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							Nothing but love for trem bars here. I wish I sounded like  this. MBV is sex. I've always dug the more  traditional stuff as well. The guy who taught how to play was an old surf guitarist, and that's never left me. And I freakin' love those  harmonic dives Dimebag used to pull off. They're the only reason why I'd want a shredder axe. Otherwise, Jazzmasters and Jags are fine by me. I like pretty much whatever I can do to warp guitar sounds. Whether it be with different tunings or effects or slides or trem bars.   
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							I'm in the market for an acoustic resonator. If it's old an worn, that's great since I'll be using it for slide guitar. I don't mind buying online since I can be less particular about quality since it'll be set up for slide.
  If you guys are selling one, or happen to see one, let me know?
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							You can get new ones pretty cheap.  Or relatively cheap. I mean, you're not going find anything good for $50 if that's what you're after. I wouldn't even recommend any of those off brands under $200. Here's the cheapest  Regal for $260.  
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							Yeah, I'm looking at the 200-300 dollar range. I don't have any experience with guitar makers other than the big names. Do you have any good info on lower end guitar makers? I'm not good enough to take advantage of having a really nice guitar. I sound the same either way.
  edit: Also, what about ebaying instruments? Any experience with that? 
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							Regal is good (they range from semi-budget to pricey). They're one of the only companies that specializes in them these days (and they've been around since the 30's).
  National/Dobro is the more expensive brand. The truly old school resonator maker. They're owned by Gibson now. Don't bother though -- Their cheapest instruments are still in the $1000 range.
  Fender is Fender. I've messed with them a bunch in stores. Servicable quality like their acoustics, but nothing to get crazy about. You can't really go wrong with one though.
 
  Off brands are crap like "Rogue" that you see at GC or Musicians Friend. Sometimes another store may have the same exact Korean made guitars under a different brand name. Don't bother. Don't buy electrics, acoustics, or anything else from these companies. You're lucky if they're even set up right when you get them -- or even warped -- and even if they are, they'll magically fall apart in your hands eventually. Don't buy off brand electronics either (even practice amps). They'll crap out on you and sound like shit anyways. 
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							Thanks Stray. I'll see if I can find a Regal around here. I'm excited to get a resonator because I love the sound they give my blues, and if I develop my slide stuff I'll have a real good time. My biggest problem with slide is an alternating bass line. I've started to play with fingerpicks, but I broke my hand in a motorcycle accident once and my ring finger doesn't cooperate well. With any luck I'll be able to work with a two finger setup. 
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							I can't do alternating bass lines with slide. A whole lot of pros can't either. Hell, not even Robert Johnson did that (though he'd move to bass parts at the closing of a verse or whatnot, or maybe just do a simple pluck on the open bottom string).
  [EDIT] Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. 
  If you're going for pick heavy slide playing, you're going to have more difficulty alternating through certain types of bass parts. Picking is better for focusing on leads.
  If you want a fuller rhythm slide sound with bass parts, drop the pick. Pluck everything. 
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							I'm tuned to open D, and my typical playing is something like a low D bass line, then work my way up the strings for licks and back down to the D for a bass line. I don't sing at all, so I use the high D(and other strings, but mainly the D) like my vocal and the low D in between. That's how I get around alternating bass.
  While I'm not as loud without a pick, I pretty much play with a bare thumb and forefinger. 
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							Hmm, can't say I give much advice for open D. 
  I play open D a lot, but rarely do it for sliding (I like open E and G, and even this weird Gm tuning I sort of..made up. I think.). 
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							Nothing but love for trem bars here. I wish I sounded like  this. MBV is sex. I've always dug the more  traditional stuff as well. The guy who taught how to play was an old surf guitarist, and that's never left me. And I freakin' love those  harmonic dives Dimebag used to pull off. They're the only reason why I'd want a shredder axe. Otherwise, Jazzmasters and Jags are fine by me. I like pretty much whatever I can do to warp guitar sounds. Whether it be with different tunings or effects or slides or trem bars.  I'm still upset whenever I see a Dime vid, such a waste.  Tom Morello is also one for making sounds that don't sound like he's playing it on a guitar. The Dragonforce guys have some  excellent whammy tricks too. I can't get enough of Dragonforce, video game music+ridiculously fast dual lead shredding+tons of tricks=teh fun.  Doubt anyone else here is into metal as much as I am, but for that type of music the ESP Ltd range is the best quality and guitars for the 300-900GBP bracket, played 3 or 4 of the models and they've all played and sounded really nice, on the higher end Korean made Ltds you get original brand electronics and hardware too (EMGs, original Floyd's and other bridges, Sperzel tuners etc), something lacking from most other makes at that price.    
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							Hmm, can't say I give much advice for open D. 
  I play open D a lot, but rarely do it for sliding (I like open E and G, and even this weird Gm tuning I sort of..made up. I think.).
  Iirc, open D and E are just a whole step different, same intervals. Open G is the oddball (and the one I play in, because lots of the delta blues guys used it). You could also look into clawhammer banjo style, it only uses thumb + 1, again iirc.  
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							The voicing just sits with me better in Open E. It's just one of those weird things...
  The tension level on my guitars is better set up for the tightness of E as well. It just doesn't feel right sliding in D to me. I play completely different in D.
  
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							My open G guitar is set up wicked high action and like a friggin' high tension wire. Great for sliding, though. 
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							Guitar-ish question:
  I've been wanting to start 'playing' again.  'Playing' being used very loosely.  Problem is, I don't have anyone to noodle or jam around with.  I'm mostly selftaught, and pretty much suck.  But I enjoy(ed) it nonetheless.  Anyway, what I am looking for is something that I can throw a CD in or other media in which music is saved, start it up, and play along with it with my guitar mixed in.  The ghetto version would just be to turn up my stereo to a decent level to match my amp, but that's not really feasible with a 5.5 month old in the house.  Something that mixes the guitar/amp with the music and with a headphone output would be ideal.
  Anything like that, or am I SOL? 
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							Tascam has this guitar trainer thing I've seen around. I haven't used it though, so I'm not sure if it works well.  http://www.tascam.com/Products/cdgt1mkii.htmlBasically, it's a portable CD player that allows you to "cancel" out guitar sounds on CD's, so you can jam along with songs (I'm really not sure how it accomplishes that, since there aren't multiple tracks for CD audio). Basically, it's karaoke for guitarists. It also allows you to change tempo and loop parts to help you learn riffs better.  
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							Very cool, that's exactly what I was looking for - thanks.  Good set of earphones and I'll be living arena rock dreams in my living room and scaring the shit out of the dog. 
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							And what about keyboards? I was thinking of buying one to use for input to a computer. I'd want a semi-nice once, but I don't know the first thing about them. I'd expect it to have a few different sounds, i.e. piano and synth and strings. I really dont know what I'm looking at as far as keyboards go, so if you've got any experience I'd appreciate it. 
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							This may seem like a ghetto choice, but you really can't go wrong just starting with a simple Yamaha. They have enough decent, built in instruments to have fun with, as well as MIDI connectivity to expand on that. Most of them usually come with helpful training materials, so you can at least throw down some chords in no time. Just get something with at least 61 keys and you'll be set. 
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							I dunno, I really want to get a keyboard for the old lady. She used to play, and now she feels I'm pressuring her too much. Hell, I just want someone to jam with, and she only needs three chords to get up and running on the blues, I'm not expecting Billy Powell (Skynyrd, great keyboarder). My motto is 'if you had bought (instrument x) when you first said you wanted to, you'd have been playing for (x years) already!'. The president of our blues society got that one last week when he was pining away about playing bass.
  You just gotta jump in feet first and swim to shore, imo. Best way to learn is to start playing. 
  Anyway, I want to get something with full keys and good weights so it feels like a real piano. Good natural piano sound, maybe a leslie sound, probably wouldn't need any other gadgety stuff. Looks like anything decent is in the $1000+ range. 
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							Cool on the whole, gets a bit too jazzy for my tastes. I like the kinda darker tone, though. I've been too lax in recording to share :(
  I've written a couple nice stubs, though. Good beginnings to songs, seeds. I'm just not used to doing all the fleshing and finishing by myself, curse of having a band full of talented writers. I'd bring in a stub and have a full song an hour later. 
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							Oh snappity snap. We hosted a jazz night with a great local musician last week, my band had recorded our only studio work with him in Jan 91. On a lark (because one of my core beliefs is the closed mouth does not get fed), I asked if he still had our master laying around. Not only did he remember the session, he said he had the tape. I didn't post it here, because I frankly didn't want to get my hopes up. We had little money and he said he was probably going to record over the master. The last copy I had of that tape was one a fan had given me and went missing (ok, stolen) a solid twelve years ago. Just got back from the studio, master in hand!     :-D   Now the problem is getting it off this 8-track reel to digital files so I can remix it to cd and try to look up my old band members' addresses and sent them this incredible find out of the blue. It's a goddamned good day...hopefully I can find someone to do the transfer...I still can't believe it and I'm looking at the tape.  
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							Posted this from gak, maybe 1998. Off analog tape. Tune's still fun though.
  You say it like it's a bad thing. I liked the sound of it, I favor rough live-sounding recordings. Was always getting into trouble when I was in school for that. Might be my favorite of yours, nice and vibrant, and as you say, rockin'.  
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							Just got a new 12-string acoustic by Carlo Robelli.  Sam Ash was giving them away.  Now I just need to learn how to play. 
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							I was adding a half dozen tunes to my fakebook tonight (prompted by the Paul Simon Gershwin Prize special on PBS) and I thought I would post the song list. I can play anything on this list, to varying degrees of competency depending on how recently I have played it and how often I play it. That's with the book in front of me, of course. No book, and all bets are off. :)
  The book was designed after The Fat Man's famous fakebook from his 20-year running jam session in Austin. My song list has almost no overlap with his, however. Basically, it's built for drunken singalongs, campfires, song circles, that sort of thing. You'll notice a lot of the singer-songwriter stuff I like. Euro readers will note that there is actually a recent a-ha song in there (American readers will be dismayed and somewhat boggled). Also, there's an Xmas tunes section at the back, but I didn't bother listing it.
  PS, yes, I know, I am missing a ton of Beatles stuff that ought to be in there.
  0-9 1952 Vincent Black Lightning - Richard Thompson 3,000 Miles  Ellis Paul 32 Flavors  Ani diFranco
  A Across the Universe  The Beatles Addicted to Love  Robert Palmer Africa  Toto Afterglow - INXS Against All Odds  Phil Collins Aint No Sunshine  Bill Withers All Along the Watchtower - Bob Dylan Alleluia - Dar Williams Allentown  - Billy Joel America  Simon & Garfunkel American Tune  Paul Simon A Most Peculiar Man  Simon & Garfunkel And She Was  Talking Heads Angel From Montgomery  John Prine Angeline  James McMurtry Another Folk Song - Uncle Bonsai Ants Marching  Dave Matthews Band April Come She Will - Simon and Garfunkel Are You Happy Now?  Richard Shindell Are You Out There - Dar Williams As Close to Flying - Christine Lavin
  B Babys Gone Blues  Reckless Kelly Bad to the Bone  George Thorogood Bamboleo  Gipsy Kings The Bare Necessities  Jungle Book movie Beautiful Wreck  Shawn Mullins Because the Night  Bruce Springsteen Beer Run  Todd Snider Bein' Green  The Muppet Movie Biko  Peter Gabriel Billie Jean - Michael Jackson Billy From The Hills - Greg Brown Birches - Bill Morrissey Black Horse and the Cherry Tree  KT Tunstall Black Sheep  Martin Sexton Blacktop Train  Ellis Paul Black Velvet  Alannah Myles Blister in the Sun - Violent Femmes Blood and Fire - Indigo Girls Blow Em Away  Chuck Brodsky Blowin in the Wind - Bob Dylan Born to Be Wild - Steppenwolf Boy in the Bubble - Paul Simon A Boy Named Sue  Johnny Cash Boys of Summer  - Don Henley Breakfast at Tiffany's - Deep Blue Something Bridge Over Troubled Water  Simon & Garfunkel Broken Wings  Mr. Mister Brown Eyed Girl  Van Morrison Burning Down the House  Talking Heads
  C California Dreamin - The Mamas and the Papas Castanets - Alejandro Escovedo Cat Came Back - Harry S. Miller Cat Came Back (Muppets version) Cats in the Cradle - Harry Chapin Center Stage - Indigo Girls The Chain  Fleetwood Mac Changed the Locks - Lucinda Williams Christians and the Pagans - Dar Williams Chrome Plated Heart - Melissa Etheridge Cinnamon Girl  Neil Young Closer to Fine - Indigo Girls Close to You  The Carpenters Comes Love  Billie Holiday Come Together  The Beatles Coming Up for Air - Patty Larkin Conversation With a Ghost  Ellis Paul Copacabana - Barry Manilow Copperhead Road  Steve Earle Cradle and All  Ani diFranco Crime for Crime  Ani diFranco
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  G Get Right With God  Lucinda Williams Ghostbusters  Ray Parker Jr Ghost of a Dog  Edie Brickell & The New Bohemians Gimme Some Lovin  Spencer Davis Group Give me One Reason - Tracy Chapman Glory Bound  Martin Sexton Goin Down Judah  Dana Cooper Good Morning Coffee - Greg Brown Goodnight Saigon  - Billy Joel Good Thing  Patty Larkin Graceland - Paul Simon Great Day in the Morning  Dana Cooper Grizzly Bear  Bill Morrissey Gypsy Woman  Martin Sexton
  H Happy Days  TV Theme Hard to Handle  Otis Redding He Said, She Said - Loudon Wainwright III Hearts and Bones - Paul Simon Here Comes the Rain Again  - The Eurythmics Homeward Bound - Simon & Garfunkel Honesty  Billy Joel Honky Tonk Women  The Rolling Stones Horse with No Name - America Hotel California  - The Eagles Hound Dog - Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller Houses in the Fields  -  John Gorka
  I I Can See Clearly Now  Johnny Nash I Love Rock N Roll  Joan Jett Imagine  John Lennon Im On Fire  Bruce Springsteen In The Living Years  Mike & the Mechanics In Your Eyes  Peter Gabriel I Shot the Sheriff  Bob Marley and the Wailers Istanbul (Not Constantinople)  They Might Be Giants I Still Havent Found What Im Looking For - U2 I Told Him That My Dog Wouldn't Run - Patty Larkin I Walk the Line  Johnny & June Carter Cash I Wanna Be Sedated  - Ramones I Want To Hold Your Hand  The Beatles I Will Survive  Gloria Gaynor If I Had Known - Greg Brown Iko Iko I'm a Lumberjack - Monty Python I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) - The Proclaimers In the Air Tonight - Phil Collins Iowa (Traveling III) - Dar Williams It's the End of the World As We Know It - REM
  J Jack and Diane - John Mellencamp Jet Plane  John Denver Johnny Rottentail  Amy Ray The Joker  Steve Miller Band
  K Kathy's Song - Simon and Garfunkel Keep the Customer Satisfied  Simon & Garfunkel The Kid  Buddy Mondlock
  L Landslide  Fleetwood Mac Late in the Evening  Paul Simon Layla  Eric Clapton Leave it Like it Is - David Wilcox Lemon Tree  Peter, Paul & Mary Lets Call the Whole Thing Off  Gershwin Life by the Drop - Stevie Ray Vaughan Life in a Northern Town  - Dream Academy Lightning Crashes  Live Live Free or Die  Bill Morrissey Logical Song - Supertramp Long Ride Home - Patty Griffin Losing My Religion  - REM Love Keep Us Together  Martin Sexton Love Shack  B-52s Lovesong  The Cure Luka - Suzanne Vega
  M Makin' Whoopee  Ray Charles Marlene on the Wall  Suzanne Vega Me and Julio Down by the Schoolyard - Paul Simon Meanies  Jim Infantino Mercedes Benz  Janis Joplin Message in a Bottle - The Police Metal Drums  Patty Larkin The Mickey Mouse Club March  TV Theme Money for Nothing - Dire Straits Moon Over Bourbon Street - Sting Moondance - Van Morrison Moonshadow - Cat Stevens Moses  Patty Griffin Movin' Out - Billy Joel Movin' Right Along - The Muppet Movie Muppet Show Theme Song My Wife Thinks Youre Dead  Junior Brown
  N Need You Tonight  INXS New York State of Mind - Billy Joel No Man's Land - Billy Joel No One Is To Blame  Howard Jones Not a Pretty Girl  Ani diFranco
  O Ocean -  Dar Williams Ode to Billie Joe  Bobby Gentry Old Time Rock n Roll  Bob Seger One of Us  Joan Osborne Only the Good Die Young - Billy Joel Orinoco Flow  Enya
  P Peggy-O  Traditional Perfectly Good Guitar  John Hiatt Poet Game - Greg Brown Pretty Vegas  INXS Pride and Joy - Stevie Ray Vaughan Prince of Darkness - Indigo Girls Puttin on the Ritz  Irving Berlin The Rainbow Connection  The Muppets Ready for the Storm  Dougie McLean Reasons Why  Nickel Creek The Remedy  Jason Mraz Richard Cory - Paul Simon The Road Goes On Forever  Robert Earl Keen Robert Johnson - Bill Morrissey Rock This Town - Stray Cats Romeo and Juliet - Dire Straits Rosanna  Toto Roxanne  The Police Runnin' Down a Dream - Tom Petty Rusty Old American Dream - David Wilcox
  S Sad Lisa  Cat Stevens Saga Begins  - "Weird Al" Yankovic St. Judys Comet  Paul Simon Santa Ana Winds  Survivor Scarborough Fair - Simon and Garfunkel Scenes from an Italian Restaurant  Billy Joel Scream  Todd McKimmey Sensitive New Age Guys  Christine Lavin Shame on You  - Indigo Girls Shes No Lady  Lyle Lovett Shes Your Baby Now  Bill Morrissey Shotgun Down the Avalanche  Shawn Colvin Should I Stay or Should I Go - The Clash Shy  Ani diFranco Sing  Sesame Street Sledgehammer  Peter Gabriel Slip Slidin' Away - Paul Simon Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana So Far Away  - Dire Straits Solsbury Hill - Peter Gabriel Something to Talk About - Bonnie Raitt Somewhere Over the Rainbow  Judy Garland Song for a Deck Hands Daughter  James McMurtry Son of a Preacher Man  Dusty Springfield Space Oddity  David Bowie Spider-Man  TV Theme Stand  REM Stand By Me  Ben E. King Stayin Alive  The Bee Gees Still Crazy After All These Years - Paul Simon Strange Fire - Indigo Girls Stray Cat Strut  The Stray Cats Strings of Wings  Karen Goldberg Strong Chemistry - David Wilcox Sultans of Swing  - Dire Straits Summer, Highland Falls  Billy Joel Summer Moved On - a-ha Summer of 69  Bryan Adams Summertime  George Gershwin Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) - The Eurythmics Sweet Home Alabama  Lynyrd Skynyrd
  T Take Me Home  Phil Collins Take On Me - A-ha Talkin at the Texaco  James McMurtry Talkin' Bout A Revolution  Tracy Chapman Talkin Seattle Grunge Rock Blues  Todd Snider Tangled Up in Blue  - Bob Dylan Tears in Heaven  Eric Clapton Tempted  Squeeze Thats All  Genesis Thats My Toy  Steve Fisher Thats Right (Youre Not From Texas)  Lyle Lovett These Boots Are Made For Walkin  Nancy Sinatra These Cold Fingers  Bill Morrissey The Way It Is  - Bruce Hornsby and the Range The Whole Of The Moon  The Waterboys Thirteen Step Boogie  Martin Sexton Thriller - Michael Jackson Time Bomb  Reckless Kelly Time After Time  Cyndi Lauper Tom's Diner - Suzanne Vega Too Long in the Wasteland  James McMurtry Total Eclipse of the Heart  Bonnie Tyler Train in the Distance  Paul Simon Trees  Marty Casey Twist and Shout  Isley Brothers Two Princes  Spin Doctors
  U Unknown Legend  Neil Young Up Until Then - John Gorka
  V Velvet  a-ha Veronica - Elvis Costello
  W Waiting for the Rain  Bill Morrissey Wake Up Little Susie  Everly Brothers Walk of Life  - Dire Straits Walking in Memphis - Marc Cohn Waltzing With Bears  Dr. Seuss Washington Work Song - disappear fear Way Over Yonder in the Minor Key - Woody Guthrie/Billy Bragg We Cant Dance  Genesis We Didn't Start the Fire - Billy Joel Welcome Me - Indigo Girls What a Wonderful World  Louis Armstrong What I Am  Edie Brickell & The New Bohemians What I Like About You  The Romantics Whats Up?  4 Non Blondes When Fall Comes to New England  - Cheryl Wheeler When I Was a Boy - Dar Williams When Love Comes To Town  U2 When You Love Somebody and They Dick You Around, Doesn't That Really Suck - David Wilcox Where Have All the Flowers Gone - Pete Seeger Where the Streets Have No Name - U2 Whip It  Devo Who Will Save Your Soul?  Jewel Who Woulda Thunk It? - Greg Brown Why Aye Man  Mark Knopfler Wicked Game    - Chris Isaak Wild Abandon  Damion Schubert Wild Night  Van Morrison Wild World - Cat Stevens With or Without You - U2 The World Aint Slowing Down  Ellis Paul World Falls - Indigo Girls Wrapped Around Your Finger  The Police
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  Y YMCA  The Village People Yoda  - "Weird Al" Yankovic You Can Call Me Al - Paul Simon You Can Sleep While I Drive - Melissa Etheridge You Can't Always Get What You Want - The Rolling Stones You Never Get What You Want  Patty Griffin Youre the One That I Want  Grease You Shook Me All Night Long  AC/DC
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							That's a good idea I should lift since I've been jotting tunes in a notebook anyway. I've got a dozen or two songs listed, mostly for lyrics, though I can't sing and play simultaneously on all but a couple (Hootchie Cootchie Man, Mannish Boy, Kind Hearted Woman Blues (ala Thorogood)). I also know the bulk of a couple more tunes without the fake book, Since I've Been Loving You by Zep is my favorite, though song form and I share an uneasy truce. Me likee jammy.
  Dickey Betts was on HDNet again, his gig at the R&R hall of fame. I love jamming along with that show as it really stretches my major key jamming and I improve with every show. Then he kicks in Liz Reed in the middle of the set and I just crush it and cry at my crappy major key skills (Liz Reed being a minor key song with extended jams).
  +2 SkyPts for Life By The Drop. Should sub Simple Man for Sweet Home Alabama imo. Also, you should learn Melissa by the Allmans (in my fakebook!), good, simple acoustic jam. Lots of good tunes on the list, though!
  Hmm. I'm actually inspired. Thanks, Raph.  
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							You need to make fakebook entries for:
  Queen Jane Approximately - Bob Dylan
  Radio Radio - Elvis Costello and The Attractions
  X-Ray - The Kinks 
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							I can't drop Sweet Home Alabama, it's exactly the sort of tune that everyone knows and wants in the fakebook. Heck, I should add Freebird. :P
  Righ, none of those three are ones I know really.
  
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							How about Uneasy Rider by Charlie Daniels?  :-D 
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							Righ, none of those three are ones I know really.
  Okay, how about: Question - Moody Blues (cool Cdim, G7sus, C) Red House - everybody, not least Hendrix Xanadu - Olivia Newton John Okay, I'm just trying to complete your alphabet. ;)  
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							Nix on Red House. Decent enough song, but the blues catalog has SO many better tunes, especially for campfirey applications. Go for something pre-war and funny like I'm a Doctor for Women by Champion Jack Dupree or Brown Skin Shuffle by Big Bill Broonzy.
  You could also go for Guster's X-Ray Eyes to flesh out X. And add Airport song while you're adding Guster, that's a cool acoustic tune.
  This is fun. I forgot to jot down the contents of my nascent fakebook. Inspiration...it comes and goes for me. 
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							Hmm. So, I imagine that for you guys some of these tunes fill the same role as the Ellis Paul and Greg Brown tunes do for me. But I barely get to slip those in when doing the jam sessions, and I don't really expect otherwise -- because nobody knows them. :)
  The popular songs are the ones people know from their teen years, basically. :) Among the Cub Scouts, the little kids all want Weird Al "Saga Begins" and (boggle) "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree." The older parents want Simon & Garfunkel. The younger parents want Talking Heads and Police, unless they are sensitive or liberal types, in which case they also want Simon & Garfunkel. (In general, actually, most everyone wants Simon & Garfunkel or Paul Simon -- talk about cross-generational appeal...) 
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							Hmm. So, I imagine that for you guys some of these tunes fill the same role as the Ellis Paul and Greg Brown tunes do for me. But I barely get to slip those in when doing the jam sessions, and I don't really expect otherwise -- because nobody knows them. :)
  The popular songs are the ones people know from their teen years, basically. :) Among the Cub Scouts, the little kids all want Weird Al "Saga Begins" and (boggle) "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree." The older parents want Simon & Garfunkel. The younger parents want Talking Heads and Police, unless they are sensitive or lebal types, in which case they also want Simon & Garfunkel. (In general, actually, most everyone wants Simon & Garfunkel or Paul Simon -- talk about cross-generational appeal...)
  I think it's a matter of having different lists for different purposes.  I have a set of songs I play for myself (depending on mood and lesson goal) and song lists tailored for my audience.  I don't play out as much as I used to, but have played a large variety of gigs.  If I'm playing a coffee house, I have different solo sets than if I play with a friend for example.  I'll also play very different tunes at a bar gig than I would at a wedding... though I'm sure this is all common sense.   I like your list though.  It shows a great deal of variety for both you and your audience.    
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							Yeah, sorry. I'm an artist, not a DJ :P In fact, that's what really pissed off the DJ I used to work with, he thought I was so good at it but in the end I couldn't just sit and play music I was so tired of just because someone else loves it. And the metric we always used was to gauge the age of the audience and play stuff from their high school years. Works every time. Maybe not surprisingly, it doesn't work real well for me...
  I have made some compromises because I'm building a basic set to play at the blues open mics, but even those are songs I dig anyway. I'd rather play other stuff, but you have to start on the standards and work your way out from their as you get to know some of the guys. It's kind of a rite of passage, if you can rock Hootchie Cootchie Man, you're in. I do think I have a workaround with Early In The Morning by Junior Wells because a newer band likes to play that one.
  If I could play and sing simultaneously, all bets would be off. Bringing the metal grit and volume to blues is friggin' awesome, especially when all but a couple of the other singers have that generic white guy blues voice. 
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