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Reply #35 on: December 04, 2018, 10:09:48 PM



I would like to register a complaint about the artistic liberties this movie has taken with the original costume.

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Reply #36 on: December 05, 2018, 12:24:12 AM

AT LAST! A BOLD NEW SUPER-HEROINE IN THE SENSES-STUNNING TRADTION OF SPIDER-MAN!

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Reply #37 on: December 05, 2018, 01:30:21 AM

Saw this during the game last night. I thought it looked pretty badly put together. But that's 99% I don't like Brie Larson.

Now, Jessie Graff? She would've been a badass Cap.


Or maybe Zoe Bell. You know, the badass stuntwomen that make cream puffs like Larson look badass in movies.
Sorry man, all that girl looks like she can do is kick a punching bag really hard and stuff.  She just doesn't look like a woman who can shoot laser beams from her hands, pick up an entire bus by herself, and fly through the cold vacuum of space unharmed.  Terrible casting choice.

Some of you people always bring up how they need to cast some roided out MMA chick to make a magic comic book super hero believable, and it never stops being silly.  The only thing I've seen her in was Kong: Skull Island, which I did not like, but it wasn't because of anything she did.  She will be a better actress than any of those people you named, so that already makes her a far better choice.  Also also, she actually looks pretty solidly built in that trailer.  The girl you are posting above seems more scrawny in comparison.

ANYWAYS, as to the trailer, I'm still kind of meh on it.  Nothing looks bad, but nothing about it really entertained me the way most Marvel Trailers do.  Seems a little by the books, and I can't help but get a Green Lantern feel from it......

Power wise, I really hope they try to constrain things and keep her in balance.  In the past she's literally been Superman (or stronger) in power level, which makes for a terrible hero.  Just from that trailer, in practicality, she's pretty much the same power set as Ironman (who, to be fair, they keep raising his every damn movie).  Hopefully that's it.


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Reply #38 on: December 05, 2018, 01:37:39 AM

Not going to get into the debate as such, but the "girl you are posting above" is a legitimate, world class badass.  Can she act?  No idea.  But it is a little insane that people say they should cast someone like Jessie Graff, because there probably only has ever been one or two women like this in the entire history of the world. 

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Reply #39 on: December 05, 2018, 02:04:10 AM

Just from that trailer, in practicality, she's pretty much the same power set as Ironman (who, to be fair, they keep raising his every damn movie).  Hopefully that's it.
Not according to Kevin Feige who said "She is more powerful than any character we’ve introduced thus far". But really it seems unlikely she's more powerful than MCU Thor.
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Reply #40 on: December 05, 2018, 05:44:56 AM

My only real issue is how they're going to deal with the timeline and how badly it seems to fuck with it.


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Reply #41 on: December 05, 2018, 07:43:37 AM

Trailer looks the same as every marvel movie that isn't GotG. And that is fine.

Complaints about the casting are dumb.

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Reply #42 on: December 05, 2018, 07:49:31 AM

My only real issue is how they're going to deal with the timeline and how badly it seems to fuck with it.

I refer you to the wise words of Basil Exposition.

https://youtu.be/1SPk3NjYfmQ

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Reply #43 on: December 05, 2018, 08:06:05 AM

Yeah, I thought it was fine? But it didn't particularly get my jaw dropping or put into a fever of anticipation. I think the major thing that's sort of interesting is that each film they do it taking them closer to full-on comic-book. Think about the first Iron Man--they were really pretty careful about effects-heavy scenes and worked pretty hard to keep some form of 'realism' in the frame. Even the first Thor was sort of careful in that way (partly because a lot of it is depowered fish-out-of-water Thor on Earth). But now they're much more confident (and maybe less cheap) about the visual tropes of comic books, and you can kind of see it in that trailer.
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Reply #44 on: December 05, 2018, 08:39:29 AM

Whoever gets cast in a "new" MCU franchise is going to expect to be there for at least ten years, so it's better to get younger actors for their new characters. That is, at least until de-aging tech gets a *lot* cheaper.

I thought the CGI was pretty, but it also looks unfinished. At least, I hope it's unfinished. There were some uncanny valley moments in the scenes where she's blasting through space.

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Reply #45 on: December 05, 2018, 08:46:07 AM

My only real issue is how they're going to deal with the timeline and how badly it seems to fuck with it.

I refer you to the wise words of Basil Exposition.

https://youtu.be/1SPk3NjYfmQ

Yeah, I'm really not that bothered.

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Reply #46 on: December 05, 2018, 09:18:48 AM

Not going to get into the debate as such, but the "girl you are posting above" is a legitimate, world class badass.  Can she act?  No idea.  But it is a little insane that people say they should cast someone like Jessie Graff, because there probably only has ever been one or two women like this in the entire history of the world. 
... and?  Can she act is issue #1 for an actress.  We've seen 4'8" ancient women carry enough gravitas to crush your balls witha stare... and most of her physical fighting will be pure CGI. 

I'm not sold that Kree Larsen is the ideal CM, but she is a pretty good actress.  We don't get the best of the movie in the trailers - especially the earl ones - so I'm eager to see where it goes on the screen.

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Reply #47 on: December 05, 2018, 09:33:24 AM

I've been butthurt about 4 actor choices in superhero movies: Michael Keaton, Heath Ledger, Gal Gadot and Ben Affleck. I was wrong all 4 times. (Affleck's acting was fine, the scripts and movies were just shit.)

I'm not going to worry about Brie Larson until I see the movie. Also, I just realized all 4 of those were DC and 3 of them had to do with Batman. Huh.

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Reply #48 on: December 05, 2018, 09:48:53 AM

I thought the guy they cast as Ozymandias in Watchmen was horrible and I was right.

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Reply #49 on: December 05, 2018, 10:05:12 AM

I've been butthurt about 4 actor choices in superhero movies: Michael Keaton, Heath Ledger, Gal Gadot and Ben Affleck. I was wrong all 4 times. (Affleck's acting was fine, the scripts and movies were just shit.)

I'm not going to worry about Brie Larson until I see the movie. Also, I just realized all 4 of those were DC and 3 of them had to do with Batman. Huh.
Except where you were right about Keaton and Affleck. Brand Echh.

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Reply #50 on: December 05, 2018, 10:20:09 AM

There's only really been one genius choice casting-wise for Bruce Wayne/Batman and that's Kevin Conroy. Everybody else has their flaws in the role.

I don't have strong feelings about Captain Marvel as a character in part because her origins and personality and even powers in the comics have been so variable. There's a huge range in which to get it "right", more or less--and some degree of forgiveness about getting it "wrong", since you'd have to do something REALLY weird to be "wrong" about the character. The only essentials I can see are:

she's powerful
she flies
she's got some kind of connection to space/the Kree
she's a fighter jock/ex-military
she's got some kind of feminist 'hook'
she's got amnesia that she's overcome or overcoming
she's blonde

Looks like they've got all that going.
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Reply #51 on: December 05, 2018, 12:34:06 PM

Just from that trailer, in practicality, she's pretty much the same power set as Ironman (who, to be fair, they keep raising his every damn movie).  Hopefully that's it.
Not according to Kevin Feige who said "She is more powerful than any character we’ve introduced thus far". But really it seems unlikely she's more powerful than MCU Thor.

Yeah, I guess we'll see.  I've been afraid they'll think they're clever by making the strongest hero in the MCU be a woman, and go overboard by introducing literal Superman to the MCU, which would be horrible.  We'll have to see what they do with her in the movies.

Just saying that on the surface, you can watch that entire trailer and imagine Ironman in her place when she is doing any action stuff, and it works.

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Reply #52 on: December 05, 2018, 02:06:09 PM

I really want the MCU to replace Tony Stark with Riri Williams (teenage black girl genius invents Tony Stark level Iron Man armor) just to see the shithead explosion.

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Reply #53 on: December 05, 2018, 02:12:40 PM

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Reply #54 on: December 05, 2018, 08:50:49 PM

caring about who is cast as superheroes is edgelord shit

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Reply #55 on: December 05, 2018, 09:17:08 PM

My only issue, thus far, with Brie Larson's casting is the voice. Just seems too high an octave to me, for some reason. I've heard some say she's intentionally done it for the role, but as someone who's not seen her in, well, anything else, I haven't the slightest clue -- and since it's just a minor quibble I'm not bothered enough to look into it. Though the claims she's done it to make the character come across as more feminine is.. amusing, regardless of whether it's true or not.

Well, actually, I do have another issue with her from what I've seen in the trailer; she doesn't seem that comfortable with green screen acting, like she isn't entirely sure how to emote or such. Saw a couple people mention it on trailer breakdowns and I agree. Still, I don't think it is that huge of an issue. All I want from Marvel movies is popcorn entertainment. If this delivers; great. If not.. it probably won't be (just?) because of the casting.
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Reply #56 on: December 06, 2018, 12:22:50 AM

Not going to get into the debate as such, but the "girl you are posting above" is a legitimate, world class badass.  Can she act?  No idea.  But it is a little insane that people say they should cast someone like Jessie Graff, because there probably only has ever been one or two women like this in the entire history of the world. 
... and?  Can she act is issue #1 for an actress.  We've seen 4'8" ancient women carry enough gravitas to crush your balls witha stare... and most of her physical fighting will be pure CGI. 

I'm not sold that Kree Larsen is the ideal CM, but she is a pretty good actress.  We don't get the best of the movie in the trailers - especially the earl ones - so I'm eager to see where it goes on the screen.

Uh, I am not sure we disagree here.  My point is simply that saying something like "find someone like Jessie Graff, who is both good looking and a real life physical genius" is fairly absurd, because she is basically one of a kind.  And she probably cannot act well enough.  And if she could act well enough, she would literally would be one of a kind.

No, I learned my lesson with Wonder Woman.  It may have been the only time I made a heart felt mis-casting rant, and I ate plenty of crow afterwards.  She was basically perfect for the role.

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Reply #57 on: December 06, 2018, 03:50:11 AM

Also, basically perfect full stop.

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Reply #58 on: December 06, 2018, 04:50:31 AM

Also, basically perfect full stop.

I wouldn't be wrong to say that I was completely in love with Gal Gadot for at least the duration of that movie.

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Reply #59 on: December 06, 2018, 12:03:05 PM

Meh i still think the casting for wonder woman sucks. Too skinny, she does a good job of being a somewhat stilted Diana which is fine because everything else about DC is god damn awful. Captain Marvel should go for a thicker or more curvier girl but you start getting into non-white actor female territories (and i can't even imagine that shit storm even if marvel has the balls to do it) and it's not like she won't be CGI character when allowed to cut loose. So skinny girls get thrown a bone, scarlet joe and the entire female cast of black panther is comic accurate enough to make up for it. Though if they really want to show how much they fucked up let her stand next to Okoye.
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Reply #60 on: December 06, 2018, 12:08:23 PM

I figured Ronda Rousey would have cured anyone of the whole "cast thicker girls" kick.

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