WoW Movie

[Signe]

The 5 1/2 minute shown at E3 this year.

http://www.blizzard.com/wow/movies/

[eldaec]

Hmm, looks worse moving than it does in stills.

Textures and models remind me of N64 Zelda.

Animations bring to mind Dungeon Keeper 2.

Spell effects bring to mind something-that-looks-like-ass.

[Morfiend]

WoW's graphics are really a personal preference type of thing. I have the beta, and I absolutly LOVE the graphics. The landscapes are the best I have seen to date.

As far as the cartoony graphics destracting from the game, it really fits perfictly. None of the videos or stills do it justice.

Thats MO.

[eldaec]

I never really minded the stills, maybe it's just the video quality that puts me off.

[HaemishM]

/meh

Unless you are one who creams their jeans over the whole Warcraft setting, I see nothing in there to make me think it'll be anything other than EQ with Warcraft skins, and some more quests. This is coming from someone who thinks the style fits the world; it just doesn't leap out and me as something I care to play.

[Signe]

The graphics in the movie don't do much for me.  The stills, I find, are only marginally better.  I will admit it's cute and I don't mind cute.  I tend to prefer realistic.  Hopefully, the graphics are not the main focus of the game.  I agree that, so far, nothing about the game makes me yearn to play it.  I'm sure I'll still give it a go, eventually, hoping that it will surprise me and actually be fun.  At this point in my MMOG life, all I really want is a bit of diversion and a good laugh.

That's DIVERSION, schild, not DERISION... please be nice to me.  I'm fragile.

[Nebu]

I have to admit that the graphics aren't really to my liking, but I'd consider playing the game if the content was worth experiencing.  As it stands, eveything I've read seems to place WoW as the same old derivative shit that we've all seen time and time again.  Make a game that's watered down to appeal to the masses and add content to attract the powergaming catasses en masse.

What makes me want to run from this game at full speed are the hoards of raving fanbois flocking to it like flies.  I tend to be a social whore when it comes to mmog's.  The sheer thought of trying to interact with the likes of what I've see on the Blizzard boards makes me want to eat my liver with a spork.  I fear that teh stupid will be out in force on launch day.

[Mesozoic]

The sheer thought of trying to interact with the likes of what I've see on the Blizzard boards makes me want to eat my liver with a spork.

Yeah, because other offical boards are populated by Nobel Prize winners.

I thought we all just assumed that official boards are filled with asshats.  When did "I saw stupid on a board" become a condemnation of a game?    To me, if the worst thing you can find about a game is that their boards are filled with idiots, then thats a ringing endorsement.

[Riggswolfe]

Morphiend,

I agree with you about the graphics. I was worried about them but since I've started beta they've grown on me. It almost feels like I'm playing in an anime and it fits the world. The graphics have...personality. I like realistic grahpics usually, but somehow these feel more alive. I don't know how to describe it.

As for gameplay. I never played EQ so don't know if it is an EQ-clone. I know there is very, very little downtime and that I've rarely run into mobs that are "camped".

As for the fanbois. I have yet to run into one in beta. I've also noticed that the fanbois are the ones complaining about the monthly fee so I'm hoping that'll weed them out. Besides, as someone else has said I dare you to find any game that doesn't have messageboards populated by the dregs of society.

[Nebu]

Yeah, because other offical boards are populated by Nobel Prize winners.

I thought we all just assumed that official boards are filled with asshats.  When did "I saw stupid on a board" become a condemnation of a game?    To me, if the worst thing you can find about a game is that their boards are filled with idiots, then thats a ringing endorsement.

There's no escaping "teh stupid", it's everywhere.  I just thought it was obvious that the amounts of it varied from site to site and game to game.  It's the reason that most of us post here.

I have no doubt that some very good and very intelligent people will play WoW.  I'm just not sure I'm up to the task of wading through the rest to find them.  I stated before that I would be willing to try this game if the mechanics were such to warrant it.  I rely on articulate people like yourself to educate me on what it is that makes WoW worth playing.  I've read quite a bit and discussed the game with a number of people that I respect and I still fail to find anything engaging about the title.  So far it just looks like another derivative treadmill built to cater to the powergaming catass.  

I'd love to be proven wrong and discover that WoW is a well-crafted mmog that I enjoy.  In the meantime, I'm going to continue to follow WoW to release and remain skeptical.

[Rasix]

As for the fanbois. I have yet to run into one in beta. I've also noticed that the fanbois are the ones complaining about the monthly fee so I'm hoping that'll weed them out. Besides, as someone else has said I dare you to find any game that doesn't have messageboards populated by the dregs of society.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[HaemishM]

Fanbois, the plural of fanboy. At least, that's how I always use it.

EDIT: Or the pluarl of fanboi if that is your bent.

[Rasix]

I was more or less commenting on the use of fanboi in the place of "slathering idiot" or "complete mmorpg noob".  But I guess Blizzard fanboi fits the description for the above.  

PLUS I WANTED TO THINK ABOUT PRINCESS BRIDE FOR A BIT. IS THAT SO WRONG?

[Furiously]

That HaemishM, he can fuss

[HaemishM]

INCONCEIVABLE!

[Furiously]

I think he likes to scream at us.

[Furiously]

Probably he means no harm

[Furiously]

He's really very short on charm.

*Extremely sorry for the derailment - and the 4 posts in a row.
The above was a series of quotes from the Princess Bride and not really directed at Hammy.

[Signe]

Haemish reminds me of my husband and I find him  very charming... in that "If you don't shuddup I'll stuff a hand grenade up your arse" sort of way.  Of course, some of us girls like a bit of rough.

Edit: ooh!  I think I may just have invented the arse grenade!

[WayAbvPar]

Heh- it was worth it for a chuckle.

[Rasix]

No more rhymes now, I mean it!

[Furiously]

Anybody want a peanut?

[Rasix]

*screams*

[Anonymous]

I think we can stop the word games now.  I'm sure someone thinks they are clever.  That someone is not myself, sadly.

*clears throat meaningfully*

WoW movie.  Topic.  Got it?

I've seen The Princess Bride.  I'm not sure what loose association TPB has with WoW, other than demonstrating you have wasted more space than is required on storing quotes to regurgitate in an unwarranted l33t contest on a forum.  If you want offtopic spam, I recommend you locate forums with a more tolerant moderation staff.  Got it?

[geldonyetich]

Not quite word games, they're The Princess Bride quotes.    Hard to believe that movie was made in the 80s - you should see it if you've never done so in the past.

Anywho, yes, I probably should actually take the time to view the WoW movie...  Having just viewed it, I have to say that it's pretty much what I expected.  

Graphics are fine.   You may not like that they're a little blocky, but that's for performance reasons and an extremely good call in a MMORPG.   You may not like the style, but it's clear that they have set out to create a very Warcraft-like appearance to the graphical style, and they've achieved that.    The environment looks very detailed, and the cities look like they're the most detailed in any MMORPG I've seen yet (and I've played EQ and FFXI).  

Gameplay worries me.   Combat appears to be old school "everybody in party focus on a single mob" gameplay.   They staged a few events where players are attacking hoardes of mobs, but you'll notice that hte players have to single them out.    There doesn't seem to be nearly the flexibility to combat that I've grown accustomed to from City of Heroes.    I heard you have three bars, one for health, one for mana, and one for special moves - there needs to be more innovation to the standard EQ-clone formula than that.

Being able to fly a griffin and having dance moves are fluff.

[HaemishM]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the griffon flying not free-form? I.e. it's more like DAoC's horse routes than CoH flying?

[ClydeJr]

I don't think I would mind the gameplay if it feels like I'm doing something or going somewhere the entire time. I don't want to hang around a camp and kill 1000 foozles to get the next level. However, if I have a quest where I need to work through a dungeon and kill 1000 foozles in order to get the Black Widget of Doom to finish a quest, I don't mind as much. I want to feel like I'm doing something, not just mindlessly camping a mob spawn.

BTW, watch the movie "Man on Fire" to see an arse grenade in action.

[Morfiend]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the griffon flying not free-form? I.e. it's more like DAoC's horse routes than CoH flying?

You are correct, the Griffons/Bats are disturbingly reminisiant of the DAoC horse rides. But WoW has taken steps to remove the tedium. In my play time I have only found short rides, IE a few minutes at max. For the long trips they have Zepplins, but the graphics are not implemented, and they teleport you instantly right now, they are not sure what the flight lenght is going to be like at release.

Also, at level 40, you can get your own free roaming ground mount, but no one has tested them yet, as the level cap right now is level 39. In the next push, that is comming possibly tomorrow, they are raising the level cap to 45, so mounts will be tested.

However, if I have a quest where I need to work through a dungeon and kill 1000 foozles in order to get the Black Widget of Doom to finish a quest, I don't mind as much. I want to feel like I'm doing something, not just mindlessly camping a mob spawn.

That is just what wow is like. So far the only camping I have done is for a quest, and that is like 10 or 15 minutes to get all the drops you need to finish the quests.

In a group these kind of quests can take a bit longer, but the longest I have ever sat at one spawn as 20 minutes, and that was in a group of 6.

[schild]

In a group these kind of quests can take a bit longer, but the longest I have ever sat at one spawn as 20 minutes, and that was in a group of 6.

Ding, wrong answer. In a quest that requires quest objects that a group can join together on, everyone should get the drop the first time. That better be changed.

[Morfiend]

In a group these kind of quests can take a bit longer, but the longest I have ever sat at one spawn as 20 minutes, and that was in a group of 6.

Ding, wrong answer. In a quest that requires quest objects that a group can join together on, everyone should get the drop the first time. That better be changed.

Well, it depends on the type of quest.

In most cases, quest items drop for the whole group, first time. But there is one type of quest, where you are tasked with say, Gather 5 arm bands from the Scarlett Crusade.
In this case, they are semi rare drops, where you get the arm band drop about 1 in 3 kills. These type of quest do not share the quest drop items. Now, Im not sure why only in this case they dont.

[Comstar]

You know what I saw?

Vast Cities.

Vast terrian vistas.

Vast dungeons.


All EMPTY vast spectales. I well rembemer the vast impressive cities of EVerquest's first year. At least you had some NPC's walking around a bit, but apart from Qeynos, Outside Freeport and the Wood Elf Spamathon, very few people inside them (the ones I rembemer most getting a shock at seeing another player was the Gnome and Dwarf underground cities).

[Soukyan]

In a group these kind of quests can take a bit longer, but the longest I have ever sat at one spawn as 20 minutes, and that was in a group of 6.

Ding, wrong answer. In a quest that requires quest objects that a group can join together on, everyone should get the drop the first time. That better be changed.

Well, it depends on the type of quest.

In most cases, quest items drop for the whole group, first time. But there is one type of quest, where you are tasked with say, Gather 5 arm bands from the Scarlett Crusade.
In this case, they are semi rare drops, where you get the arm band drop about 1 in 3 kills. These type of quest do not share the quest drop items. Now, Im not sure why only in this case they dont.

As long as that does not become the standard but rather remains the antiquated exception that is never implemented again. Otherwise, 1 in 3 or 1 in 300, it's lame. I left DAoC because they moved toward that paradigm and not away from it as originally intended... pity.

[tanandae]

You know what I saw?

Vast Cities.

Vast terrian vistas.

Vast dungeons.


All EMPTY vast spectales. I well rembemer the vast impressive cities of EVerquest's first year. At least you had some NPC's walking around a bit, but apart from Qeynos, Outside Freeport and the Wood Elf Spamathon, very few people inside them (the ones I rembemer most getting a shock at seeing another player was the Gnome and Dwarf underground cities).

The "vast terrain vistas" can be lightly populated to empty. But I would call them vast. Land mass is smaller and more denseley populated than say, DAoC, but not with players clumped together in single spots (i.e. DAoC has zones with nothing to do in 90% of the land, and 1 or 2 camp spots in a zone)

However, the cities and dungeons are very populated with players. I suspect a non-public server was used to create the movie.

[Mesozoic]

Re: mounts.  

The flying mounts are DAoC-style medevial mass transit.  Unlike DAoC, the game will launch with ownable mounts for PCs.

[Sky]

You can't bitch about player population from a movie recorded during a beta test phase, can you? Well, I guess you can.

However, if I have a quest where I need to work through a dungeon and kill 1000 foozles in order to get the Black Widget of Doom to finish a quest, I don't mind as much.

I get to foozle #20 or so and that's where I get bored by the repetition and log out to play a fun game.