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Reply #2065 on: October 22, 2020, 07:06:08 PM

Finally caved and begun to use guitar plugins. Using Neural DSP and wow what a game changer. Using Archtype Nolly, Nameless, and Corey Wong.

They have a free 2 week trial for all their plugins.

https://neuraldsp.com/

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Reply #2066 on: October 23, 2020, 08:31:45 AM

Finally caved and begun to use guitar plugins. Using Neural DSP and wow what a game changer. Using Archtype Nolly, Nameless, and Corey Wong.

They have a free 2 week trial for all their plugins.

https://neuraldsp.com/
Cool, I look forward to hearing more about your experiments. I personally dislike technology in my setup, though to be fair I don't have a setup conducive to using tech for music right now.

I did mess around with the ASIO mod for Rocksmith, which allows me to connect my DAC to use as both DAC and monitor, which is cool. Except my flat response recording headphones lose the thump of playing through my sound system, so.... It does reduce latency and sound better, just not rockin' enough für mich.

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Reply #2067 on: March 11, 2021, 09:00:18 AM

I don't know how I managed to play bass for almost 4 decades and not get exposed to flat-wound strings.

I'm normally not too fussed about strings, I leave them on until they break or begin corroding. My SG bass still had its factory strings on it! I'm not really a 'gear guy', keep it simple and have fun has always been my motto. Since I've been playing a lot of bass the last couple years, I decided to put some new strings on her and for some reason I thought to look up a couple guys who I enjoy tonally, Steve Harris and Geddy Lee. Turns out both use Rotosounds, one uses flat-wound, the other round-wound. Since I've never played flat-wound, I loaded those on first.

As soon as I took them out of the package, I was pretty excited that I had found something revelatory...but I've played tape-wound (the black nylon wraps) on bass and they were kinda meh.

Flats are SO GOOD. I don't really care too much about the brassy tone, I play hard and it tends to be something I have to manage to keep from pissing off the guy on the mixer. The flats reward this with a nice full sound but none of the harsh high freqs and artifacts of round-wounds. And I was able to play a fairly normal session (an hour) without burning the heck out of my fingers. I slide a lot, and flats are a joy to slide. Both hands quite happy with the change!

Main downside is the set of RS77S flats I got are 40 50 75 90, which are really thin. I like CABLES on there (I play 11s on guitar, 13s when I'm in full form, I like the stiffness but also like to grab 2-step bends). The Harris signature set is a 50 75 95 110, which sounds about right...but they're long scale (my SG bass is short scale). The search goes on...

It's funny, because I think back to when I was in music school and was just tearing it up, technically. That was on a very long scale bass (I have stubby fingerlings) with roundwounds. If I had a short scale with flats, I would've been SO MUCH BETTER. Crazy.

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Reply #2068 on: March 13, 2021, 11:05:24 AM

I bought myself a bass guitar and a keyboard recently, to try to get back to doing some songwriting as well as learning bass and piano-ish. The bass guitar was an Ibanez beginner type (no idea if it's short scale or not) and it came in last night, so I loaded up Rocksmith and went to town. Turns out all those years of playing guitar, mostly as a rhythm type guitarist, means I was able to pick up the bass pretty easily. I'm not rocking Geddy Lee level stuff there, but punk/alt and metal bass playing seems to be much easier than I expected it to be.

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Reply #2069 on: March 17, 2021, 01:27:49 AM

I bought myself a bass guitar and a keyboard recently, to try to get back to doing some songwriting as well as learning bass and piano-ish. The bass guitar was an Ibanez beginner type (no idea if it's short scale or not) and it came in last night, so I loaded up Rocksmith and went to town. Turns out all those years of playing guitar, mostly as a rhythm type guitarist, means I was able to pick up the bass pretty easily. I'm not rocking Geddy Lee level stuff there, but punk/alt and metal bass playing seems to be much easier than I expected it to be.

good deal man.   I am contemplating buying a bass as well

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Reply #2070 on: March 22, 2021, 11:10:02 PM

Haemmy, Little Wing is an amazing song to learn to move through a chord progression up and down the neck, it flows beautifully and loops nicely. I got a massive boost in fretboard understanding by letting the progression change position based on linking that I learned with CAGED method. Starting to link with bass notes and melodies and stuff (copping a lot from what SRV would do to it, ofc).

Then I started to apply that to solos, using the chord tones and leading melody stuff I was doing with the rhythm.

Bonus is that it's the fiancee's favorite, so my noodling practice gets rave reviews...but once you learn the progression, take it offline and use it to stretch out to the far ends of your fretboard understanding and you'll probably get some more freedom to move around comfortably.

If you're into that. Sorry for the uninvited advice, I just really got a ton out of applying CAGED to it and can't help but pass it on. I still benefit from noodling it and wish I had known that stuff back in the day! Just saw that DLC pop up on steam and felt compelled  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #2071 on: March 24, 2021, 10:05:34 PM

I actually bought Little Wing Rocksmith DLC the other day when it was on sale, just because I figured it'd be a fun one to play.  why so serious?

I'm finding that simpler bass lines (picked) are pretty easy for me to pick up. Fingering it is a whole other thing that I'm going to struggle with, simply because my days of playing "Spanish style" classical guitar arpeggios for metal are almost 30 years in my rearview mirror. Not used to using all the fingers of both hands independently.

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Reply #2072 on: March 25, 2021, 08:34:53 AM

I'm probably not much help, I'm still working on my right hand technique after 37 years or so.

I might be over the initial glow of the flatwounds though  why so serious? I think I actually enjoy the way the roundwounds bite into my fingers, it's weird. Not sure if it's just getting used to the different feel after the aforementioned decades. I haven't managed a more in-depth session to mess with them, I want to get in the zone at some point before I make a serious judgement on them.

I'm also kind of bummed I can't dial in a good tone in the game. Partly my home theater setup is not great for music, esp bass (just a 10" sub that's boomy af). Spent some time yesterday trying to track down my old gigging bass head, because I used to get great tone with just 4 knobs (3 eq/1 vol). But I'm pretty sure a lot of my tone also came from running that amp hot through 2x 400W 15" EVMB full range.

Guitar it's relatively easy to emulate some good tones. For bass, it seems almost impossible! I wasn't happy with my sound before, but trying to compensate for the flatwounds has been pretty frustrating.

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Reply #2073 on: April 06, 2021, 08:47:20 AM

Managed to find the head that helped give me my sound back in the gigging days. Many heads were scratched when other bassist were trying to figure out my tone and I showed them this. I just went direct into this head and out into a 2x15 loaded with EVMB full range speakers. It's true what so many guitarists say in interviews about it being in the fingers!

https://reverb.com/item/29981533-listing-update-kustom-kasino-concert-guitar-bass-amplifier-head-black-and-blue

Now I just wish I could find one in good shape. I'm not a gear head, but I'm still salty that got stolen (along with the speakers. by my guitarist.). I've forgiven and moved on, but I've yet to find an amp I'm happy with!

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