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jgsugden
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on: April 29, 2016, 11:55:59 AM

Not a drill... Netflix has given the greenlight. Date TBD.

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Reply #1 on: April 29, 2016, 04:22:40 PM


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Reply #2 on: April 29, 2016, 05:57:10 PM

Unless Netflix changes their stance on 2 Marvel shows a year, we aren't seeing this til like 2019-2020.
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Reply #3 on: September 20, 2017, 08:12:20 PM

New materials out there, but still no release date... still expecting this year.

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Reply #4 on: September 21, 2017, 02:52:26 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIY6zFL95hE

I liked how they used Metallica on the trailer.

edit: and they flash a 2017 date at the end of the trailer  awesome, for real
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Reply #5 on: September 21, 2017, 07:29:57 AM

That looks great. I'll forgive using an Anti-War song for it.

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Reply #6 on: September 21, 2017, 07:57:41 AM

Which song was the anti-war song?

Also, looks very promising!

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Reply #7 on: September 21, 2017, 08:07:47 AM

Which song was the anti-war song?

One?
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Reply #8 on: September 21, 2017, 08:09:40 AM

“Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.”

edit: yikes, long time since I've listened to Metallica to make a mistake like that
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Reply #9 on: September 21, 2017, 08:30:02 AM

Which song was the anti-war song?

One?

Yes. The story of Johnny isn't exactly extolling the virtues and machismo of sacrificing for cause and country.  It's based on Johnny Got His Gun and uses clips from the movie in the video.  It's absolutely meant as an anti-war song.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Got_His_Gun

Many forget Metallica was called "the thinking man's heavy metal band" because so many of their songs had an underlying political or social message. "Master of Puppets" about the evils of addiction and specifically cocaine. "Blackened" is about nuclear war, "Ride the Lighting" is about the injustice of execution, "Leper Messiah" is a stab at televangelisim like "Make Me Laugh" by Anthrax, and "Disposable Heroes" is their earlier, less-famous anti-war anthem.  

ed: whoops, blackened is nuclear war not environmentalism.
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Reply #10 on: September 21, 2017, 09:15:53 AM

My bad, I confused the songs and thought the song playing in the trailer was Master of Puppets, which as you mentioned, is about drug abuse.

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Reply #11 on: September 21, 2017, 09:36:51 AM

Trailer looks damned good. The use of One is actually pretty perfect even though it's an anti-war song. After all, Punisher doesn't WANT the war, he just feels swept up in it. He's also pretty fucked in the head.

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Reply #12 on: September 21, 2017, 09:41:58 AM

Yeah, that's an interesting take on it. I had a similar thought, but I wasn't sure it was the best choice for conveying that.  It is, however, the most kick-ass one.

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Reply #13 on: September 21, 2017, 09:44:59 AM

Rule of cool over making absolute sense. Slayer's War Ensemble might have been more apt but it wouldn't have been as well known, nor have that difference between the acoustic arpeggios and the driving in your face shit.

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Reply #14 on: September 21, 2017, 09:54:25 AM

Agreed!

/metal derail

That trailer was pretty sweet, though. 2017 date, yay.  Just in time for Christmas? A fun time for the whole family!  awesome, for real DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #15 on: September 21, 2017, 11:43:49 AM

I'm going to watch it because I'm more committed to the netflix marvel shows than i've ever been to any person job religion or school but the trailer just looked like a generic 80s Schwarzenegger or Stallone action movie were the main character impossibly shoots down a million bad guys.

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Reply #16 on: September 21, 2017, 11:53:48 AM

So it pretty much looks like The Punisher then.

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Reply #17 on: September 21, 2017, 02:23:16 PM

I actually got the opposite of that.  The very few shots they have of him actually fighting show things more similar to Jon Wick style shooting.  Where they show he is very precise and methodical in his take downs.  Might not work out that way, but considering how amazing the fight coreography in Daredevil was, the action scenes have a lot of potential.  But again, they really didn't show very much, so could end up as you say.

The best takes on Punisher in the comics are when show that he is basically living every moment of his life as if he is still a special forces solider in a war zone.  His 'super power' is basically extreme mental focus (brought on by a severe psychological shock that broke him).  Every action has a purpose and just another step in the endless war he's trapped in.  This combined with his years of experience in black ops war fighting, puts him way ahead of most any criminal.

I was really hoping they would try to do an Afghanistan adaptation of Punisher:  Born for this, but looks like not.  :(
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Reply #18 on: September 21, 2017, 02:43:48 PM

The intensity the character has in the comics is hard to maintain constantly on film without it bring flat, especially as a main protagonist. I am eager to see it, but I am going to temper my expectations.

The panel for this weekend where the date was likely to be announced has been canceled due to Vegas.  I'm wondering if they may push the series back a bit to 2018 as well.
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Reply #19 on: October 19, 2017, 10:29:53 AM

November 17th Release Date.  I'm surprised they did not push it back after the LV incident.  Maybe they want to get it on the air before we end up going to war with North Korea.

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Reply #20 on: October 19, 2017, 10:37:50 AM

If they put something back due to something as common place as a gun massacre, we'd never see it.

And then you'd be a sad panda.

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Reply #21 on: October 19, 2017, 11:05:35 AM

If they put something back due to something as common place as a gun massacre, we'd never see it.

And then you'd be a sad panda.
True on Panda element.  I'm hoping this is of better quality than Defenders and Inhumans.  Not a high standard, there.

However, that shooting was more than the typical gun news event.  They already canceled the Punisher panel at NY Comic Con in response to it. 


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Reply #22 on: October 19, 2017, 01:25:31 PM

Uh.. NYCC was the same weekend. Yeah, they canceled it.

There will have been a whole month and a half for the news cycle to bury it by Nov. 17th.

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Reply #23 on: October 19, 2017, 11:31:06 PM

Man, you folks like to act like I have strange ideas when I say things that have been said a lot around the internet.  When they canceled CCNY, there was a lot of speculation they'd push back the series to 2018.

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Reply #24 on: October 20, 2017, 02:59:16 AM

Ok, that's another trailer down and I'm not feeling this one.  It doesn't feel like Castle to me.

Just me ?

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Reply #25 on: October 20, 2017, 03:12:52 AM


Edit:  Doh, just realized there is a brand new trailer out.  Have to wait till after work to watch it.
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Reply #26 on: October 20, 2017, 09:44:10 AM

Ok, that's another trailer down and I'm not feeling this one.  It doesn't feel like Castle to me.

Just me ?


Yeah, I think it's just you. Felt like Punisher to me, and if you saw Daredevil Season 2, I thought that was the best TV/movie portrayal of the character we've seen.

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Reply #27 on: October 20, 2017, 11:26:58 AM

Yeah, I did.  This, however, seems to be slipping away from that.

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Reply #28 on: Today at 09:56:22 AM

Man, you folks like to act like I have strange ideas when I say things that have been said a lot around the internet.  When they canceled CCNY, there was a lot of speculation they'd push back the series to 2018.

If WUA were still around he'd have shitloads of examples, with links, as to why you don't listen to the internet about business decisions. Firefly: Serenity as a success was his favorite, followed by the "destruction" of Star Wars as a viable IP via the Prequels.  Two things Nerds and Reality disagree on vehemently.

It matters not one drop what hundreds of thousands to millions of nerds collectively type in bravado on the ether.  It only matters where the dollars are, and what the average consumer's sentiment is.

IF the concerns had made it to the collective consciousness, then yes, it would have been pushed back. The collective consciousness of the US didn't link the two; only that subcategory of comic geeks and nerds.  Ergo; no, it didn't happen.

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