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Reply #70 on: September 04, 2017, 01:14:45 PM

Destiny works best on consoles because it has Bungie's extremely good console controls. Gunplay in Destiny 1 on PS4 felt great and I had a lot of fun with it.

There was not matchmaking for anything but strikes however and the hardest difficulty stuff was mostly just really boring exploit-encouraging nonsense. Oh ha, everything nearly one-shots you- time to farm up weapons that let you trivialize encounters, or stand in corners with your whole party and shoot through doors or exploit the AI in such and such a way, or whatever. No one ever gets difficulty right in the end.

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Reply #71 on: September 05, 2017, 04:41:41 AM

I feel like its worth reiterating that Bungie has never been a good developer. They pretty much suck ass.
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Reply #72 on: September 05, 2017, 01:45:32 PM

Halo 1 is one of those games that manages to be fun in spite of itself.  The maps in the single-player alone would have sunk a lesser game.  The horrible, endlessly-repeating-the-same-100ft-of-room-and-tunnel single player maps.  I remember somebody quipping "the main security measure against releasing the Flood was that anyone searching for them would just get bored and go home."

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Reply #73 on: September 05, 2017, 01:52:42 PM

I remember spending most of my time in Halo 1 "gun-running" a la the early Counter-Strike betas cause of the weird ammo system.
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Reply #74 on: September 11, 2017, 09:30:55 AM

I am hearing mostly-good reports.  Might get this sooner instead of later.

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Reply #75 on: September 11, 2017, 09:42:32 AM

I caved and spent the weekend playing. Finished the story which was good but a tad short. Finishing the story opens up a bunch of post-game activities so there is still plenty of game left - it's also the only way to get a sparrow so I felt the NEED to grind through the story. Fast travel is ok, but there are some really long traverses between travel points that you need a sparrow.

It's pretty much a continuation of Destiny 1, which I am torn on. All the baddies are the same... same factions, same weapons, same tactics (though the Fallen melee are a bit more aggressive).That was nice to see all the familiar factions and how they fit and how to beat them.

But on the other hand, it is exactly the same as the last game... nothing new in terms of big bads. Basically just Destiny 1 with new maps and slightly different grind focus. I liked Destiny 1 well enough that I am not dissatisfied, but paying $60 for what amounts to a new map and voice packs for the first game is a tad groan-worthy.

A cool feature I really liked is when you start the game fresh, it loads in your accomplishments from Destiny 1, recaps what you did, when you did, and who you were with - pretty cool to see when I beat the story, raided, etc. Was a bit taken aback when I noticed this was back in 2014... FFS, 3 years already?

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Reply #76 on: September 11, 2017, 11:25:13 AM

 Get off my lawn!

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Reply #77 on: September 12, 2017, 08:35:37 PM

Finished the story on two characters and am now running through the worlds after the red war. There's a lot of shit to do that wasn't there in the first game.

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Reply #78 on: September 13, 2017, 09:22:00 AM

Guys, this game is a lot of FUN. The shooting just feels good, even with a controller.

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Reply #79 on: September 13, 2017, 04:26:45 PM


The premier game for handicapped systems?

Pretty much feel I got most of what this can offer out of warframe already, and if I wanted to a PvP shooter it would probably be over-watch.

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Reply #80 on: September 13, 2017, 08:50:43 PM

Yeah, no.

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Reply #81 on: September 14, 2017, 02:14:12 PM

Pretty much feel I got most of what this can offer out of warframe already

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Reply #82 on: September 14, 2017, 03:00:29 PM

Gotta say, I'm liking this better than the first. I lost one of the guys who went into Destiny 1 (stupid ass is having a kid... I mean come on). So now I have to do strikes with strangers. The horror!

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Reply #83 on: September 16, 2017, 04:21:27 PM

Even with a controller, the shooting just feels a lot tighter. And Destiny 1 was still pretty darn good for that.

I still have a PC version on pre-order as well, because...why not?  awesome, for real

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Reply #84 on: September 17, 2017, 01:19:44 PM

Yeah, no.

With the upcoming Plains of Eidolon expansion for Warframe, I fail to see how Destiny 2 is better in any significant way.

https://www.warframe.com/news/tennocon-announcement-recap

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Reply #85 on: September 17, 2017, 04:57:23 PM

Still no. Warframe’s shooting is still sloppier and bolting on some open-world shit isn’t going to help that.

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Reply #86 on: September 17, 2017, 09:18:22 PM

Still no. Warframe’s shooting is still sloppier and bolting on some open-world shit isn’t going to help that.

I didn't find Destiny 2's shooting any better or worse than what I've played in Warframe, at least on the PC (might be different on console).  It's not like D2 is revolutionizing the FPS genre.  Besides, Warframe's expansion should bring it closer to what D2 has to offer WRT MMO like features.

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Reply #87 on: September 19, 2017, 08:21:05 AM

I played Warframe on PC and PS4.  Destiny 1 & 2 shooting is better.  Obviously there is room for opinion here.  Destiny isn't breaking new ground as a game, but the rooty-tooty-point-n-shooty is the best I've played.

I should probably mention that I favor the bow in Warframe.  Also Destiny swordplay is kinda ass.

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Reply #88 on: October 15, 2017, 05:32:08 AM

I've been seeing a lot of negative reviews/videos about Destiny 2.  This one sums most of them up.  I hope it's not the case because I am looking forward to playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=276&v=Hv-GVirXDoQ

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Reply #89 on: October 15, 2017, 06:57:57 AM

Debating on cancelling my preorder as well. Got kinda burned with the Division, and I'd really like to avoid a repeat. Still, it's hard to filter the reviews between people who played "just Destiny 1 Vanilla, no expansions" and the die-hard, been-with-it-forever reviews. The latter seem to be more disappointed with D2 because it's basically more of the same that they've already played and they don't understand why they had to buy a whole new game, while the former seem to enjoy the changes (even if the changes been around since The Taken King), but still feel unfulfilled.

I'm sure as someone who's never played it at all, I'll enjoy it for a time once it releases on PC (the PC port may also explain why sales for D2 are slumping compared to D1; #MasterRace folks are holding out for the better experience). And maybe by the time I get to the end-game and max out they'll have more content and address the issues they're having. Again, I've never played, but stuff like the change to shaders being a consumable and not a one-time-unlock-for-life is just swamp poop to me.
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Reply #90 on: October 15, 2017, 11:38:21 AM

I might get it in a few years. Right now it sounds like a worse game than Destiny with expansions except for a more cinematic single player campaign.
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Reply #91 on: October 15, 2017, 06:05:41 PM

Main impression I got is that it is just a destiny 1 refresh. Same mobs, classes, mechanics... just kicks everyone down to level 1, invalidates all the old content (but reuses some maps) and introduces a new bad (who will be dead by the end of the story). Still hasn't really solved how to make a shooter MMO with minimal class synergies not be repetitive shooting at bullet sponge enemies in the end game.

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Reply #92 on: October 15, 2017, 10:46:07 PM

Bungie took the wrong cues from the wrong players and whiffed on this one.

D1 was significantly more fun and natural feeling than this one was. The story wasn't as laid out for you, but you had a lot more choices, activity-wise. The decision to change PVP dramatically and to allow those changes to hold sway over PVE was dumb. 4-on-4 is dumb, the absolute necessity in the current meta to stay grouped because 1 person versus 2 or more usually ends that single player's run rather quickly takes some of the fun out of being able run and gun with different weapon/skill combos. Everyone in Trials is using a fucking MIDA multi-tool because you're not competitive if you're not using it. The raid is the least fun, most mechanic heavy, least forgiving raid they've come up with so far. Worse than Hard Mode King's Fall. The margins for error if you don't have the right class/skill mixture are non-existent.

It's a mess.

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Reply #93 on: October 16, 2017, 05:52:43 AM

I heard they fucked the raid up. A lot of people I know were frustrated with it. Everything else is pretty much Destiny 1 as far as I can tell outside of the loot-grind feeling a lot longer because only specific activities will give you gear notably above your current power level.

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Reply #94 on: October 16, 2017, 08:26:58 AM

IHMO, this is just basically a $60 expansion pack of D1 with a full character reset. New maps and new story, but everything else is like D1. I enjoy messing around with it, but when I play I can't get comfortable with the fact this game is full price. For full price, I'd expect more gameplay changes and new mobs to justify the expense... I got my money's worth, but probably not going to continue with the destiny series.

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Reply #95 on: October 16, 2017, 01:38:04 PM

There are a lot of new mobs. The skins may be similar but a lot of behaviors have changed. With probably the exception of the Taken and the Hive. There’s a lot of things to bitch about, but IMO, that’s not one of them.

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Reply #96 on: October 16, 2017, 03:48:11 PM

There are a lot of new mobs. The skins may be similar but a lot of behaviors have changed. With probably the exception of the Taken and the Hive. There’s a lot of things to bitch about, but IMO, that’s not one of them.

Did I miss some new fallen or cabal models? Yeah their behavior is a bit different but nothing ground breaking. But the fallen still have the dregs, vandals, captains, and servitors. Cabal has the same psions, grunts, commanders, bosses. Some new skins but I can't recall any really NEW models. I enjoyed the familiarity but just having a hard time justifying the full price. But that's me.


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Reply #97 on: October 17, 2017, 08:39:12 AM

I've been seeing a lot of negative reviews/videos about Destiny 2.  This one sums most of them up.  I hope it's not the case because I am looking forward to playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=276&v=Hv-GVirXDoQ

It didn't take long to get to the "I didn't play Destiny 1 either" and close the video.  If you didn't like Destiny. Destiny 2 isn't a different game.

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Reply #98 on: October 17, 2017, 08:44:08 AM

I'm having fun and I've spent more money on dumber things.  I'm not playing PvP and I haven't tried a raid.  I had to get into a group of "less responsible" players just to finish the raids in D1 so, eh.

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Reply #99 on: October 17, 2017, 12:11:59 PM

how do you fuck up shooty shooty + loot
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Reply #100 on: October 17, 2017, 02:18:29 PM

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Reply #101 on: October 17, 2017, 03:10:56 PM

how do you fuck up shooty shooty + loot

focusing on the loot.

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Reply #102 on: October 17, 2017, 04:59:50 PM

how do you fuck up shooty shooty + loot

focusing on the loot.
That's both incorrect and not what happened in Destiny 2.

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Reply #103 on: October 17, 2017, 05:15:56 PM

how do you fuck up shooty shooty + loot

focusing on the loot.
this is the worst possible answer of tons of possible answers
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Reply #104 on: October 18, 2017, 01:13:27 AM

how do you fuck up shooty shooty + loot

focusing on the loot.
That's both incorrect and not what happened in Destiny 2.

Bingo. They standardized the loot in the name of fairness to the filthy casuals and then catered the rest of the game to the worst instincts of the hardcores.

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