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Topic: Logan (aka Wolverine 3, aka Old Man Logan) (Read 39982 times)
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TheWalrus
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Holy fuck that's reaching. I'm glad I've never read Xmen comics. I can accept all your weird abilities as long as you aren't fucking timelines.
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palmer_eldritch
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Old Man Logan in the comics is a fun standalone story which you can buy in graphic novel format if you're minded. It's set in an alternative reality cut off from the main Marvel reality and I'm guessing the easiest thing will be to assume the movie is the same.
(There was apparently a new Old Man Logan mini series in 2015 but it was part of the terrible Secret Wars storyline so I haven't read it).
I also like Laura Kinney.
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Khaldun
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The Secret Wars Old Man Logan was almost better in a way--less nasty than the original, but still tough.
The new one is...ok. It's too caught up in the hideous mess that the current X-Men comics are.
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HaemishM
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I didn't know the Old Man Logan was a standalone - I only knew the Secret Wars version, which was decent. The current series is just... well, it's fucked really because the need to put Logan in the goddamn Limbo X-men and to try to explain without explaining how he still exists from the Secret Wars in a universe that was never his. I'd wager about half of the books that bother to acknowledge the Secret Wars do so in a way that isn't completely cackhanded. Incidentally, none of those books are X-Men books, which are all pretty uniformly terrible right now.
The Avengers books post-Secret Wars, however, are all good.
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palmer_eldritch
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I didn't know the Old Man Logan was a standalone - I only knew the Secret Wars version, which was decent. The current series is just... well, it's fucked really because the need to put Logan in the goddamn Limbo X-men and to try to explain without explaining how he still exists from the Secret Wars in a universe that was never his. I'd wager about half of the books that bother to acknowledge the Secret Wars do so in a way that isn't completely cackhanded. Incidentally, none of those books are X-Men books, which are all pretty uniformly terrible right now.
The Avengers books post-Secret Wars, however, are all good.
Well it was part of the Wolverine book but it was a standalone story stretched over a few issues which you can buy as a graphic novel (though the trailer for this film gives the impression it's very loosely based on the book, so it may be a bit of a spoiler?) Sounds like the Secret Wars version might be worth checking out.
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Shannow
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New trailer is here. I'm fucking in.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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New trailer is here. I'm fucking in. well then... that, was... impressive.
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Threash
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Has any franchise ever been pulled out of a hole as deep as Wolverine? this might be the best come back ever.
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TheWalrus
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Ghostbusters?
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Khaldun
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It's a case of the greatest casting ever wasted--two crappy solo movies, 1 terrible team movie, 3 decent team movies. I'm glad they're going to use him well for one last go-round.
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Trippy
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I can't understand what he's saying.
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Khaldun
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There are two claws?
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MahrinSkel
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When she crossed over, she was just a ship. But when she came back... she was bullshit!
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"Two days on the road, only one meal, I haven't had any sleep, she's eleven, I'm fucking 90."
--Charles Xavier
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Lakov_Sanite
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"Two days on the road, only one meal, I haven't had any sleep, she's eleven, I'm fucking 90."
--Charles Xavier
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~a horrific, dark simulacrum that glares balefully at us, with evil intent.
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Trippy
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There are two claws?
For X-23? Yes.
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Cadaverine
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There are two claws?
Two claws on her hands, and a single claw on each foot.
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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That was a damned good trailer.
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"Bourgeois society stands at the crossroads, either transition to socialism or regression into barbarism" - Rosa Luxemburg, 1915.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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There are two claws?
Doubt you could fit another one in those wrists. And seriously, who the hell would do that to an 11 year old kid?
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Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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Lakov_Sanite
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There are two claws?
Doubt you could fit another one in those wrists. And seriously, who the hell would do that to an 11 year old kid? Well it's a natural mutation like Logan, she has bone claws in the trailer.
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01101010
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You call it an accident. I call it justice.
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Doubt you could fit another one in those wrists. And seriously, who the hell would do that to an 11 year old kid?
Well it's a natural mutation like Logan, she has bone claws in the trailer. Hard to tell in the trailer, and the sound effects sure don't make it seem like they are bone.
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Does any one know where the love of God goes...When the waves turn the minutes to hours? -G. Lightfoot
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Fordel
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She was born with the bone claws, but got the metal claw upgrade, but not the metal bone upgrade, as she still needed to grow into her bones.
Comic Origin (that will probably spoil some of the movie):
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and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Probably my favorite movie in the X-men franchise although I've never really loved any movie in the series before. Logan has a bit of an Unforgiven vibe to me (within the movie itself though they draw some parallels to another Western).
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Threash
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Yeah, this was fucking great.
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Soulflame
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This is really great. I had no idea I would enjoy watching an 11 year old girl murder 100 people that much.
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Draegan
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So I shouldn't bring my 4 year old daughter?
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Merusk
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No, take her. It'll be great.
I give it a 7/10, only because it couldn't keep the interest of the 20-something kids to either side of me so we had to shush both groups. It moved slower than I expected but was a good sendoff.
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Pennilenko
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Probably not appropriate for a four year old.
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Khaldun
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It was great. I loved that it had some time for the characters to breathe in between the action. Gave it real emotional stakes.
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TheWalrus
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I hate that movies have to have shit blowing up and fists flying every second. Downtime isn't a bad thing as long it's thoughtful.
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Ironwood
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Holy Fuck, this Movie.
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"Mr Soft Owl has Seen Some Shit." - Sun Tzu
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Ghambit
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No shit.
As I pondered the performances after the movie... The girl who played X-23 is about to become quite the known celebrity. No doubt. It was a HomeAlone level of small child performance, easily... and if she doesn't get an award nod, I would be extremely surprised. Helluva performance in a role that basically has NEVER been done on the bigscreen for a kid that age; ever. Or at least I can't think of any.
As for it being the best X-men movie? Don't think so. Mainly because this movie is not really a supers flick. It stands on its own more like Dark Knight did. Also, it more so ushers in a new genre of movie, while closing the chapter on the "old x-men" timeline. As a point of film art? It is the best of all the supers movies ever really; or at least a close 2nd to Dark Knight - mainly because Heath Ledger.
My one gripe being the cinematography wasn't quite what I wanted; the landscapes of NM (and the american southwest) and more fascinating intimate camera angles being mis-represented really. They could have done a better job there for sure.... it's almost like the framing just wasn't right or there was clipping but this is a minor gripe given the movie is still by its nature an action flick.
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Soulflame
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So I shouldn't bring my 4 year old daughter?
I know this is in jest, but a couple things, one funny, and the other observational. Apparently movie theaters have been putting up very large signs to warn parent to not bring their children to this, mainly because of the whole hilarious problem with parents being too stupid to realize that Deadpool is not an age appropriate comic book movie for small children. Quite a lot of the most gruesome violence takes place out of the view of the camera, but you do see the adorable murder machine slice and stab a whole lot of people. Probably not a good movie for anyone under the age of 17. Possibly 14.
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Threash
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The very first word of the movie is fuck and the very first scene is the most gruesome fight in the entire movie so anyone who brings their children will know in the first 2 minutes that they should get out. On the other hand Laura sounds just like Dora the Explorer so your 4 yo might like it!
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« Last Edit: March 05, 2017, 12:33:55 PM by taolurker »
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I used to write for extinct gaming sites details available here (unused blog about page)
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