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SnakeCharmer
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Morgan Freeman would be hilarious. I second the idea.
Wait, they're doing Half-Life Online? Wasn't that Robert Guilleme/Benson?
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UnSub
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At this point we'll have to settle for "meh's". As much as Curt Schilling the gamer geek would love to tell you and show you, at the end of the day every decision we make must be with the entity, the IP, as the complete and total focus. We do what's best for the game, the IP, the world and the company, and never deter from that, ever.
I completely understand the reasoning, but I'm hoping for something interesting to pop up out of the strange collaboration of people that 38 Studios has brought together. Having seen how badly other MMOs have screwed it by announcing things years in advance of their actual development, I think it's a great idea not to tell us what is planned until it's beein 95% completed.
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Slayerik
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I am not a PVP fan Now I'm waiting for Sinij or Slayerik to come along and scream "BUT BAESBALL IS PVP YUO PUSSY!!1!" at him. It's only been a year since he posted this but what the hell....... Professional pitching and PVP. They are both head to head. Skill is tested on both sides. PvE would be like replacing Curt with a pitching machine. Curt just doesn't want PVP because he can't handle that kind of fierce competition. 
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Lantyssa
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Wasn't that Robert Guilleme/Benson?
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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HaemishM
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What you show better not be a minute long CGI with that guy that does movie voice-overs talking the background (or Morgan Freeman). That stuff really grinds my gears. What he said. If you do not show gameplay of any kind, you do not really need to bother. EVER.
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Sky
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Morgan Freeman would be hilarious. I second the idea.
Wait, they're doing Half-Life Online? Wasn't that Robert Guilleme/Benson? Sorry, it's an old joke of mine. I pretend to confuse Gordan and Morgan Freemans.
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SnakeCharmer
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Ah, gotcha.
I tend to fall down the sarchasm on more than one occasion.
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Morgan Freeman would be hilarious. I second the idea.
Wait, they're doing Half-Life Online? Wasn't that Robert Guilleme/Benson? Sorry, it's an old joke of mine. I pretend to confuse Gordan and Morgan Freemans. The funny thing is the dude's daughter (I don't remember the names) in the beginning of HL2 has freckles that remind me of Morgan Freeman.
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CharlieMopps
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So, Moorguard and Blackguard huh? SOE servers? Can we please avoid Jedi/Froglok type fiascoes? Like... ya know... honesty is the best policy and all. Oh, and if there is anything resembling an exchange server that you suddenly pop up six months after release I'm personally going to one of Schilling's games so I can boo constantly while he's up to pitch... or bat... or whatever it is he does.
My only real concern is that there are way too many SOE people going over to this company... and SOE hasn't exactly been a Stellar success lately. I mean, props on EQ1... oh wait, SOE didn't create EQ1 did they. Hrm... well, good luck on your spawn game.
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schild
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What a terrible post.
Replace those two names with anyone who has made MMOGs before. Replace SOE with any other companies name.
You don't even need to remove the last 2 sentences.
And you would have the exact same results.
Blizzard offshoots? Haven't produced anything of merit. NCSoft? Nope. Gravity? Nope. Turbine? Does Turbine even have offshoots? Mythic is still riding DAOC.
Obviously, you just don't like SOE. Fine. Cool. But the industry is still recycling itself. Eventually we'll get some new blood when people realize the middle section of this post. Could be a while.
I just want something shocking and original. MMORPGs are due for that any day now.
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Venkman
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I doubt we'll see shocking and original at these development budgets, unless it goes to a different platforms. I equate what AAA MMOs are today with just how much FPS games have changed over the years. There's this belief that people know what makes it successful so just more of that but better. Which is wrong of course, but takes just long enough to realize that you've already glutted the market too much to be shocking and original in. I just don't hear any real (as in, we have a budget, publisher and actual project) discussion going on about turning things on their head, going back to skills-based non-XP open-world player-created economy games. That is fundamentally more "massive" But then, that's one of the biggest spawn points for new genres  This isn't to say some new game can't dethrone WoW of course. It just means that it'll need to be built along the same vectors to out do a game that has such broad appeal, which is really just "the same but more". Everyone else, the folks who do want to make something shocking and unique will do so at much narrower budgets, which means far narrower marketing budgets (and/or support from publishers), and therefore to much better targeted (and smaller) audiences. Maybe that's GMG, maybe they'll become another game in the SOE Station Pass, or maybe it's someone else (just to rerail  )
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CharlieMopps
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What a terrible post.
Replace those two names with anyone who has made MMOGs before. Replace SOE with any other companies name.
You don't even need to remove the last 2 sentences.
And you would have the exact same results.
Blizzard offshoots? Haven't produced anything of merit. NCSoft? Nope. Gravity? Nope. Turbine? Does Turbine even have offshoots? Mythic is still riding DAOC.
Obviously, you just don't like SOE. Fine. Cool. But the industry is still recycling itself. Eventually we'll get some new blood when people realize the middle section of this post. Could be a while.
I just want something shocking and original. MMORPGs are due for that any day now.
I wasn't talking about their ability to make a good game. EQ2 IS a good game. I was talking about SOE's reputation. You know how many people left Vanguards Beta when they found out Vanguard was being published by SOE? People actually didn't want to play because they didn't want SOE to make money off of them. So many so, Brad had to create a Sticky post downplaying how much of your subscription fee was actually going to SOE. It's a worthy topic. You were obviously never burned by them, but a lot of us were. I really think SOE's name is so tarnished that it's hurting them significantly.
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SnakeCharmer
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Bleh.
If it's a good game, play it. If it's not a good game, don't play it. Should be pretty simple, no?
To not play a game because of someone's or some thing's association (no matter how big or small) is a bit...No..It's alot of stupid.
If anyone is feeling hurt because of a video game, I don't know what to say. Get over it. Move on. Life is too short to hold grudges over something so miniscule as ZOMG THEY LIED ABOUT <whatever zone/playable race/NGE/Trammel/whatever>!!!!! The only person that is going to miss out on a good product is the person boycotting it over who makes it or who is involved with it.
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Numtini
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I agree that it's stupid, but it's also very much there. There are a lot of SOE haters who simply won't go near the company based on stuff from years ago in EQ.
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If you can read this, you're on a board populated by misogynist assholes.
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CharlieMopps
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How about Valve? They've got a top notch reputation, and their patcher/billing system is pretty good. I don't think they've done an MMO yet, but they have to eventually. And there's always the source engine.... 
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Simond
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You know how many people left Vanguards Beta when they found out Vanguard was being published by SOE? People actually didn't want to play because they didn't want SOE to make money off of them. So many so, Brad had to create a Sticky post downplaying how much of your subscription fee was actually going to SOE. It's a worthy topic. You were obviously never burned by them, but a lot of us were. I really think SOE's name is so tarnished that it's hurting them significantly. The hilarity here being, of course, that the vanbois were upset about some actual, real management showing up but then reassured by an off-hand post made by an alleged opium-addict who didn't even know what was happening with 'his' game.
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shiznitz
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You know how many people left Vanguards Beta when they found out Vanguard was being published by SOE? People actually didn't want to play because they didn't want SOE to make money off of them. So many so, Brad had to create a Sticky post downplaying how much of your subscription fee was actually going to SOE. It's a worthy topic. You were obviously never burned by them, but a lot of us were. I really think SOE's name is so tarnished that it's hurting them significantly. The hilarity here being, of course, that the vanbois were upset about some actual, real management showing up but then reassured by an off-hand post made by an alleged opium-addict who didn't even know what was happening with 'his' game. Thank you. I don't think CharlieMopps realized the parody in his post.
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I have never played WoW.
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Blackguard
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What a terrible post.
Replace those two names with anyone who has made MMOGs before. Replace SOE with any other companies name.
You don't even need to remove the last 2 sentences.
And you would have the exact same results.
Blizzard offshoots? Haven't produced anything of merit. NCSoft? Nope. Gravity? Nope. Turbine? Does Turbine even have offshoots? Mythic is still riding DAOC.
Obviously, you just don't like SOE. Fine. Cool. But the industry is still recycling itself. Eventually we'll get some new blood when people realize the middle section of this post. Could be a while.
I just want something shocking and original. MMORPGs are due for that any day now.
QFE.
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Moorgard
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Well, shit. There goes our plan for Jedi Frogloks Online.
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Steve Danuser Creative Director 38 Studios
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Signe
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Shame. I would have SO played a Jedi Froglok. 
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My Sig Image: hath rid itself of this mortal coil.
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schild
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I would have named my froglok 'MoorBlackGuaaard."
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Murgos
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Well, shit. There goes our plan for Jedi Frogloks Online.
You guys need some rabid fanbois. Not too fine a point on it but, I need opening day Sox tickets. I'm sure you know where the 'send PM' button is. 
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Draegan
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I need SuperBowl tickets. I'll shill this game for three years free for SuperBowl tickets.
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I need SuperBowl tickets. I'll shill this game for three years free for SuperBowl tickets.
If I had tickets to this year's Super Bowl, I would be happy to give them to you. I may even pay you to take them off my hands. I love football, but this matchup leaves me aquiver with apathy.
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
Always wear clean underwear because you never know when a Tory Government is going to fuck you.- Ironwood
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Draegan
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I'm a NY Giants homer so I'll take em!
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WayAbvPar
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May God have mercy on your soul. 
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
Always wear clean underwear because you never know when a Tory Government is going to fuck you.- Ironwood
Libertarians make fun of everyone because they can't see beyond the event horizons of their own assholes Surlyboi
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Draegan
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Whats wrong with being a Giants fan?
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HaemishM
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Two words. Tom Coughlin.
Two more words. Eli Manning.
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WayAbvPar
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Two words. Tom Coughlin.
Two more words. Eli Manning.
Got it in one. I would also add Shockey into my loathing, but he is out of the picture this year.
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
Always wear clean underwear because you never know when a Tory Government is going to fuck you.- Ironwood
Libertarians make fun of everyone because they can't see beyond the event horizons of their own assholes Surlyboi
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Draegan
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Ok, well you can't crap on my team without proudly proclaiming who you root for.
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HaemishM
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Packers, bitch.
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Draegan
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Mrbloodworth
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I wonder when we will see something about this game.....
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Draegan
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I remember something about a comic convention sometime this year where McFarlane is going to be. I have no intereste or knowledge of comic books so you can do the leg work :)
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Lucas
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...And "Copernicus" will use Unreal Engine 3 (more jaggies for ya!!! :P) : http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=94047 MMO developer 38 Studios has licensed Epic Studios' Unreal Engine 3 for its first game.
38 Studios is an unusual company. It was formed by Major League Baseball player Curt Schilling, a pitcher for the Boston Red Sox, and named after his jersey number. Schilling is an enormous Everquest and Everquest II fan, which led him to decide to invest some of his baseball earnings in setting up a studio to develop a new MMO.
So far, 38 Studios has signed comics artist Todd McFarlane and fantasy and sci-fi author R. A. Salvatore to lead the creative vision for the new IP, which is destined for "multiple media forms, including a massively multiplayer online game that is currently scheduled for release in late 2010", according to the press release. That means a comic and some action figures, we're guessing. The game's setting will be "fantastical".
"Epic's Unreal Engine 3 is best-of-breed, empowering developers with superior content creation tools, extensive middleware integration, and exceptional visual quality and rendering," said 38 Studios' CEO and President Brett Close. Epic's vice president Jay Wilbur returned the compliment: "38 Studios is comprised of some of the industry's top technological and creative minds, and we look forward to seeing what they do with our engine," he said.
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