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Reply #35 on: July 03, 2019, 03:24:01 PM

Thor 2 bad is pretty harsh.

I guess I do have at least one issue with this movie though which is that it requires Peter to make a fuckstupid decision, and that the villain's plot to get Peter make said stupid decision is pretty nonsensical when you think about it for even a second.
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Reply #36 on: July 03, 2019, 03:28:55 PM

I'm not seeing spiderman til 10pm tonight, but tell you what

there's absolutely no world where its as bad as thor 2

i have to assume ironwood had a stroke and saw a limited engagement screening of that new netflix sandler/aniston vehicle
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Reply #37 on: July 03, 2019, 03:31:48 PM

The movie was entertaining, funny and charming. Much more fun to watch than Endgame.
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Reply #38 on: July 03, 2019, 03:36:44 PM

The movie was like a fucking awful European vacation with actors who were all, to a man, phoning it in except the bad guy.

Oh and hey, Stark's dead so let's make another fucking film that's all about him again.  Jesus.

Also, what the fuck was up with Colbie Smulders ?  She looks really, really ill.

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Reply #39 on: July 03, 2019, 04:59:54 PM

It was fun and light without being insubstantial. Yes, Peter made dumb decisions. He does that. It's as much his character as it is Batman's character to plan ahead and train obsessively.

I kind of agree on the cast--

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Reply #40 on: July 03, 2019, 06:02:23 PM

Yes, Peter made dumb decisions. He does that. It's as much his character as it is Batman's character to plan ahead and train obsessively.

I... completely disagree with that.
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Reply #41 on: July 03, 2019, 09:21:36 PM

Peter Parker has a nearly infinitely long history of making spectacularly dumb decisions and then rolling them back when he remembers that great power = great responsibility. Seriously. It is very nearly the character's defining characteristic.
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Reply #42 on: July 04, 2019, 12:48:47 AM

This movie was fuckin great.
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Reply #43 on: July 04, 2019, 02:03:28 AM

Alright, let's deal with Ironwoods absolute nonsense -

1. bro you're old and didn't go on an american eurotrip in high school with ridiculous teachers - this movie was absolutely perfect in that regard

2. also, you're old

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As for Jake being the best thing in the movie. Nah. It was Iron Man Jr. Jake was fairly terrible once he turned off the lies, he was decent as a friend of spidey but as a villain he was a bit of a putz. But that's kind of the problem with every villain Spiderman has, they all kind of suck. I don't know why. A villain shows up in Spideys orbit and he becomes poop.

MJ was great.

Happy and May were great.

Hell, even the Asian friend was great.

As I said, it was fuckin great.

I'm glad we got Iron Man 4.
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Reply #44 on: July 04, 2019, 08:18:58 AM

They did a reasonably good job updating Mysterio--there was a sort of metacommentary there
Spider-Man's villains being putzes is kind of the point too--his villains are a lot like The Flash's, they're people whose powers are potentially very strong but who are so petty and small-minded that they can only think of cashing in via crime. Though the movies as a whole found a way to make Doctor Octopus way more interesting. Norman Osborn can be, but not in that outfit the first film used.

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Reply #45 on: July 04, 2019, 10:52:52 PM

...Also, what the fuck was up with Colbie Smulders ?  She looks really, really ill.

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Reply #46 on: July 05, 2019, 01:56:55 AM


As for Jake being the best thing in the movie. Nah. It was Iron Man Jr. Jake was fairly terrible once he turned off the lies, he was decent as a friend of spidey but as a villain he was a bit of a putz. But that's kind of the problem with every villain Spiderman has, they all kind of suck. I don't know why. A villain shows up in Spideys orbit and he becomes poop.



It's been a long, long time since I read any comics with Mysterio but to my memory he was always kind of a putz so this was pretty fitting really.

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Reply #47 on: July 05, 2019, 08:44:55 AM

We need to quit using "accurate to the comics" to excuse the shitty parts, there is a good reason why only 17 assholes read comics any more.

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Reply #48 on: July 05, 2019, 05:51:35 PM

Except. I'm gonna say that the entire region the MCU is great is that Kevin Feige is a Marvel comics nerd. Meaning, he fetches up bits and pieces of comics without being too handcuffed to getting it exactly right to the comic. In Endgame when Hulk is supporting the weight of the flooding basement, that's a ref to Hulk holding up a mountain in Secret Wars--a dumb comic that no one should ever adapt, but a visually cool notation to cite just ever so little in that way.
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Reply #49 on: July 05, 2019, 05:55:50 PM

Oh sure, milk the shit out of the good stuff. Just don't try to lampshade the dumb with "because comics".

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Reply #50 on: July 05, 2019, 05:57:32 PM

For sure.
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Reply #51 on: July 05, 2019, 07:25:10 PM

Except. I'm gonna say that the entire region the MCU is great is that Kevin Feige is a Marvel comics nerd.


no it's because every single good one realized their shit only exists because of Iron Man / RDJ / Favreau so they just keep doing that

over and over again

and its great

I think we're on Iron Man 23 now

but yes, Feige keeps the trains running on time
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Reply #52 on: July 05, 2019, 07:55:21 PM

Entire REASON. sigh.

But really, honestly, MCU and the Snyder Murderverse diverge first and foremost because Feige wasn't humiliated by the source material, and Snyder and the entire deck of WB execs involved were ashamed to be making movies from comic books. Feige wasn't, so he could do deep dives into the material AND recruit creatives who felt the same way that he did. The WB people were listening to Snyder and Goyer and thinking the only way to make this shit prove out was to hate it, because the Serious Critics loved Nolan's take on Batman, which was as minimally comic-booky as it could manage.
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Reply #53 on: July 05, 2019, 08:02:01 PM

the problem with DC is the source material IS shameful

batman gets a pass because of heath ledger

without heath ledger it's an OK trilogy but something no one is rewatching
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Reply #54 on: July 05, 2019, 08:08:46 PM

Saw this today and really dug it. I think they've finally got a good balance of Peter Parker story and Spider-Man story (i.e. the previous 2 movies had great Parker/MJ character stuff but the villains were atrocious - these have both). I actually liked their take on MJ and how all that fit together. Their use of Mysterio was PERFECT, or I should say, a perfect adaptation to the MCU. This is how you do a character that is super dumb in the comics and still make it work on screen.

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Reply #55 on: July 05, 2019, 11:15:52 PM

The first one is probably my least favorite MCU movie.  I like Holland as Spider-man, and much of the side cast was great, but plotting and dialog had me pausing it and walking away constantly.  So I have low expectations for this one.

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Reply #56 on: July 05, 2019, 11:19:03 PM

The first one is probably my least favorite MCU movie.

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Reply #57 on: July 05, 2019, 11:25:47 PM

Yes, I know, you and everybody else.  Just did not enjoy it.

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Reply #58 on: July 05, 2019, 11:28:02 PM

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Reply #59 on: July 06, 2019, 12:33:35 AM

The first one has probably one of my favorite scenes in any MCU movie. That being the entire car ride where Peter knows his girlfriend's dad is the Vulture and the dad is slowly putting the pieces together. It's the most suspenseful scene in the entire MCU.

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Reply #60 on: July 06, 2019, 01:04:55 AM

I thought this one was fun. They've hit a really good tone on these Holland SM movies I think based a lot on his youthful charisma and the rest of the cast.  I like that they tend to be relatively "low stakes" in the grand scheme of things which is good.

Also, how good is it that they got
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Reply #61 on: July 06, 2019, 10:44:46 AM

Also, how good is it that they got

I actually laughed my head off loudly when I saw that. I'm totally down with that direction.

I'd definitely like to see them move the character's timeline forward a bit in the next one. I want to see a more adult Peter with this actor, because I really like what they've done with him.

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Reply #62 on: July 06, 2019, 04:13:34 PM

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Reply #63 on: July 07, 2019, 08:10:03 AM

...I'd definitely like to see them move the character's timeline forward a bit in the next one. I want to see a more adult Peter with this actor, because I really like what they've done with him.
While I'd like to see that, too, I am ok waiting for it.  You can't go back once you go forward and there is a lot of iconic source material focused on a teen and college aged Parker.  One more HS adventure, 2 college adventures... and then get on to him being an adult.

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Reply #64 on: July 15, 2019, 05:24:47 PM

So I really enjoyed the movie but (and maybe I missed this) what was Mysterio trying to accomplish after the bar scene?
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Reply #65 on: July 15, 2019, 05:39:08 PM

Do you mean what happened in Berlin?
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Reply #66 on: July 15, 2019, 07:14:30 PM

So I really enjoyed the movie but (and maybe I missed this) what was Mysterio trying to accomplish after the bar scene?


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Reply #67 on: July 16, 2019, 01:44:13 AM

So I really enjoyed the movie but (and maybe I missed this) what was Mysterio trying to accomplish after the bar scene?


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Reply #68 on: July 16, 2019, 02:07:27 AM

So I really enjoyed the movie but (and maybe I missed this) what was Mysterio trying to accomplish after the bar scene?
Oh, now I understand your question.
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Reply #69 on: July 16, 2019, 09:48:28 AM


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