritch]

If you give a tribble to an away team officer, they never fight and just stroke their tribble constantly.

[Riggswolfe]

So, I have a question for those who were in beta.

Did you do a fresh reinstall off of your DVDs or did you just use your beta install?