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Reply #35 on: March 24, 2017, 10:11:26 AM

That's actually not what they are doing in this show.

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Reply #36 on: March 24, 2017, 11:53:27 AM

Yeah, not sure where you got that idea. 

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Reply #37 on: March 26, 2017, 11:31:56 AM

Um, I am an episode behind, but the last episode was literally the entire cast in a mental hospital, playing the roles of long-term patients there. Now I guess it's David creating it all and not just a Buffy-esque illusion but the effect to the viewer was the same.

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Reply #38 on: March 26, 2017, 08:53:32 PM

I love everything about this show. I am ecstatic they renewed it.

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Reply #39 on: March 27, 2017, 07:17:26 AM

Yeah, even if they manage to completely mess up the last episode (and I doubt that), it's still possibly the best live action "superhero" show ever, and a damn great show in general.
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Reply #40 on: March 27, 2017, 09:04:30 AM

I'm actually bummed they info dumped in that episode. I liked everything being vague and wtf. Then for some reason 'ok, here's everything that's been going on spelled out for you now.'

Bah.

Show is still amazing, but I feel that weakened things quite a bit and took a lot of the surreal feeling out of it.

Nice 'They Live' nod, though again, kinda ham-fisted and immersion breaking. Amazing they got so far into it before upsetting the psychedelia cart, though.

edit: the Parks & Rec chick has been redonkulously good in this show
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Reply #41 on: March 27, 2017, 02:55:53 PM

edit: the Parks & Rec chick has been redonkulously good in this show

Shit yes. This is the only other thing I've seen her in other than P&R and I really hope it leads to a lot more work for her.

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Reply #42 on: March 27, 2017, 05:53:36 PM

edit: the Parks & Rec chick has been redonkulously good in this show

Shit yes. This is the only other thing I've seen her in other than P&R and I really hope it leads to a lot more work for her.

Aubrey Plaza.  I concur.
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Reply #43 on: March 27, 2017, 06:26:35 PM

I only recognized her as a background character in Scott Pilgrim.

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Reply #44 on: March 27, 2017, 06:34:32 PM

Aubrey Plaza was also in two of the past years better comedy films, Mike & Dave Need Wedding Dates and Dirty Grandpa, both of which were worth watching/funny as well as featuring her in skimpy outfits. ;)


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Reply #45 on: March 29, 2017, 03:42:37 PM

The sets are amazing for this show.

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Reply #46 on: March 30, 2017, 06:58:40 AM

Stay until the end of credits.
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Reply #47 on: March 30, 2017, 06:32:45 PM

So looking forward to Jemaine Clement next season.

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Reply #48 on: April 04, 2017, 01:45:56 PM

That was brilliant. So unusual too, in many ways. Looking forward to second season immensely, and also looking forward to watching this again sometime between now and then.

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Reply #49 on: April 24, 2017, 03:32:49 PM

Finally got to binge watch to the end of this season.

HOLY. SHIT.

I kind of knew who the villain was the entire time, I just wasn't sure they were going to use him/it. Aubrey Plaza KILLED IT but then just about everyone else did pretty good too. This is one of the trippiest, most amazing visual accomplishments I've ever seen, from all the different design aesthetics that somehow mesh to the uses of black and white and the different film techniques. It was wonderful and dreamy and yet still made sense once it all got explained. I thought the info dump was terribly necessary but also really well done - it might have been a little wordy but that was probably necessary for the average viewer.

Between this, Feud, Archer and Always Sunny, the FX/FXX networks are just beating the pants off every other network except maybe HBO.

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Reply #50 on: April 24, 2017, 04:52:09 PM

You forgot Fargo, which imo bumps FX over HBO.  Also I thought man seeking woman was funnier than archer and sunny.

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Reply #51 on: April 24, 2017, 05:23:40 PM

I did forget to mention Fargo. Same showrunner as Legion and I think he really outdid himself. So yes, FX wins. Actually, we all win because two networks producing so much good content in addition to Netflix and Amazon Prime means that there's more great TV to watch than time to watch it.

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Reply #52 on: July 19, 2017, 03:10:36 PM

Sucked this whole thing down in two days and I loved it.  For a huge variety of reasons, most of which are mentioned here.

However, Question :

I haven't read Legion in literally years - but wasn't he ACTUALLY Schizophrenic ?  Did they just dump that shit ?


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Reply #53 on: July 19, 2017, 03:18:40 PM

Yes, in the original, I think he was schizo, though he did have the Shadow King controlling him as well.

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Reply #54 on: July 19, 2017, 04:11:52 PM

I think at the time the character was created Dissociative Identity Disorder and Schizophrenia were still largely being conflated.
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Reply #55 on: April 09, 2018, 08:01:22 PM

Season 2 started last week. I had to watch it twice to figure out what was going on lol.
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Reply #56 on: June 26, 2019, 02:51:16 AM

Season 3 continues the sweet delicious madness.
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Reply #57 on: July 23, 2019, 09:13:48 PM

So maybe I'm just dumb but I'm beginning to think drug use is some kinda theme.  why so serious?

Anyway I finally got a chance to watch the first two episodes. I think so far it's stronger than season 2 (even though I really liked s2).

I'd like to think the headbands are an Easter Egg of sorts. Back during the original Dark Phoenix Saga Beast made something similar to dampen Phoenix's powers.

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Reply #58 on: August 15, 2019, 05:51:03 PM

Just started watching again, can anyone refresh my memory... what happened to the black dude that he's a robot now?

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Reply #59 on: August 15, 2019, 06:43:23 PM

Just started watching again, can anyone refresh my memory... what happened to the black dude that he's a robot now?

I watched that episode and have no idea lol.

IIRC something got into Ptonomy's (had to look that up lol) body and he basically exploded (or imploded; whatever his body was destroyed). Somehow he got integrated with the mainframe. Last season after his body died, he would either talk through one of the mustached women or you'd see him physically in a special set designed to show him "living" in a mechanical brain. I forget how it was laid out but it was obvious that was the impression they wanted the audience to have.

Now as to the "something" I mentioned earlier: I still have no idea what it was. Now that you've brought it up it had to be a manifestation of David somehow but I still don't get the connection. If you watched season 2 you saw how basically they started every episode talking about an idea/deception/lie (I can't remember what it was tbh); they'd show the effects, and sometimes a physical manifestation. This is the thing that killed his body, but I was confused because I thought all that stuff was allegory, but apparently it was real. The lie/idea revolves around David's self perception so that has to mean David killed Ptonomy, consciously or subconsciously. David never shows that he's aware that he killed Ptonomy so I'm guessing it was subconsciously.

Pretty sure season 3 introduces Ptonomy's new robot body.  

I think I missed the past couple of episodes so I'm going to watch them now.

Sometimes Legion is a hard watch for me. I have family members (mostly cousins and uncles/aunts) that have mental disorders, abused drugs and have suffered from depression so sometimes this stuff really gets to me.
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Reply #60 on: August 16, 2019, 12:17:03 AM

They actually don't make it clear who was actually behind the brain bugs.  I just watched that episode for the fiirst time tonight.  I almost feel like it was a completely tangential story and they were supposed to be an analog for the Brood from the comics, and it was just random happenstance that fucked everything up, given how David addresses it at the end.

edit: now that I'm caught up with season 2, I might be wrong, but they never explicitly say what was going on.  I dunno if it was cleared up in season 3 or not.
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Reply #61 on: August 20, 2019, 03:38:22 PM

They actually don't make it clear who was actually behind the brain bugs.  I just watched that episode for the fiirst time tonight.  I almost feel like it was a completely tangential story and they were supposed to be an analog for the Brood from the comics, and it was just random happenstance that fucked everything up, given how David addresses it at the end.

edit: now that I'm caught up with season 2, I might be wrong, but they never explicitly say what was going on.  I dunno if it was cleared up in season 3 or not.

They don't address that issue at all.

I really liked season 3. Even with a deus ex machina.
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Reply #62 on: August 20, 2019, 06:26:21 PM

It was a satisfying ending, felt a little rushed but any other network would have just cancelled the show so I won't complain.

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Reply #63 on: August 29, 2019, 03:23:51 PM

They actually don't make it clear who was actually behind the brain bugs.  I just watched that episode for the fiirst time tonight.  I almost feel like it was a completely tangential story and they were supposed to be an analog for the Brood from the comics, and it was just random happenstance that fucked everything up, given how David addresses it at the end.

edit: now that I'm caught up with season 2, I might be wrong, but they never explicitly say what was going on.  I dunno if it was cleared up in season 3 or not.

They don't address that issue at all.

I really liked season 3. Even with a deus ex machina.

I didn't get the impression that anyone was behind the brain bugs, but that they where a delusion made real, just as described.
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