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Trippy
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Because it's being done by a studio co-founded by a comic book artist and an ex-NCsoft person whose credits are so vague he doesn't have a single listing in Moby Games and they don't mention what he's worked on anywhere on their site?
Edit: by, more typos I shouldn't eat and type at the same time
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rk47
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Because it's been done by a studio co-founded a comic book artist and a ex-NCsoft person whose credits are so vague he doesn't have a single listing in Moby Games and they don't mention what he's worked on anywhere on their site?
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We went over this in the Vajuras thread.
If you want to see the caliber of people working on the game, do a search on that name.
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Lt.Dan
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How did they secure the license. IP owners must be so desparate to create a MMO they'll take a pitch from practically anyone
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Trippy
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THQ already had the non-MMO WH40K license (i.e. the Relic Dawn of War games) so it was a natural extension for GW to grant THQ the MMO license as well.
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[Chaos-McBolter] LFM Emporor group! ONly needz helar then we ready 2 go!
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[Chaos-McBolter] LFM Emporor group! ONly needz helar then we ready 2 go!
[Chaos-Drizzit] STFU NOOB Emp wuz nurfed last patch!
On the plus side, people like that will actually help with immersion when playing as Greenskins  |
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Arrrgh
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Since most MMOs suck is not having MMO experience really such a drawback?
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Since most MMOs suck is not having MMO experience really such a drawback?
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Very true, unless it's something like Dofus going for a completely different audience. In this case though, WH40k is definitely the existing audience unless they cobble together some xtrans-based browser RTS game ;) So yea on the one hand they risk repeating mistakes only other people have learned from. But on the other, you first need confidence in the game actually ever launching to be concerned by that  How many 40k MMOs have been announced in the last 10 years? I can think of two off the top of my head but am pretty sure there were two other times too. |
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Arrrgh
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Since most MMOs suck is not having MMO experience really such a drawback?
Yes, because that make the same mistakes that were made 10 years ago rather than all new mistakes. The way Vanguard avoided all the mistakes of EQ? |
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The way Vanguard avoided all the mistakes of EQ?
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The way Vanguard avoided all the mistakes of EQ?
If there is much truth to that one tell-all post, Vanguard was put out by newbies, too. It rather reinforces Murgos' point. |
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I cannot see how a 40k MMO would be worth anything unless it was either an MMOFPS that didn't suck (like Battlefield 2 rather than Planetside) or was a turn-based strategy game that was nothing more than a translation of the tabletop to persistant campaign status. I'd play those. If it's just DIKU with 40k Skins, shove it right back up your sunshine hole.
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Eh, they could make a MMORPG based on that Dark Whateverthefuckangstynerds RPG game they just released but only printed about 500 copies of. It'll suck cockass though unless you can play other races than human, and that brings up some pretty giant balance issues if they stick to the source material.
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…a turn-based strategy game that was nothing more than a translation of the tabletop to persistant campaign status…
Why hasn't there been any of these? Oh, I forgot, that would jeopardize RL properties… |
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…a turn-based strategy game that was nothing more than a translation of the tabletop to persistant campaign status…
Why hasn't there been any of these? Oh, I forgot, that would jeopardize RL properties… Pretty much the same reason that WotC insists on selling virtual MtG cards for the same price as real ones. To roll around in cash and fuck the customer twice. |
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Trippy
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Since most MMOs suck is not having MMO experience really such a drawback?
No it's not. It's still the case that the best MMORPGs developed here in NA were done by teams new to the MMO development process. With experienced teams you end up with things like AC2, SWG, TR, EQ II, and AA. Vanguard was something of a special case in that it was designed by vets but mostly implemented by newbies so it doubly sucked. Of course first time efforts can be stinkers as well. What matters is that the team understands what makes a game fun, cares about quality and knows how to and has the time to polish the game. Relic is such a studio, IMO. Unfortunately they aren't doing the MMO. |
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I cannot see how a 40k MMO would be worth anything unless it was either an MMOFPS that didn't suck (like Battlefield 2 rather than Planetside) or was a turn-based strategy game that was nothing more than a translation of the tabletop to persistant campaign status. I'd play those.
Either one of those would be awesome, and the latter is a microtrans' fan's wet dream. |
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I cannot see how a 40k MMO would be worth anything unless it was either an MMOFPS that didn't suck (like Battlefield 2 rather than Planetside) or was a turn-based strategy game that was nothing more than a translation of the tabletop to persistant campaign status. I'd play those.
Either one of those would be awesome, and the latter is a microtrans' fan's wet dream. Oh, I'd be SO DOWN for a TBS translation of the tabletop game. Hell, I'd probably even spend money on the armies, so long as they didn't try to charge RL prices for virtual armies and shit. Of course, knowing GW, they'd probably make it so that you paid like $20 for the basic army and any of the overpowered special units/characters you'd have to buy separately for $10 a pop, making those who spent more much more powerful than those who didn't. |
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What's the point of getting excited about some "in the works" MMO? They take years to actually come out, are frequently shitty, and by the end they resemble nothing like what you expected anyway. Getting excited about an MMO that may or may not be in development is stupid. Unless it's KOTOR Online.  anakin'd |
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rk47
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wouldn't be so bad if it's MMO'ish with squad gameplay like Granado Espada / Sword of the New World. You're a squad, and you command it. Upgrade gears with requisition points ,participate in battle etc etc.
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wouldn't be so bad if it's MMO'ish with squad gameplay like Granado Espada / Sword of the New World. You're a squad, and you command it. Upgrade gears with requisition points ,participate in battle etc etc.
I was thinking the same thing: every player has a team of pets they control and command. That would be able to work real time and still have lots of flexibility. |
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Game designer 1 : wouldn't be so bad if it's MMO'ish with squad gameplay like Granado Espada / Sword of the New World. You're a squad, and you command it. Upgrade gears with requisition points ,participate in battle etc etc.
I was thinking the same thing: every player has a team of pets they control and command. That would be able to work real time and still have lots of flexibility. Producer 1 : interesting, will it make the game looks like teh WoW? Game designer 1 : no. Producer 1 : what's the point then? Game designer 1 : We have a fraction of WoW development budget AND they have an 8 year advance on us for development time. It's better to find a niche and get a 150k stable subscription than fighting an unbeatable war. Producer 1 : Game designer 2 : I can deliver teh WoW in 18 months for 8 millions. Producer 1 : ahhhh, take my money. Game designer 1 : WTF??? Everybody know this guy is completely insane and addicted to crack! Producer 1 : What's your point, don't you have a niche to take care of. Game designer 2 : LOL Game designer 1 : Game designer 2 : You like boose? Producer 1 : |
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OMG Aez that was too funny!  Way too true, but way too funny! Are there any MMOG's that let you command like a squad? Not the RTSmmogs, but say a game where you can have a team of four characters you control (or more?), and level them up and have fun building a team. I allways loved The Temple of Elemental Evil turn based system it had (even if it was a buggy, the way it played was more a thinking rpg), and a mmog where you have it more turn based with a squad would be pretty fun. |
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