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Reply #175 on: December 18, 2017, 09:28:28 PM

Lyft is almost as bad as Uber.
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Reply #176 on: December 18, 2017, 10:02:23 PM

I've talked to people who've worked both places, and Uber sounds like it's a special circle of hell.

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Reply #177 on: December 19, 2017, 09:22:23 AM

 Theyíre both built on the concept that if they spend enough investor capital they will eventually have a monopoly.
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Reply #178 on: December 19, 2017, 09:33:15 AM

It worked for Amazon!

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Reply #179 on: December 20, 2017, 05:50:20 PM

I use the train to get to the airport, or I drive myself and pay for parking at park and ride.

Because fuck those clowns.

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Reply #180 on: December 21, 2017, 04:52:09 AM

Uber in Bangkok is a god send considering how shitty the cab drivers have gotten.

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Reply #181 on: January 09, 2018, 09:19:12 PM

By the way, the asshole who was the founder of Juicero is now making the news for spreading an even worse idea: "raw water".
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Reply #182 on: January 09, 2018, 10:50:15 PM

I read that and was again dumbfounded by the rarefied air in that Silicon Valley bubble.

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Reply #183 on: January 09, 2018, 10:52:13 PM

By the way, the asshole who was the founder of Juicero is now making the news for spreading an even worse idea: "raw water".

Holy crap that is the same guy?

Well, you gotta give him the lock in for a demographic....
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Reply #184 on: January 10, 2018, 12:08:32 AM

He didn't start the trend but he is trying to cash in on the "alt water" trend (his is not exactly "raw water" as the term is currently being used) by selling a system to collect water vapor: https://www.zeromasswater.com/

As a kid the best water I ever tasted was "raw" Sierra mountain runoff water and a bunch of us got sick from it. The place we were staying even warned us before hand not to drink from streams and rivers but we had to try it anyways with the inevitable results.
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Reply #185 on: January 10, 2018, 08:33:37 AM

Kodak's stock jumped 77% yesterday because they announced a new cryptocurrency.

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KodakCoins will work as tokens inside the new blockchain-powered KodakOne rights management platform. The platform will supposedly create a digital ledger of rights ownership that photographers can use to register and license new and old work. Both the platform and cryptocurrency are supposed to ďempower photographers and agencies to take greater control in image rights management,Ē according to the press release. The digital currency is meant to create a new economy for photographers to receive payment and sell work on a secure platform.

As a photographer, I can tell you that the digital rights problem that needs solving is not 'buyers purchasing from legitimate creators'. Stock agencies and photo buyers are already pretty good at handling rights. Also why is everyone suddenly going to get locked into a proprietary purchase system using cryptocurrency as tokens, when places like Getty Images, iStock, Adobe Stock and literally hundreds more well-known sites exist that take regular currency?

Kodak also announced a dedicated Bitcoin mining rig that you can rent for $3400 for a 2 year contract. They send the rig to their partner who plug it in and operate it for you and you get 50% of all the Dunning-Krugerrands that it mines in that time.  swamp poop

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Reply #186 on: January 10, 2018, 08:35:19 AM

Which could possibly mean it takes more than 2 years to mine a bitcoin, so you get half of NOTHING!!! [/Willie Wonka]

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Reply #187 on: January 10, 2018, 10:16:36 AM

Kodak is desperately trying to find a business model since they got obsoleted by digital formats. It's probably an interesting study in how a corporate entity exists on brand name alone.

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Reply #188 on: January 25, 2018, 01:43:20 PM

I think this Tesla Model 3 issue belongs in here:




Customer: "My car doesn't drive straight"
Tesla: "It's a software bug, we'll patch it later, eventually."

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-3-pulling-to-right-fw-bug.106970/

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Reply #189 on: January 25, 2018, 08:31:47 PM

Yeah, there is a lot of Model 3 stuff bubbling up like this. Get ready for an entirely new kind of car accident: "oh the update only partially downloaded" and "oh there was a software conflict between steering control and the 3rd party brake software, so Autopilot couldn't help but kill those children in the crosswalk, sue the 3rd party vendor".
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Reply #190 on: January 28, 2018, 09:27:17 AM










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Reply #191 on: February 23, 2018, 09:18:46 PM


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Reply #192 on: February 23, 2018, 09:43:17 PM

Same idiots or new idiots operating with the same formula?

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Reply #193 on: February 23, 2018, 11:28:28 PM

The app is our modern prison of the mind.

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Reply #194 on: February 24, 2018, 09:31:38 PM

So a microwave meal + app, except you pay $599 for the microwave and $12 for microwave food.  Mob


And god, I hate the silicon valley marketing speech: "Some might describe it as the future, others a life-safer", "chef-inspired" Mob

Edit: Also, doesnt sound this yummy:

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Place your vacuum sealed, pre-seasoned protein into the removable protein pan and fill it with water. If using a Suvie Smart Meal, these packages will be good to go. If using your own recipe, simply put your seasoned protein in a sous vide compatible bag, seal it, and youíre ready.

And for people that need a machine to make noodles and warm sauce:

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Pour starches into our pasta cooking pan and add your desired level of salt, just like you would on the stove.
Add the sauce to the warming pan.
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Reply #195 on: February 24, 2018, 10:37:31 PM

Da fuq? So, it microwaves food that it has kept refrigerated until a pre-programmed time, or you activate it from your phone? Food you still have to mix together? So, it's less convenient, more expensive, and literally does nothing but move the prep time to before you leave for work. All to save me...3 or 4 minutes between when I hit the door to when I can eat?

Why the fuck would I even pay ordinary microwave prices for this pile of over designed crap?

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Reply #196 on: February 25, 2018, 01:45:53 PM

BECAUSE IT HAS AN APP!!!!!!!!

It's like you don't even have a smartphone or something.  why so serious?

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Reply #197 on: February 25, 2018, 02:08:20 PM

Fuck, I need to just design a powered recliner you control with your phone. Off the shelf "home theater" seating and an Arduino board, done. Cash in on the stupid money while idiots on Sand Hill Road still have some.

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Reply #198 on: February 25, 2018, 02:55:23 PM

Same idiots or new idiots operating with the same formula?
New/different idiots. Juicero guy is doing the Zero Mass water thing I linked above.
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Reply #199 on: February 25, 2018, 09:02:36 PM

BECAUSE IT HAS AN APP!!!!!!!!

It's like you don't even have a smartphone or something.  why so serious?

There already are wifi-enabled sous vide devices with apps. Also kickstarters for them.

Those use your own pot to cook in. So looks like they've taken that and added a box to cook it in, and juicero-style bags.
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Reply #200 on: February 25, 2018, 09:07:09 PM

So a microwave meal + app, except you pay $599 for the microwave and $12 for microwave food.  Mob
Not a microwave.
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Reply #201 on: February 25, 2018, 09:10:23 PM

Fuck, I need to just design a powered recliner you control with your phone. Off the shelf "home theater" seating and an Arduino board, done. Cash in on the stupid money while idiots on Sand Hill Road still have some.

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la-z-boy has already made this as easy as humanly possible

case in point: i bought theater seating from them
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Reply #202 on: February 25, 2018, 09:12:01 PM

But does it have an app that lets you recline the chair from your phone?

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Reply #203 on: February 25, 2018, 10:20:20 PM

Yes. My boss has one.
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Reply #204 on: February 26, 2018, 01:21:44 AM

What I really need is an app to manage my apps and make them do what I need without pushing buttons...

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Reply #205 on: February 26, 2018, 03:37:15 AM

Da fuq? So, it microwaves food that it has kept refrigerated until a pre-programmed time, or you activate it from your phone? Food you still have to mix together? So, it's less convenient, more expensive, and literally does nothing but move the prep time to before you leave for work. All to save me...3 or 4 minutes between when I hit the door to when I can eat?

Why the fuck would I even pay ordinary microwave prices for this pile of over designed crap?

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Itís actually not bad as far as these things go. Sous vide is a method of cooking where you vacuum seal the food and then immerse it in heated water or steam. This lets you have precise cooking temperatures over long periods of time with a high amount of heat transfer. Itís legitimately used in high quality restaurants.

IE itís actually a pretty good method for cooking food. The problem with sous vide is generally that it takes up a lot of space. If you want to cook multiple things at the same time youíre pretty much shit out of luck without multiple machines and multiple standing water baths.

So a single machine that will do multiple types of food at the same time(but not a lot of it) and do any necessary napkin math to start them at the right time so they all finish at the same time and also can be integrated into the kitchen like an appliance has value. Is it a microwave* for rich people? Yea, it is. Will it produce good food? Yea it probably will. Is $12 a meal expensive? Yes but less so than going to a restaurant and you can make your own food with it too.

*more accurately itís a crock-pot for rich people: you start the food when you leave and itís ready when your get back.
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Reply #206 on: February 26, 2018, 09:27:00 AM

Da fuq? So, it microwaves food that it has kept refrigerated until a pre-programmed time, or you activate it from your phone? Food you still have to mix together? So, it's less convenient, more expensive, and literally does nothing but move the prep time to before you leave for work. All to save me...3 or 4 minutes between when I hit the door to when I can eat?

Why the fuck would I even pay ordinary microwave prices for this pile of over designed crap?

--Dave

Itís actually not bad as far as these things go. Sous vide is a method of cooking where you vacuum seal the food and then immerse it in heated water or steam. This lets you have precise cooking temperatures over long periods of time with a high amount of heat transfer. Itís legitimately used in high quality restaurants.

IE itís actually a pretty good method for cooking food. The problem with sous vide is generally that it takes up a lot of space. If you want to cook multiple things at the same time youíre pretty much shit out of luck without multiple machines and multiple standing water baths.

So a single machine that will do multiple types of food at the same time(but not a lot of it) and do any necessary napkin math to start them at the right time so they all finish at the same time and also can be integrated into the kitchen like an appliance has value. Is it a microwave* for rich people? Yea, it is. Will it produce good food? Yea it probably will. Is $12 a meal expensive? Yes but less so than going to a restaurant and you can make your own food with it too.

*more accurately itís a crock-pot for rich people: you start the food when you leave and itís ready when your get back.

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Reply #207 on: February 26, 2018, 09:47:59 AM

It's a crock pot with an app priced for rich people who can probably just fucking afford someone to cook meals for them made by people who likely have their own chefs because they are rich and out of touch twats who think life must revolve around their smartphone.

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Reply #208 on: February 26, 2018, 11:48:47 AM

It's a crock pot with an app priced for rich people who can probably just fucking afford someone to cook meals for them made by people who likely have their own chefs because they are rich and out of touch twats who think life must revolve around their smartphone.

It solves a bunch of crock pot issues though.... like some ingredients overcooking into mush/inability to control doneness without actually showing up at a specific time to add ingredients, cooks things separately so strong flavors don't overwhelm everything else, and the fact you have to be there to turn the heat down when it is done.  The app makes sense, in that you can schedule it on the fly to be done when you expect to be home. 

It's a $500 toy for foodies with disposable income/professionals, if it works per specs.  If that is their market, and they are just shooting for that market, sounds fine.  I mean, Blue Apron and the like are a thing because people feel like massively overpaying for an internet recipe and not going to a grocery store.

No more dumb than gaming monitors, 4k TVs, gambling in Vegas, buying a car new, or going to a chiropractor.  Well... its probably significantly less dumb then going to a chiropractor.
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Reply #209 on: February 26, 2018, 02:27:39 PM

It's a crock pot with an app priced for rich people who can probably just fucking afford someone to cook meals for them made by people who likely have their own chefs because they are rich and out of touch twats who think life must revolve around their smartphone.

For 600 dollars + $12 per day you sure as shit cannot afford for someone to cook meals for you. But if you're a say two income household where neither participant wants to come home and cook for 30 minutes to an hour (or spend the time to figure out what to make*) but also wants to eat well it seems like a pretty reasonable option.

*Which is a surprisingly legitimate quality of life issue
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