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Reply #315 on: January 24, 2017, 06:56:27 PM


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Reply #316 on: January 25, 2017, 08:36:42 AM

wtf

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Reply #317 on: January 25, 2017, 10:13:38 PM

One of the Red Letter Media casts, taking a shit on Rogue One.
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Reply #318 on: January 26, 2017, 04:30:15 AM

Because they don't like good films, or because they like clicks ?

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Reply #319 on: January 26, 2017, 09:41:22 AM

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Reply #320 on: January 30, 2017, 07:08:14 PM

Saw this last Saturday, loved it. My only complaint was the lack of scrolling yellow text at the beginning. #2, behind Empire.

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Reply #321 on: January 31, 2017, 02:23:26 PM

Yeah, that bummed me a bit.

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Reply #322 on: April 17, 2017, 12:36:57 PM

Took me a while to eventually see this on dvd, I was expecting it be better, wasn't bad. More good than bad, Force awakens allowed you care more for the characters, I'm not sure why I felt so removed from the main characters. Speaking of which Forest Whitaker was a let down of Ewan McGregor proportions, Sol Guerrero was probably the most annoying character since Binks. On the plus side, everything else was amazing.

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Reply #323 on: April 17, 2017, 01:15:35 PM

They jumped into action too quickly and didn't let you grow to care about the characters before they were put in jeopardy.  That is why we don't care about them and it feels a bit flat.  On a second viewing you care a bit more about the characters because you spent the first viewing with them.  They'd have been wise to have spent a few more moments with the characters to make them endearing - an exchange between Jyn Erso and a fellow prisoner that gave us insight into who she had become before we see the 'jail break' could have done a lot to draw us into the film.  As long as we connect to Jyn, the film works.

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Reply #324 on: April 17, 2017, 04:30:46 PM

Now its on dvd, glad to have seen it again and had my view that it is a good film confirmed.

TFA really didn't stand multiple viewings (except on Jakku), but this does. Thoughts after a couple more viewings...

Tarkin is less of a big deal when you are no longer watching every tick to the exclusion of everything else in frame. It is basically fine - we're all just hypersensitive about this shit because of George fucking Lucas.

The Darth Vader / Krennic scene really does not need to be in this film. And Darth Vader should never be doing bad puns.

The proportion of K2SO's dialog that is a punchline is just a little too high. It gets to the point where the fact he is speaking telegraphs that this will be a joke.

The balance of reusing ideas/styles/equipment/jokes from previous films works well in the core story. But there are too many obvious easter egg script inserts. The guys from the Mos Eisley cantina really did not need to be in this.

The ending is satisfying in a way that no star wars film has been since the first one.

I love how little they feel the need to explain shit in this film.

Seeing the death star from the PoV of the people about to get blown up is properly scary and a great use of us never having seen that before.

The whole film feels like they had more confidence in what they were doing than tFA did.

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Reply #325 on: April 17, 2017, 06:02:41 PM

They jumped into action too quickly and didn't let you grow to care about the characters before they were put in jeopardy.

Yep agreed, I would have liked to seen how Jyn developed under Guerrero (except having to be subjected to more of Whitakers' over-acting). But that was definitely I think the root of the problem not getting enough back story, or any injected story lines.

Agreed on the Darth Vader pun, it definitely jarred. Somebody else was reading the Jeffrey Brown illustrations to their kids.

The ending was great with Vader ripping through everyone but then slightly messed up by cgi Leia, more bride of Frankenstein. Really should have obscured her and I think we would have got the idea. They were at times using a sledgehammer to crack the nut.
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Reply #326 on: April 18, 2017, 03:14:41 AM

I thought cgi Leia was fine. The thing that jarred in that scene was that it had none of the urgency and tension that the previous shots were full of. Was clearly put together by a different team. The flat 'serious people lined up' construction was reminiscent of the terrible closing shots from aNH, RotJ and tPM.

Also, I didn't need more origin story, but would have appreciated more time on the blue rainy planet for Jan Ors to grow more and demonstrate her competence in leading the team. I didn't buy the way the hardbitten rebel saboteurs all join her suicide mission without her having demonstrated any ability to lead it. The emotional development is fine - it just needs a little agency to go along with it.
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Reply #327 on: April 18, 2017, 03:20:07 AM

Oh I just remembered my second least favourite 'stop the film for an easter egg insert' moment...

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Reply #328 on: April 18, 2017, 03:41:49 AM

Blah blah blah blah Jan Ors blah blah


Heh.  Jyn Erso, I think you mean, though there is a resemblance. 

I agree with your point, though.  I think she was quite unmemorable in general, and I had to suspend my disbelief (which I am good at) in order to buy into the fact that these guys would go along with her at all.  To me, this whole movie was audio/visual spectacle, and I am fine with that.

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Reply #329 on: April 18, 2017, 03:45:56 AM

All it needed was the team to achieve something on that platform and for Jan to bark a few orders into a comlink to make it happen.

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Reply #330 on: May 20, 2017, 04:10:53 PM

Finally seen it and found it underwhelming.

The fan-service space-battle sections where the only remarkable moment, the entire middle part felt like a long bore.

Similar with the characters, Krennic with his burning ambition showed more personality than Jynn.

Edit: The Vader scene was nice, frankly. No fine sword play but him hacking and slashing through rebel soldiers meat. Showed why he is Vader and feared.
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Reply #331 on: July 23, 2017, 05:18:51 PM

This popped up on Netflix.

Watched it this morning, thought it was decent. Can't say how I would rate it against the other movies because I really don't care enough about Star Wars anymore to think that hard about it.




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Reply #332 on: July 23, 2017, 08:51:36 PM

I've already watched it twice on Netflix. It's a fucking awesome movie, tied for my favorite with Empire and ANH, I decided they're all amazing in their own ways. I want to see TFA a couple more times to see how I feel about it, seeing it in the theater on release weekend was too biasing.

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Reply #333 on: July 23, 2017, 09:59:27 PM

I am biased. I love this movie and ignore its weaknesses. The same for TFA. What people bitch about most, I enjoy.

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Reply #334 on: July 24, 2017, 06:37:17 AM

I'm travelling this week. Will watch again.
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Reply #335 on: July 24, 2017, 07:05:38 AM

It's a fucking awesome movie, tied for my favorite with Empire and ANH.

But that is completely false! Sometimes I wish it was possible to stop people from having wrong opinions... *sigh*

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Reply #336 on: July 25, 2017, 11:27:14 AM

But, if that happened, everyone would wind up agreeing with me...  why so serious?

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Reply #337 on: April 30, 2018, 08:57:46 AM

I just watched this a second time (first at the movies, now on Netflix).

I FUCKING LOVED IT. There should be no debate about the greatness of Rogue One. If you don't like it, watch it again on Netflix until you do.

It's way better and far more Star Warsy than the mess that is the emo Kylo new Death Star deeply unsatisfying "main" new trilogy.
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Reply #338 on: April 30, 2018, 01:34:47 PM

I just watched this a second time (first at the movies, now on Netflix).

I FUCKING LOVED IT. There should be no debate about the greatness of Rogue One. If you don't like it, watch it again on Netflix until you do.

It's way better and far more Star Warsy than the mess that is the emo Kylo new Death Star deeply unsatisfying "main" new trilogy.

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Reply #339 on: May 01, 2018, 10:41:15 AM

My argument in the Last Jedi thread basically boiled down to 'SEE THIS MOVIE!?!?!?!'


I've watched this movie multiple times now, and I almost NEVER re-watch movies.  It is awesome and probably the best Star Wars movie ever put to film.

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Reply #340 on: May 01, 2018, 01:47:46 PM

When I thought Disney was going to pump out Star Wars movies I was hoping they will look something more like this. Unfortunately whatever talent that went into making this wasn't shared with the rest of the studio.

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Reply #341 on: May 01, 2018, 04:58:45 PM

Let's keep mind this movie had to be extensively reshot before it wasn't crap.

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Reply #342 on: May 01, 2018, 05:40:52 PM

I love how little they feel the need to explain shit in this film.

This is also cute considering TLJ thread.

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Reply #343 on: May 02, 2018, 12:24:07 AM

Let's keep mind this movie had to be extensively reshot before it wasn't crap.

Depends whether you think having the editor of Suicide Squad "reconceptualize" Rogue One really improved it or not :)

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Reply #344 on: May 02, 2018, 02:21:01 AM

Let's keep mind this movie had to be extensively reshot before it wasn't crap.

At this point I get the impression this is something people say about every blockbuster ever.

But even if the whole film was rewritten and reshot, I don't care, it worked.

I liked tLJ but this is better.

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Reply #345 on: May 02, 2018, 06:20:30 AM

Let's keep mind this movie had to be extensively reshot before it wasn't crap.

At this point I get the impression this is something people say about every blockbuster ever.

But even if the whole film was rewritten and reshot, I don't care, it worked.

I liked tLJ but this is better.

Why the fuck does it matter that they did reshoots? Did they make you see the original edit first? No, so um who gives a flying fuck?

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Reply #346 on: May 03, 2018, 11:04:49 AM

A reshoot is just a very late rewrite, and every script is rewritten a gazillion times before it is made.

Except crap.

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Reply #347 on: May 03, 2018, 03:16:44 PM

I feel it was in some ways better prior to the changes (more rebellion/freedom fighters themed than hopeful).

But the reshoots also got us the single best scene in the entire franchise, so I'm coo wit dat.

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Reply #348 on: May 03, 2018, 05:26:31 PM


But the reshoots also got us the single best scene in the entire franchise, so I'm coo wit dat.

Which was? Vader i assume?

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Reply #349 on: May 04, 2018, 03:20:58 AM

Rogue One is not Prequels level pants-on-the-head and has some good scenes but overall it's not a great film.

I am glad we can agree on this.

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