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Reply #245 on: October 08, 2018, 08:48:15 AM

I thought it was good and I would have watched the part 2 they were clearly setting up in theaters. It wasn't great but it was a fun time.

They really do need to grow some balls and just advance the timeline of the universe though if they actually want to make interesting movies.

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Reply #246 on: October 08, 2018, 09:05:04 AM

Agreed, getting rid of Luke and Han has been the smartest decision of the new movies.

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Reply #247 on: October 08, 2018, 09:31:06 AM

Luke should have been the only one they brought back for one of the movies.  Everybody else should have died off screen or something.  Ford and especially Fischer were painful to watch, and there was just no need to shoehorn them in anymore.  Maybe if these movies had happened only a decade or so after the originals, but everybody was just way to old at this point.

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Reply #248 on: October 08, 2018, 09:58:37 AM

Han was painful because they wrote him in as a washed out has been old man who left the fight and his wife to take up smuggling and chasing credits. Luke's character was actually really interesting though.

But yes, whatever movies/trilogy/series they come up with next needs to be set up 1000 years in the future/past so we can wipe the slate clean and start over with new lore and stories.
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Reply #249 on: October 08, 2018, 11:54:27 AM

Hasbro trying to sell geriatric Han Solo and Leia action figures was just the cherry on top.

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Reply #250 on: October 08, 2018, 12:59:36 PM

I disagree that they need to advance the time line.

Part of why R1 and Solo work is that a well understood backdrop makes it easier to focus in on the story they want to tell. They don't have to overdo exposition and it helps ward off the temptation to make the universe revolve around the characters. It is like making a WW2 film, the one thing you don't have to explain is the war.

As a result nobody complained they don't know the origin story of Krennic, Tarkin, Voss, or the Crimson dudes - wheras holy crap Snoke and the First Order.

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Reply #251 on: October 08, 2018, 01:50:33 PM

You advance the timeline and plot out 10 years of movies just like marvel. You have your main storyline movies like avengers, then others to flash things out. Start off with one offs to slowly build the world/Galaxy. This way you don't have to do it on a grandiose fashion like with a trilogy.
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Reply #252 on: October 08, 2018, 01:53:59 PM

I think bringing in Solo was all in all good move. A little bit of nostalgia can go a long way in a new movie.

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Reply #253 on: January 22, 2019, 11:03:08 AM

I finally watched this. Holy shit. I see why it bombed.

It's not a bad movie. Let me just start with that. It's not BAD. It's just not good. The first criticism I had of the trailer was that the whole movie felt unnecessary and nothing I saw in the movie changed that. They overexplained some things that were completely unnecessary (why he's name Solo) and yet completely ignored explaining or showing things that might have been interesting, like Solo's time in the Imperial Academy. Half of the movie looked like utter, dark, drab shit, as if the director of photography used the worst expired film stock he could find. Lighting was awful. The character never had much of a complete story arc. I'm guessing by the ending that this was meant to show that Han always had a "heart of gold" mentality but the events of this movie made him cynical and jaded, and we would see more of the evolution of the character into the scoundrel we see at the beginning of A New Hope. Since we're only getting the one movie, however, his arc doesn't pay off at all. Lando was fine but the entire L3 droid made no sense. I think that Lando's crush on the droid and her whole "droid rights" schtick was meant to be a joke when the original directors were trying to make a comedy, and that Ron Howard was brought in to unfuck that part of the story and just didn't even bother, he just probably cut out some jokes. Either way, it was an utter mess, as "droid rights" makes no sense in the Star Wars universe unless you literally write an entire movie/trilogy around it. The escape from Cthulhu part in the middle felt padded and the entire heist on the mines really didn't make much sense either.

I know why this movie existed and it was because Disney thought they could drop any old turd with the Star Wars name on it and it would make tons of money. Luckily, people didn't buy it.

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Reply #254 on: January 22, 2019, 02:29:53 PM

Yes.

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Reply #255 on: January 22, 2019, 02:58:11 PM

Thanks for saving me the trouble. Saw this popped up on Netflix and put it on my never-ending list... now I can remove and not care.

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Reply #256 on: January 22, 2019, 04:51:40 PM

It is definitely worth watching, I don't get the hate.

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Reply #257 on: January 22, 2019, 05:08:12 PM

I'm weighing whether to watch this because it's available. This is useful.

My feeling has always been: the people making the movie need to tell me why I should. Han Solo is not a guy whose background I needed explained; any explanation is inevitably going to make him less, not more, interesting to me. Unless someone really imaginative takes a crack at it, I suppose. But a movie that's about the general underworld of Star Wars? That could be interesting; a heist movie set in Star Wars could be interesting. Sell it to me without the backstory hook and I bet I will see it. If it's good, sure, but still. Rogue One made them think everything still needed to have a hook into the Skywalker story, I guess.
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Reply #258 on: January 22, 2019, 05:19:00 PM

It's not art. But it's fun.

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Reply #259 on: January 22, 2019, 06:16:27 PM

It is definitely worth watching, I don't get the hate.

It kinda isn't.  It's forgettable blarg.


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Reply #260 on: January 22, 2019, 06:17:06 PM

I'm weighing whether to watch this because it's available. This is useful.

My feeling has always been: the people making the movie need to tell me why I should. Han Solo is not a guy whose background I needed explained; any explanation is inevitably going to make him less, not more, interesting to me. Unless someone really imaginative takes a crack at it, I suppose. But a movie that's about the general underworld of Star Wars? That could be interesting; a heist movie set in Star Wars could be interesting. Sell it to me without the backstory hook and I bet I will see it. If it's good, sure, but still. Rogue One made them think everything still needed to have a hook into the Skywalker story, I guess.


Solo will just make you wish it had been 'Lando'.

It's not worth your time.

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Reply #261 on: January 22, 2019, 10:35:34 PM

It's the only new Star Wars movie worth seeing besides Rogue One.  It's not epic, but it's got adventure and humor and a bit of fun.  If you can make it past the Corelia scenes, it's enjoyable.
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Reply #262 on: January 22, 2019, 11:57:21 PM

As far as something to put on Netflix in the background while you do something else, I guess you could do worse.

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Reply #263 on: January 23, 2019, 12:05:01 AM

Yeah, I actually think this is a far better Netflix film than going through all the hassle to see in a theater.  I'd recommend giving it a view.

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Reply #264 on: January 23, 2019, 12:54:27 AM

For free via Netflix?  For sure.  Pew pew, space battles, Lando, etc.  Not very memorable, but an okay way to waste a couple hours.

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Reply #265 on: January 23, 2019, 04:01:03 AM

It is definitely worth watching, I don't get the hate.

What he said. I want solo 2 more than episode 9. And I liked the last Jedi.

Anyway, if you have near enough ten thousand posts on eff thirteen dot net, you should probably give it 2 hours of your life just so you can join in.

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Reply #266 on: January 23, 2019, 04:08:16 AM

I am actually a little disappointed they won't follow it up.  The end reveal made me want to know more about a certain someone's something something.


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Reply #267 on: January 23, 2019, 07:11:48 AM

This isn't a Han Solo backstory, this is a Han Solo's stuff backstory.

I think I heard that somewhere around the time it came out, and it's definitely true. It's like they decided to spend a movie telling us how he came to have all the stuff we see him with in A New Hope.

Combine that with a few too many ways this intersects with other Star Wars lore and it just felt like a series of things meant to make audiences go "I know that!" instead of an actual movie.
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Reply #268 on: January 23, 2019, 08:10:44 AM

Combine that with a few too many ways this intersects with other Star Wars lore and it just felt like a series of things meant to make audiences go "I know that!" instead of an actual movie.

That's been a failing of the franchise since the prequel trilogy. Everything has to tie into stuff that's already in universe. I get that they want to have fan service, but when you find out that random Wookie #9879 is Chewie's grandparent in whichever of the prequel films had Wookies in, or all of the speculation about Rey being a secret Kenobi or something, it just makes the universe seem small. Obviously this film is going to have a lot of fan service in it because it's all about a character who's been central to the franchise since the beginning, but there's still room to make new things instead of reshuffling everything we already saw.

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Reply #269 on: January 23, 2019, 08:53:56 AM

Combine that with a few too many ways this intersects with other Star Wars lore and it just felt like a series of things meant to make audiences go "I know that!" instead of an actual movie.

Yes.  The ideal way to watch this movie would be as a drinking game, so instead of rolling your eyes when that happens, you could take a shot.

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Reply #270 on: January 23, 2019, 08:54:30 AM

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Reply #271 on: January 23, 2019, 09:08:17 AM

It is definitely worth watching, I don't get the hate.

It's not really hate, so much as it is just puzzled disappointment. It's an inoffensive movie that just kind of lays there. It's not enjoying itself, and it doesn't make me enjoy myself. It feels like there could have been an interesting story about the past of an interesting character and instead we got weird overexplaining of silly minutiae and woefully little character development, with a plot that's barely coherent and utterly forgettable.

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Reply #272 on: January 24, 2019, 05:32:05 PM

The movie is fun. It's worth watching when you get time.
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Reply #273 on: January 24, 2019, 09:04:17 PM

I started watching it. I didn't hate it, but I found the need to explain stuff like his dice and his name really annoying--they knocked me out of the film. Like, don't explain a name like Solo as literal in a universe where people have names like Maul, Greedo, etc.
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Reply #274 on: January 25, 2019, 01:01:10 AM

I mean, when your parents name you Maul, how can you grow up to be anything but a Dark Lord of the Sith?

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Reply #275 on: January 25, 2019, 05:27:12 PM

I started watching it. I didn't hate it, but I found the need to explain stuff like his dice and his name really annoying--they knocked me out of the film. Like, don't explain a name like Solo as literal in a universe where people have names like Maul, Greedo, etc.

The dice explanation I figured they would do. They're clearly important to him and part of his past. The name thing just made me roll my eyes. "So you used the name a military recruiter gave you for the rest of your life? Even when you took part in the fight against his government?"

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Reply #276 on: January 25, 2019, 06:11:12 PM

I liked that part. Showed how he had nothing so he held on to everything, no matter how small.

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Reply #277 on: March 29, 2019, 10:53:03 PM

Watched this, decent fun movie. Not great, not especially Star Wars. But fun enough.

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Reply #278 on: March 30, 2019, 07:04:14 AM

I finally finished it on an airplane. It was ok. Didn't hate it, didn't especially enjoy it. It did not in the end feel all that clever to me in the heisting parts, and I just felt kind of meh about the need to explain the Kessel Run, etc. stuff.
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