Darkfall "Released"

[DLRiley]

Samurai versus Armored Knight! Who would win- go go go!

Samurais primary weapon is going to be a bow and a spear. So in all likelihood the samurai.

Unless the Samuria put arrow in eyeball, my money on Knights mostly because Samurai armor < knight armor. Swords were a secondary weapon for knights as well. I won't theorcraft the armor penetration of their respective spears since that something I will have to look up.

[ashrik]

I need a guild of some kind. Of the two that have been spamming the racechat, one is some kind of weird RP pro-Alfar guild, and the other appears to harken back to the animated .gif days of the internet. Gotta somehow finagle my way into goonsquad

[BoneDancr]

I need a guild of some kind. Of the two that have been spamming the racechat, one is some kind of weird RP pro-Alfar guild, and the other appears to harken back to the animated .gif days of the internet. Gotta somehow finagle my way into goonsquad

I'd offer you one but I'm sure I'd get flamed for playing Darkfall by angry nerd ragers.

[gryeyes]

Then maybe invite him via PM? 

[ashrik]

I need a guild of some kind. Of the two that have been spamming the racechat, one is some kind of weird RP pro-Alfar guild, and the other appears to harken back to the animated .gif days of the internet. Gotta somehow finagle my way into goonsquad

I'd offer you one but I'm sure I'd get flamed for playing Darkfall by angry nerd ragers.

What? You're playing that fail game? LOLOLOOOOOOOOOLLOOOOOOOOL

[sidereal]

Sidereal in general if someone takes off running you just don't bother going after them...

Unless you're playing Darkfall.

Aaaaand. . we're back on track again.

[Delmania]

The image of the "tin can" knight rolling around on the ground like little Randy in his snowsuit from A Christmas Story is one of the more persistent medieval myths. Plate combat armor weighed less than a US Army soldier's standard issue pack, and the load was spread out along the knight's body.

Stilettos were descended from Baselards - long, thin daggers used by Swiss pikemen against armored knights. Not because the knights were wriggling around on the ground, but because when faced with massed pikes knights tended to dismount. In close quarters combat the pikemen needed a small secondary weapon capable of penetrating plate armor when enemies got in too close for them to use their pikes effectively.

I knew someone would point this out eventually.  I just thought I'd point out that chainmail was heavier than plate because it rested on the shoulders of the peron.  And that knights in plate armor could do handstands with it on.

[DLRiley]

Sidereal in general if someone takes off running you just don't bother going after them...

Unless you're playing Darkfall.

Aaaaand. . we're back on track again.

Those godawful running animations insures that no one can escape the wrath of mouth-breathing virgins.

[ashrik]

They stuck out like a sore (retarded) thumb in the videos. In gameplay, your focus is elsewhere, so they're not as oppressively stupid

[DLRiley]

They stuck out like a sore (retarded) thumb in the videos. In gameplay, your focus is elsewhere, so they're not as oppressively stupid

I don't know man, in my experience the only way to lose a mouth breathing virgin is to alt+f4 and log on 2 weeks later.

[gryeyes]

I knew someone would point this out eventually.  I just thought I'd point out that chainmail was heavier than plate because it rested on the shoulders of the peron.  And that knights in plate armor could do handstands with it on.

Of course saying all plate was 45lbs because armor for a very brief period of time at the very end of its widespread use is a bit silly.
Plate made of unhardened iron attacked to a suit of chainmail was used for a period of time that weighed in excess of 100lbs.  Reproduction pieces using tempered steel in a style that existed for an extremely brief period of time is not a good comparison.

The reduction in size and strangely weight was in direct response to the wide spread use of firearms. Less plates of thicker and better materials etc etc.

Why would mounted heavy infantry skimp on protection for their role on battle? Light infantry served the nimble running about portion of the conflict. The knights are the charge while mounted destroying formations being all but impervious to light infantry. The best armorers of Europe were still using unhardened iron up until firearms made them evolve.

[WindupAtheist]

Samurais primary weapon is going to be a bow and a spear. So in all likelihood the samurai.

Go jerk off to hentai you fucking weeaboo, you're the twat who was on about mechs being plausible in the epic nerd thread.

[gryeyes]

Samurais primary weapon is going to be a bow and a spear. So in all likelihood the samurai.

Go jerk off to hentai you fucking weeaboo, you're the twat who was on about mechs being plausible in the epic nerd thread.

Still crying?   

[ashrik]

That was you? Oh god, yet another thread....

Can we PLEASE talk about the latest revolution in gaming history. The impeccable and original Darkfall!! You guys will never have a chance to even be considered legends, something tells me it eats you up on the inside. What else explains 60 pages of tears?

[UnSub]

I've learned from this thread that the Knights of the Round Table didn't bunny hop. They may, however, have circle strafed, while rocket jumping is still a grey area.

As for DF: it remains captivating as a spectacle.

[LC]

I'm finally in there, and I'm getting raped owning so hard that bonedancer has to loot my corpse every few minutes.

[WindupAtheist]

For all the wanking they're the subject of, samurai basically did nothing and meant nothing. They conquered nobody, fought nobody, just sat on their island and sliced each other up for 500 years while the world paid them no attention. Japan's history as a military power consists of a lot of playing with itself until someone came by and finally said "Here's some guns, dummies!" at which point they eventually decided to take on the world, lost the biggest war in history, and ended up as a disarmed pacifist state.

[Rake]

The Japanese eventually lost but before that they fucking pwned nearly all of Asia. They threw the British back further than any other armies had ever done in the whole of history and were one of the most organized fighting forces the world has ever seen.

They rocked and it's a good job they lost or we'd all be eating Yoshinoya instead of MacDonalds. Hmm on second thoughts maybe they should have won.

[Draegan]

What a shitty derail. 

[tmp]

I'm finally in there, and I'm getting raped owning so hard that bonedancer has to loot my corpse every few minutes.

Do increasing the skill levels have noticeable impact in DF?

[ashrik]

I'm finally in there, and I'm getting raped owning so hard that bonedancer has to loot my corpse every few minutes.

Do increasing the skill levels have noticeable impact in DF?

My lesser magic is around 28, so it's past the first skill "level" at 25. No noticeable difference, but I'm not running some kind of combat monitor either. The game feels more like a persistent FPS than the MMOs I'm used to

[LC]

I'm finally in there, and I'm getting raped owning so hard that bonedancer has to loot my corpse every few minutes.

Do increasing the skill levels have noticeable impact in DF?

It's only a slight increase as far as I can tell. Nothing that's really noticeable.

[DLRiley]

For all the wanking they're the subject of, samurai basically did nothing and meant nothing. They conquered nobody, fought nobody, just sat on their island and sliced each other up for 500 years while the world paid them no attention. Japan's history as a military power consists of a lot of playing with itself until someone came by and finally said "Here's some guns, dummies!" at which point they eventually decided to take on the world, lost the biggest war in history, and ended up as a disarmed pacifist state.

Though your right about pre-industrial japan, post industrial was kickass. Asian countries use to set their watches around when then will get anal rapped by japan. And they did out right humiliate Russia. Fuck it took a nuke to make them give up, so you can't be dissing all of Japanese military history because of some wanking.

[Aez]

Ah!

Fact : knights were clearly superior to armored chariots.

Conclusion : with the proper technology, mechs > tanks.

[Nebu]

This picture doesn't need a caption....

[Modern Angel]

jesus fucking christ.

[Righ]

I still suspect that the game doesn't exist. Bonedancr, LC and Ashrik are in with the "developers" and they're trying to get people to use their credit cards on the site. Just because the registration fails, it doesn't mean that they can't then use the card number to buy furry porn.

[UnSub]

anal rapped

... and now I have an image in my mind that won't go away.

[WindupAtheist]

Though your right about pre-industrial japan, post industrial was kickass. Asian countries use to set their watches around when then will get anal rapped by japan. And they did out right humiliate Russia. Fuck it took a nuke to make them give up, so you can't be dissing all of Japanese military history because of some wanking.

Oh come on, they humiliated Russia at sea. That barely counts. It's like taking on an arm wrestling champ and beating him at checkers. The couple times Japanese and Russian ground forces clashed during WW2, the Japanese ran away with their assholes bleeding.

[LC]

I pked a miner today. He dropped 100 iron ore and 3 pickaxes.

[Triforcer]

Any garlic or wood?

[ashrik]

What race are you playing LC? Are you guilded yet?

[NiX]

I pked a miner today. He dropped 100 iron ore and 3 pickaxes.

[Cadaverine]

...and much hilarity ensued. 

[Vinadil]

Well, our town finally has a full set of walls... so we took a little break to head back to the mainland last night and see what was going on.  Many more noobs than I am used to seeing, it was nice to see the area active still.  We also got to be the saviors of the dwarfland for a bit as we chased off 7 or 8 Mahirim and Orks.  Since mounts are all exactly the same speed... it is nearly impossible to kill other mounted players if they run, but we did manage to get one with a "jump off your mount and kill his with your bow" tactic.  Tough to do while everyone is running, and you leave mounts behind just chewing on grass, but it works.

As to the "does skill make a difference" questions... it definitely does, but the scale of this game is so different from other MMOs that it is harder to feel.  It is something you definitely notice if you go back to things like goblin scouts after your armor proficiency, weapon skill, etc. are all closing in on 50.  You will be a god among goblins as your 1h weapon does 12-15 per hit and they do 4-5 damage vs you, their arrows bouncing off your shiny shield like gnats.

This game is different from most in that there is still benefit from killing level 1 creatures, so you get to see your power increase from time to time.  We have a goblin camp just outside our city, so we farm them on a regular basis.  It IS a small, incremental gain... that follows much the same path as a normal level-based game would, but the gain is there.  It is almost like there are 8 levels... 0/25/50/75 and then the same for the masteries in every profession.  Between gear and skill it seems like level 50 is about twice the effectiveness of 0, I have no personal experience with anything higher than that.