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Reply #980 on: November 04, 2008, 01:45:42 PM

Join Riley's Rangers, then go for a long run.

By about lev 9 or 10 you should be able to constantly have arount 2k caps without problems. Especially if you have a follower to play packmule.

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Reply #981 on: November 04, 2008, 01:49:13 PM

Repair and Lockpicking are easily the most important stats in the game.
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Reply #982 on: November 04, 2008, 02:00:10 PM

I have taken to cheating.  Sorry.  I can't stand to run out of stims.  It makes me crazy.  Right now that's all I'm cheating for except for the naughty stuff I got for the pics I posted.  I don't even use that gun in the pic.  Just stims.   I has to have em.

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Reply #983 on: November 04, 2008, 02:17:10 PM

Join Riley's Rangers, then go for a long run.

By about lev 9 or 10 you should be able to constantly have arount 2k caps without problems. Especially if you have a follower to play packmule.

Humm, I'm level 9, and having serious money problems.
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Reply #984 on: November 04, 2008, 02:23:29 PM

Like folks have mentioned, sell ammunition you aren't using or aren't planning to use for a while, it makes a lot of money.  Grenades and mines aren't for every build and can take up a lot of space and sell rather well.  If you're not using energy weapons, all of that ammo sells for a bunch.  Same for missiles and 5mm ammo if you're not going to be using heavy weapons a lot early. 

Turning in scrap metal to Nathan does pretty well if you haven't nuked Megaton but it's not really a great source of income.  Weapons have decent value and they don't take up nearly as much space as armor.  Certain junk items sell fairly well like cigarettes. 

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Reply #985 on: November 04, 2008, 02:24:41 PM

Turning in scrap metal is well worth it because you not only get caps for each turn in, you get experience too, which not all the turnins give.

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Reply #986 on: November 04, 2008, 02:45:29 PM

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Reply #987 on: November 04, 2008, 02:47:11 PM

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Reply #988 on: November 04, 2008, 04:38:25 PM

Eh, don't sell ammo, sell drugs, mines, cloakboys and guns that you repaired from other guns. Repair and sell any energy weapons you find.
Every time you repair at a vendor, the money you spent repairing can be recovered by selling crap to him.
You might not use energy weps, but you'll start to use them eventually, so only sell their ammo if you really have it in excess.
Just sell any ammo above 500, exception being heavy weapons, if you use them.

Didn't really have a problem with stims, money or ammo. Had 300+ stims by the end of the game, and some 20k caps. Never sold a rocket, and most certainly never sold a fat man or a mini nuke.
I did explore nearly the whole map, though.

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Reply #989 on: November 04, 2008, 04:43:17 PM

Turning in scrap metal to Nathan does pretty well if you haven't nuked Megaton but it's not really a great source of income.  Weapons have decent value and they don't take up nearly as much space as armor.  Certain junk items sell fairly well like cigarettes. 
You mean Walter?  I got his code in my second play through, so I'm not worried if he disappears.

In my first game I could have made thousands of caps if he hadn't vanished.

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Reply #990 on: November 04, 2008, 04:50:48 PM

What's his code?  I spent all day looking for him and finally found him laying dead in a corner.   swamp poop


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Reply #991 on: November 04, 2008, 04:59:01 PM

Hmm, I can't remember if the code you get off of NPCs in the console will work properly or if they're codes for that instance of the object and not the actual code for the raw object. However, if you actually find his body, you should be able to go into the console, click on the corpse, and 'resurrect 1' him. Apparently he likes to fall off shit and die, from what I've read. I haven't tried going into the console and hitting him with a 'SetEssential' so that he's unkillable, so that might be a good workaround.

EDIT: Presuming Le PC.
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Reply #992 on: November 04, 2008, 05:25:10 PM

One other thing that you gents should probably know: you walk faster if you holster your weapon.

But you shoot motherfuckers slower.  Priorities.

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Reply #993 on: November 04, 2008, 10:38:49 PM

The retail version has Securom. My grinding DVD drive and the familiar spinning CD icon makes me sure of it.

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Pro tip. Falloutlauncher.exe requires you to have the DVD in your drive. Fallout3.exe which just launches the game and not the splash screen does NOT. So just change your desktop shortcut target to fallout3.exe and you're DVD (if not secureROM) free.

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Reply #994 on: November 05, 2008, 03:38:57 AM

Good tip.  Cheers.

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Reply #995 on: November 05, 2008, 06:01:03 AM

Anyone playing this on a lower end machine. I've got an AMD64 3200, 2bg ram and a geforce 7800gt 256mb. I would much rather play it on the PC but not if it's going to run like poop.

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Reply #996 on: November 05, 2008, 06:23:29 AM

Not sure how "low end" my PC is (AMD 64 X2 4800, 2G ram, geforce7600gt), but it runs just fine, haven't noticed any slowdowns at all.

(I play on medium, with actor draw distance set very high for sniping and whatnot)


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Reply #997 on: November 05, 2008, 07:20:26 AM

I'm pretty sure you guys jinxed my Walter.

Also, this game is gorgeous and for some reason it works so much better in the post-apoc setting than in fantasy-land. I'm almost tempted to go play Oblivion again. Almost.
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Reply #998 on: November 05, 2008, 08:47:38 AM

well i think the issue with oblivion is the surreal denizens. There's a huge threat looming over the horizon (DEAMONS FROM HELL BABY) but they still go on their daily lives like nothing is out of order. Sure the president is assassinated but other than some housewives exchanging rumours they don't really act the 'oh shit' real well.

F3 in contrast has that 'survival' atmosphere going on really well. Although I cringe at some towns design, it's overall a 'believable' setting where people actually FIT in the world. But hearing a teenager talk like a 30 year old baffles me. VA QC please!

Oh and goddamn karma sucks dick in practice. What's the point of sneaking around and stealing shit if people will still know about it? Makes no sense to me. Slaving is too profitable. And the downside to evil is not really depicted well in here. Civilization should shun you. Merchants would not trade big guns with someone like that. (What if he points the gun at me etc is a valid concern to traders who is otherwise portrayed as retarded junk buyers)




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Reply #999 on: November 05, 2008, 09:04:35 AM

Bethesda has always had problem with magical guards, so at least it's slightly better than that. But yeah, note to Bethsoft: if nobody sees you do it, it didn't happen!

Also, ya'll some thievin' bastad/biches. I haven't stolen a dern thing yet, though as I said I am a drug dealer and may hack a computer or eight (not the red ones, though!).

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Reply #1000 on: November 05, 2008, 09:19:32 AM

Merchants would not trade big guns with someone like that. (What if he points the gun at me etc is a valid concern to traders who is otherwise portrayed as retarded junk buyers)

Right. The guy is a homicidal maniac, is armed, comes at you looking for a gun. What do you think he'd do if you refused to sell one to you?

Good people should just try to run away or shoot you on sight.

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Reply #1001 on: November 05, 2008, 09:21:07 AM

Not sure how "low end" my PC is (AMD 64 X2 4800, 2G ram, geforce7600gt), but it runs just fine, haven't noticed any slowdowns at all.

(I play on medium, with actor draw distance set very high for sniping and whatnot)


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Reply #1002 on: November 05, 2008, 10:11:53 AM

1024x768... and I typo'd, it's actually an AMD 64 X2 3800. Does it get worse later on with more 'zergy' situations? [haven't seen anything like that, yet]


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Reply #1003 on: November 05, 2008, 10:20:01 AM

I just got the game last night and installed it while watching some ol' thing or other on TV.  I didn't really get a chance to play it, but I was curious about what settings to use.  I have a 2.33 Core 2 Duo, 2G ram and geforce 7950gtx.  Based on what you all have said so far, I'll start off on Medium settings at 1280x1024 and see how that runs.  I'm so used to that resolution in games that I'd really hate to go smaller.

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Reply #1004 on: November 05, 2008, 10:43:11 AM

I have only stolen (taken red things) twice and killed a non-hostile once.  The non-hostile was that fucking Moriarty, to whom I gifted a live grenade while he was sitting on his barstool.  I then pillaged his office.  The other time I looted red things was when I found Granny Sparkle dead in her shack and decided she didn't need all that junk.  I'm not having any trouble playing Good since it seems the karma from your developmental years in the vault have a huge weight, and I can get good karma by giving scrap metal to Walter.

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Reply #1005 on: November 05, 2008, 11:16:21 AM

I have only stolen (taken red things) twice and killed a non-hostile once.  The non-hostile was that fucking Moriarty, to whom I gifted a live grenade while he was sitting on his barstool.  I then pillaged his office.  The other time I looted red things was when I found Granny Sparkle dead in her shack and decided she didn't need all that junk.  I'm not having any trouble playing Good since it seems the karma from your developmental years in the vault have a huge weight, and I can get good karma by giving scrap metal to Walter.

Did you ever find Moriarty's safe? Assuming you mean the Irish asshole in Megaton.

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Reply #1006 on: November 05, 2008, 11:20:02 AM

I just got the game last night and installed it while watching some ol' thing or other on TV.  I didn't really get a chance to play it, but I was curious about what settings to use.  I have a 2.33 Core 2 Duo, 2G ram and geforce 7950gtx.  Based on what you all have said so far, I'll start off on Medium settings at 1280x1024 and see how that runs.  I'm so used to that resolution in games that I'd really hate to go smaller.
I'm running on a 2.4 C2D with 2GB Ram but I have an 8800gtx. 1280x720, everything cranked to max and it runs great.
I can get good karma by giving scrap metal to Walter.

I've been getting karma from the dude outside megaton. Every time I visit home to sell/dump, I get a purified water from the butler and give it to him.
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Reply #1007 on: November 05, 2008, 02:28:18 PM

What's his code?  I spent all day looking for him and finally found him laying dead in a corner.   swamp poop
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Reply #1008 on: November 05, 2008, 06:15:29 PM

So I almost lost Moira last night too. I showed up too early to Craterside, and the door cursor went from red to green as I clicked. I enter and Moira isn't around. I waited minutes, then Wait two hours, never shows up. Fearing the worst I went back to an earlier save, luckily not so long ago, went back, Wait'd until the store opened, went in and there she was.

No idea if this is connected to Walter but I'm wondering if this will be a trend.
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Reply #1009 on: November 05, 2008, 07:01:28 PM

Did you ever find Moriarty's safe? Assuming you mean the Irish asshole in Megaton.

No!  That's a well-hidden safe.

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Reply #1010 on: November 05, 2008, 07:30:36 PM

I spent a couple hours last night just shotgunning the citizens of Megaton until they were all dead dead dead. Mouthy little kid you can't kill? No worries, go blast their parent(s) into little bloody giblets. That'll teach em!

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Reply #1011 on: November 05, 2008, 08:58:45 PM

I spent a couple hours last night just shotgunning the citizens of Megaton until they were all dead dead dead. Mouthy little kid you can't kill? No worries, go blast their parent(s) into little bloody giblets. That'll teach em!

Eh? You can kill him. You leave him there and then go set off the nuke. I thought it was a graceful way for him to go, Judgement Day style.
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Reply #1012 on: November 05, 2008, 09:11:30 PM

Did you ever find Moriarty's safe? Assuming you mean the Irish asshole in Megaton.

No!  That's a well-hidden safe.

I believe by "safe" they mean the hard-locked cabinet next to a bed in a room on the second floor of the saloon.

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Reply #1013 on: November 06, 2008, 12:33:20 PM

I'm pretty sure you guys jinxed my Walter.

Also, this game is gorgeous and for some reason it works so much better in the post-apoc setting than in fantasy-land. I'm almost tempted to go play Oblivion again. Almost.

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Fallout is a far, far, far better Oblivion than Oblivion was.  I have tried it post-Fallout and Lo, It T'was Crap.

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Reply #1014 on: November 06, 2008, 05:48:19 PM

So the game just patched for me. Had to google what they patched. Fun stuff:

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55786

* Fixed occasional crashes when exiting the game or using Alt F4 to exit.
* Fixed crashes when using Alt-Tab while binks or credits were playing.
* The game now restarts properly after title updates finish installing.

Err, I played MMOs. My patch notes are generally 30 lines plus or it wasn't worth the download. Also, 6.6mb to fix two crash bugs and to add in the ability for the game to properly restart after the patch?
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