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jgsugden
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Reply #35 on: September 22, 2017, 07:44:19 AM

As I understook it, this was a test intended to be a single season thing, unless widely popular.

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Reply #36 on: September 22, 2017, 06:37:44 PM

As I understook it, this was a test intended to be a single season thing, unless widely popular.

Well it looks like the "complete series" phrase was misunderstood anyway. It was only meant to mean that the IMAX release was the start of the "complete series" to be continued on ABC.
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Reply #37 on: September 30, 2017, 08:38:50 AM

It seems like that one season thing was mistaken anyways. They say they have plans for three seasons should the show last that long. As Disney forced Marvel to continue Agents of Shield for another season, they may force them to do Inhumans for two more seasons and see if they can fix the problems that are here. I will say that the first two episodes were not as bad as I expected based upon the reviews, but they were pretty darn bad.

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Reply #38 on: October 01, 2017, 01:08:40 AM

This show was DIRE. Fucking godawful, SyFy Flash Gordon fuckstupid. Poor decisions at every single turn from story choices to actor choices to direction and cinematography. This was Roger Corman bad.

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Reply #39 on: October 01, 2017, 01:44:51 AM

Casting sucks with one excption. Effects are mostly insufficient, though Lockjaw was ok. Attilan sets are idiotic. I'll watch the rest to be a completionist,  but outside a faint hope that the rest of the series might be slightly better if not rushed like the Imax ones were... all I can say is that I am shocked Marvel let something this bad go to air.

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Reply #40 on: October 09, 2017, 11:06:27 PM

It really is a steaming pile.

There are like a thousand flaws with this show, but the one that keeps getting to me is how all the royal family keeps acting surprised when no one or nothing on earth acknowledges their secret nobility from there secret moonbase.  why so serious?

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Reply #41 on: October 10, 2017, 09:06:09 AM

The third hour was much better, but still amongst the worst TV I've seen in a long while. Frankly, I'm shocked Marvel allowed it to air.

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Reply #42 on: October 22, 2017, 10:12:37 PM

If I understand the internal Marvel politics right, the Inhumans are the majority shareholders pet project and why they were originally on the movie list or whatever.

Im  guessing shitty TV show is a win as far as the movie branch is concerned.

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Reply #43 on: October 23, 2017, 12:15:31 AM

If I understand the internal Marvel politics right, the Inhumans are the majority shareholders pet project and why they were originally on the movie list or whatever.

Im  guessing shitty TV show is a win as far as the movie branch is concerned.

it's the "wish we could do X-Men" project which was supposed to come out as a movie but when the movies were taken away from a certain person all he could do was push it as a tv-series instead... (or so the rumour goes)
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Reply #44 on: November 11, 2017, 12:03:51 AM

I am completely shocked that they let that crap get to air.  I stuck it out to be a completionist, but it was sooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad.

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Reply #45 on: November 11, 2017, 07:38:46 AM

I am completely shocked that they let that crap get to air.  I stuck it out to be a completionist, but it was sooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad.
Same here. I stuck to it since it was only 8 episodes and I was hoping to see some improvement in the story but it turned out to be a total waste of time.
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Reply #46 on: November 11, 2017, 10:40:37 PM

Finished watching the show this afternoon and the best I can muster is "meh."  It wasn't mind-blowingly horrible but it was even remotely great either.  I honestly wasn't surprised at all when Triton turned out to still be alive and pretty much expected it when they all went to the beach.  And oh, Gorgon's dead so we need another completely badass fighter to take his place.

It felt even more disconnected from the Marvel Universe setting than AoS does, although that preview at the end was pretty sweet looking.  At least it gives me a reason to watch the episodes I have sitting on the DVR to get ready for the season premiere.

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Reply #47 on: November 11, 2017, 11:23:10 PM

I gave it 4 episodes to get better, and it didn't. I didn't feel any desire to slog through to what seemed entirely inevitable "twists".

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Reply #48 on: November 13, 2017, 01:22:29 AM

There was no need to watch the last 7 hours. Everything significant that happened in the last 7 hours was easy to predict while watching the very first hour.

I'll be very curious to see what they do with the show now.  Do they hand it over to an entirely different creative group (not that it will solve the problems with the cast, etc...)?  Do they wrap up the story in an episode or two of MAoS?  Do they wait and put any follow-up on their streaming service? 

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Reply #49 on: November 13, 2017, 07:14:30 PM

There was no need to watch the last 7 hours. Everything significant that happened in the last 7 hours was easy to predict while watching the very first hour.

I'll be very curious to see what they do with the show now.  Do they hand it over to an entirely different creative group (not that it will solve the problems with the cast, etc...)?  Do they wrap up the story in an episode or two of MAoS?  Do they wait and put any follow-up on their streaming service? 

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The movies thus far have not acknowledged AOS or any of the netflix marvel shows and you think they will do anything for the inhumans? Expect Magneto in the MCU before inhumans is even given lip service.

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Reply #50 on: November 13, 2017, 08:50:41 PM

Answer: they are going to forget this show ever existed for now. And then the Infinity War thing is going to let them reboot the MCU entirely circa 2020. At that point anything they don't want will never have happened.

I am sure this show is first on the list of "never happened, never heard of it."
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Reply #51 on: November 14, 2017, 01:11:59 AM

There was no need to watch the last 7 hours. Everything significant that happened in the last 7 hours was easy to predict while watching the very first hour.

I'll be very curious to see what they do with the show now.  Do they hand it over to an entirely different creative group (not that it will solve the problems with the cast, etc...)?  Do they wrap up the story in an episode or two of MAoS?  Do they wait and put any follow-up on their streaming service? 

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The movies thus far have not acknowledged AOS or any of the netflix marvel shows and you think they will do anything for the inhumans? Expect Magneto in the MCU before inhumans is even given lip service.

Also doesn't Inhumans exist as a TV series largely because Feige didn't want anything to do with Perlmutter's pet project? Everything that's been hinted at in regards to the behind the scenes schism between the TV and movie sides of the MCU suggests that there is no way in hell Inhumans was going to tie into anything movie related.
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Reply #52 on: November 14, 2017, 05:48:11 AM

Yeah. What I've seen is basically Perlmutter pushed it, Jeph Loeb signed up to be Perlmutter's flunky on pushing it, and everyone else stepped away and said, "What's that bad smell? I dunno, don't see anything."
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Reply #53 on: November 14, 2017, 12:15:36 PM

There is a wall in the Marvel office with plans going ahead 15 to 20 years.  It changes all the time.  However, one of those changes was turning the Inhumans movie into a TV series.  That makes it unique in key ways - it was part of the interwoven MCU plan as a movie, but is now a TV series.  That *could* result in it having different treatment.  This could be the one example where the movie plans were executed in TV and gives rise to impacts from a TV show in the movies.

Could.




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Reply #54 on: November 14, 2017, 01:30:08 PM

Not likely, given that the rating were so bad they are being blamed for Dateline beating 20/20 by a two to one margin. 

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/13/inhumans-finale-ratings-mcu/

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Reply #55 on: November 14, 2017, 02:16:57 PM

Those numbers are much better than that show deserves. Holy shit, it was bad and I only watched the pilot.

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Reply #56 on: November 14, 2017, 03:00:10 PM

Have no doubt: This made Iron Fist look amazing. It was horrible. Only diehard completionists watched it. I bet they wish they could take it all back.

But the question to me, given the time frame involved in all their planning, is whether - due to the unique circumstances of this film to tv series show - there will be any ramifications in the MCU. Due to the origin story of the show itself, I could see it, but it would tick me off to see it here when worthing shows are relegated to fan fiction zones.

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Reply #57 on: November 14, 2017, 06:16:41 PM

In a funny kind of way, it's an affirmation of the entire MCU's plan to date, which is: Marvel superheroes that are translated to screen (or TV) without thoughtful attempts to design them visually *and* make their stories make sense in a pseudo-realistic sense equals total failure. You could almost look at Inhumans as proof of everything that everyone involved in the MCU planning has been preaching as gospel: there but for the grace of Feige go we.
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Reply #58 on: November 14, 2017, 06:30:01 PM

There is a wall in the Marvel office with plans going ahead 15 to 20 years.  It changes all the time.  However, one of those changes was turning the Inhumans movie into a TV series.  That makes it unique in key ways - it was part of the interwoven MCU plan as a movie, but is now a TV series.  That *could* result in it having different treatment.  This could be the one example where the movie plans were executed in TV and gives rise to impacts from a TV show in the movies.

Could.


Again, this is a TV show that seemingly only exists because Feige no longer had to report to Perlmutter and thus was no longer being pushed into doing an Inhumans movie. This wasn't a show that was going to signal a new unity between the TV and movie sides of the MCU, it signaled that there was now a firm division between the two sides even on a business level.
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