Bethesda gets Fallout

[NiX]

Storyline spoiler inside!

[rattran]

Storyline spoiler inside!

Yeah, but

[NiX]

Good point and I wish something came of it. For the most part, being evil doesn't set you back any. But, I think that's a result of Bethesda.

[schild]

Being Evil is the only way to play this game. I've done very quest, gone back after finishing it, and been met with great success, for example:

The Family:

[Hindenburg]

Actually, the good player just pickpocketed and lockpicked everything, while also cleaning the store when that prick was away.

Karma hits for stealing are really minor, just sell a few fingers and you're back to Very Good again.

Isn't the Shishkebab superior to the Vampire Sword? Fairly certain that there's a schematic for that thing in their den, and that Vance carries one.

[Venkman]

If at Canterbury Commons you choose the weapons caravan guy, you can buy a shiskebob schematic from him as well. I forget the price.

[Signe]

If at Canterbury Commons you choose the weapons caravan guy, you can buy a shiskebob schematic from him as well. I forget the price.

Stuck it in spoiler tags because, you know, this isn't the spoiler thread. 

[squirrel]

Hahah, wow, being "good" sucks. That shack is a piece of shit. I was hoping someone would post screenshots.

I have Chinese Rugs and old typewriters and other kickass shit in my pad.

I don't know what Bethsoft was thinking.

No kidding - just got my pad, I have a butler and a balcony and a queen bed. Very evil opportunist is right! Plus I got to see a glorious explosion!

[Hindenburg]

Good guys also get a butler, Mr Handy. He's got quite the repertoire of jokes.
You can also change themes, the best looking one is the pre-war theme, which has a rug, a tv set, fancy chairs, and a kick ass trycicle 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LIZJ5oS9AU

I've no idea how to post those fancy yewtube links.

[schild]

Bad guys get the butler.

Also, most of the themes in Tenpenny get a rug, fancy chairs, a funky tv set, but also a gramaphone thing and computers, typewriters, etc.

Good is for pussies. JOIN EVIL TODAY.

Of course, you can just

[Ironwood]

Finally playing this.

I am liking it.

That is all.

[Hindenburg]

Good is for pussies. JOIN EVIL TODAY.

Good is for pussies. Evil also is for pussies.
JOIN NEUTRAL TODAY AND STAY HOMELESS!

[rk47]

Can't seem to like it. Shooter elements felt wrong. I couldn't be bothered to aim since the game seems to be sluggish and seeing enemies just spray hitting me from ridiculous distance while VATS register 30% hit chance is quite odd.

[Khaldun]

I'm loving the game.

I'm doing good this time through, but I've got some evil designs for round 2.

What's nice is I can see a very Mad Max kind of neutral way to play too.

You can really come up with some funny outfits--a bathrobe on a male character with a police helmet, you name it. How do you rotate the camera to look at your character from the front, though?

[Sky]

You guys all play games way faster than I do.

[Morfiend]

Can't seem to like it. Shooter elements felt wrong. I couldn't be bothered to aim since the game seems to be sluggish and seeing enemies just spray hitting me from ridiculous distance while VATS register 30% hit chance is quite odd.

Thats one of the things thats annoying me. I have Small Guns skill at 90, and it seems like to get more than a 50% chance to hit with VATS I need to be right up in their faces. Also, with a Stealth of 55, I cant get close enough to stuff to have a decent chance to hit with "sneak attack".

The monsters on the other hand seem to be able to tee off on me at will from like a hundred yards away.

[Rasix]

Can't seem to like it. Shooter elements felt wrong. I couldn't be bothered to aim since the game seems to be sluggish and seeing enemies just spray hitting me from ridiculous distance while VATS register 30% hit chance is quite odd.

Thats one of the things thats annoying me. I have Small Guns skill at 90, and it seems like to get more than a 50% chance to hit with VATS I need to be right up in their faces.

I'm headshotting people at a 95% clip from rather lengthy distances (mostly interior).    Outside, it does seem a bit odd in that the VATs accuracy does not seem to be very consistent compared to what enemies seem to be hitting you at.  You will get consistent results with what they can do if you just aim and fire (or pray and spray like a lot do).  I can score headshots with a sniper rifle or lincoln's gun through just manual aiming far beyond what I could possible do with VATs.

[Bunk]

Can't seem to like it. Shooter elements felt wrong. I couldn't be bothered to aim since the game seems to be sluggish and seeing enemies just spray hitting me from ridiculous distance while VATS register 30% hit chance is quite odd.

Thats one of the things thats annoying me. I have Small Guns skill at 90, and it seems like to get more than a 50% chance to hit with VATS I need to be right up in their faces. Also, with a Stealth of 55, I cant get close enough to stuff to have a decent chance to hit with "sneak attack".

The monsters on the other hand seem to be able to tee off on me at will from like a hundred yards away.

Get a sniper rifle. Be in stealth, hold down RMB to use the scope, and crit-one shot Super Mutants from a half mile away!

I use VATS mainly indoors, where I'm ususally close enough to get 85%+ most of the time. Also, its really handy when something fast makes a charging leap at you to hit VATS at the last milisecond, and then gleefully blow the back of its head off from one foot away (in cool, slow-mo action!)

Also, someone earlier in this thread suggested that mines are useless. Playing a stealth character, I totally disagree. It's just a matter of scouting out the most likely route the super muties will take to come after you. Sneak up to a choke point, drop a bottlecap mine. Backup to somewhere you have cover and take a potshot. Laugh as the mutie blows both of his legs clean off when he comes running for you. Placed right, those bottlecap mines can blow an entire room up.

[Morfiend]

Yeah, I only used the mines a few times, and that was when I was in a cave with a whole bunch of those scorpions at low level, and I couldnt kill them all due to ammo. I put two mines in a doorway while a pack of 6 of them chased me. I managed to kill 5 of them.

[Venkman]

The more I play this, the more I feel like this is what Hellgate: London should have been.

You guys all play games way faster than I do.

Yea, but you get to play it on your big TV I imagine. I'd be taking my sweet-a$$ time too

[Morfiend]

The more I play this, the more I feel like this is what Hellgate: London should have been.

You guys all play games way faster than I do.

Yea, but you get to play it on your big TV I imagine. I'd be taking my sweet-a$$ time too

Please dont feed the... well... whatever he is.

[Sky]

NOM NOM NOM

[Riggswolfe]

Also, someone earlier in this thread suggested that mines are useless. Playing a stealth character, I totally disagree. It's just a matter of scouting out the most likely route the super muties will take to come after you. Sneak up to a choke point, drop a bottlecap mine. Backup to somewhere you have cover and take a potshot. Laugh as the mutie blows both of his legs clean off when he comes running for you. Placed right, those bottlecap mines can blow an entire room up.

Mine's are not useless. I used them a ton on the Super Mutant Masters. I basically did what it sounds like you did, kiting them with mines.

[LK]

The stuff you make like Bottlecap Mines and Nuka Grenades are highly superior to regular items as well. Sneak up to use Frags, kite melee guys to use mines. Very useful against some of the tougher hide creatures. I'm drowning in ammo, caps, and mines / high powered items, so I recommend using em in this fashion to save ammo / condition.

[Venkman]

Feh, I'm all MMO with the mines: pulling with ranged through a path of death. I can't find enough Lunchboxes to make Bottlecap mines but just keep pillaging Minefield if the supply of Frag Mines I buy off the merchants deplete.

[schild]

Did anyone figure out how to put a grenade on someone on the PC version so that it blows up. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

[Hindenburg]

Also, someone earlier in this thread suggested that mines are useless. Playing a stealth character, I totally disagree. It's just a matter of scouting out the most likely route the super muties will take to come after you. Sneak up to a choke point, drop a bottlecap mine. Backup to somewhere you have cover and take a potshot. Laugh as the mutie blows both of his legs clean off when he comes running for you. Placed right, those bottlecap mines can blow an entire room up.

That'd be because Bottlecap mines, much like all expendable crafted weapons, do retarded damage. Same for Nuka Cola grenades, which would be the best weapon in the game if they didn't require Quantums.

And yeah, i should fix that expression, FRAG mines are useless. Plasma and Pulse mines are good.
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Schild, you gotta pickpocket the grenades/mines into their pants.
Been that way since the first fallout. Was also the best way to kill the president in fallout 2.

[schild]

Schild, you gotta pickpocket the grenades/mines into their pants.

For some reason my grenades aren't going off :(

[LK]

If the enemy is on some script it won't go off. But it'll show as "Live Grenade / Mine" when you do it in their inventory.

[schild]

If the enemy is on some script it won't go off. But it'll show as "Live Grenade / Mine" when you do it in their inventory.

Ah. I kept doing it while they were talking to folks and such.

[lesion]

Didjoo guys know you can one-shot anything (with pants) by sneaking explosives into their pants? Even frags. I believe. (Pulse on organics did it, so I assume. I AM AN ASS)

[Furiously]

Ohhhh! I wonder if I can put the powdered wig on the mutant! I put it on one of my other followers.

[Triforcer]

Me want download from Steam, but Steam is racist toward those living in Japanese.  Grr. 

[Lum]

Sarah Palin's educational policy: 10mm.

[Rasix]

Fun with the railway rifle.