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Reply #35 on: April 09, 2019, 10:03:58 AM

Look, Bale was good, but you are saying that Keaton was not a good Batman? Forget the fact that the movie doesn't quite hold up as well after the Nolan stuff, but Keaton was a good Batman. Affleck was a good Batman, he just happened to be in almost completely shitty movies - but he and his portrayal of the character was not the problem with those movies at all.

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Reply #36 on: April 09, 2019, 10:35:35 AM

Even Bale has been mediocre. It's only compared to other Batmen that he's even remotely good.
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Reply #37 on: April 09, 2019, 10:55:16 AM

If I had to rank live action Batmen it'd be:

Adam West

Bale was generally just boring as Batman and Bruce Wayne and his scratchy voice turned the character into a caricature.

This movie looks good but DC marketing has fooled me before. *cough*SuicideSquad*cough*

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Reply #38 on: April 09, 2019, 02:12:45 PM

It's weird that watching two hours of "how society made me become a psychopathic mass murderer, please empathize" might not be all that great even if Joacquin Phoenix plays it?

I am really not into comic-adaptions, so I watched this trailer like, well, like a trailer for a film and it looked good.

Not quite sure what your issues here are.

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Reply #39 on: April 09, 2019, 02:19:51 PM

As far as I can tell, the Internet is terribly concerned that right-wing incels will enjoy this movie too much, so much so that it may be a moral imperative for right-thinking people to NOT enjoy it. 

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Reply #40 on: April 09, 2019, 02:59:50 PM

Take the Joker out of it (or hell, don't) and the movie could easily be called "Diary of an Incel."

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Reply #41 on: April 09, 2019, 04:40:43 PM

I can't even tell anymore if I'm being trolled or if our culture wars have reached a new depth of stupidity.

IF this movie aims to using realistic psychological/socio-economic etc. create a fictitious life that might lead someone to become a killer clown guy and nothing else... THEN this is a dumb fucking idea for a movie. That plan is dumb enough that it invalidates any reason to watch said movie regardless of quality. If I need a dose of terrible things can turn human beings into terrible people. I don't need to seek out my local cinema for help with that.

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Reply #42 on: April 09, 2019, 07:20:08 PM

I mean, I'm not especially optimistic either...

But tragedy has been a staple of the performative arts for most of recorded human history.

So I don't think 'story about society breaking a guy' is exactly plumbing new depths.

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Reply #43 on: April 09, 2019, 08:28:19 PM

Yeah, I mean, Taxi Driver is considered a classic, and there have been a lot of movies like it since.  And now this.

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Reply #44 on: April 09, 2019, 08:33:28 PM

If incels want to think of themselves as the fucking Joker, like, whatever. Ok.

That's a retard slapfight if ever there was one. I'm just going to enjoy the movie because there's a very high chance it'll be good.
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Reply #45 on: April 10, 2019, 12:51:36 PM

Hopefully it is a good as "You Were Never Really Here" which is recommending viewing.
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