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HaemishM
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Well, Wilson has never had great wide outs around him, and he's always had a running game. Baldwin is out this weekend I think, and his O line stinks, and without Lynch, their running game doesn't seem to be doing shit either. So I'm guessing this is the year we see the Hawks miss the playoffs. The only problem with that scenario is they might still get a wild card because of how much everyone else in the NFC stinks on ice. Carolina may be the best team in the conference and I'm not entirely sure they are all that good. The same kind of feeling goes for Arizona.
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Rasix
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Jesus will intervene at some point.
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TheWalrus
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Yeah, but what will he do?
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HaemishM
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Probably give him a case of the magic water.
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Probably give him a case of the magic water.
Holy water... gotta be. 
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Paelos
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Well, Wilson has never had great wide outs around him, and he's always had a running game. Baldwin is out this weekend I think, and his O line stinks, and without Lynch, their running game doesn't seem to be doing shit either. So I'm guessing this is the year we see the Hawks miss the playoffs. The only problem with that scenario is they might still get a wild card because of how much everyone else in the NFC stinks on ice. Carolina may be the best team in the conference and I'm not entirely sure they are all that good. The same kind of feeling goes for Arizona.
My friend and I did an exercise recently where we named teams we thought were great in the NFL. I named 3 teams, all of them AFC. My friend came up with 2 teams, both of them AFC. Nobody in the NFC is impressive as constructed. I don't see anybody right now in the entire conference winning a Super Bowl playing like they are. Who is the best QB in that side? Matt Ryan? Sam Bradford? Both are tops in the QB rating right now. I doubt they will be later but Aaron Rodgers has been in decline since he started dating that actress, Cam has been garbage throwing the ball early on and taking massive hits, Drew Brees is doing great on a team that has no real talent, while Eli and Stafford are sort of doing their dopey act early where they put up decent stats but the teams look bad doing it.
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HaemishM
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I wouldn't blame Rodgers' declining performances on banging Olivia Munn so much as his coaches throwing shit, predictable plays and routes into the mix over and over and expecting him to just figure it out. Also, surrounding him with whatever undrafted hobo they can find when they don't want to pay for a free agent.
But yeah, nobody in the NFC is covering themselves in glory right now. Who were the great teams in the AFC besides New England? Pittsburgh? Denver? Because I'm struggling to think of one.
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Paelos
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I wouldn't blame Rodgers' declining performances on banging Olivia Munn so much as his coaches throwing shit, predictable plays and routes into the mix over and over and expecting him to just figure it out. Also, surrounding him with whatever undrafted hobo they can find when they don't want to pay for a free agent.
But yeah, nobody in the NFC is covering themselves in glory right now. Who were the great teams in the AFC besides New England? Pittsburgh? Denver? Because I'm struggling to think of one.
Didn't they let go one of their best O line guys because $$$? How's that going Green Bay? I see Rodgers running around a lot. You named my 3, Pittsburgh, Denver, and NE. All look legitimately strong with good depth. Denver doesn't even need a decent QB to win, they proved it last year. NE is plug and play QB without Brady apparently and then they get him back in 2 weeks. Pittsburgh looks the best in my mind. Deangelo Williams has come out of the gate hot.
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Browns News. (1st rd pick WR breaks hand.) We've long known that the football Gods have a macabre sense of humor when it comes to the Cleveland Browns, but this season might have gone over the edge.
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01101010
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Browns News. (1st rd pick WR breaks hand.) We've long known that the football Gods have a macabre sense of humor when it comes to the Cleveland Browns, but this season might have gone over the edge.
 LSU loses the opener because Les Miles thinks not having a QB is an ok thing. Then the Browns get their shit pushed in by a QB they could have had and lose the QB they decided to go with instead. Then lose the veteran backup the second week along with their center not to mention the game. Now we lose the only promising rookie and are starting the rookie QB from USC. At least we signed clipboard jesus though... and let's not mention the slew of injuries to the Indians in recent weeks that pretty much have doomed their post-season. What a time to be alive! edit: add in the crying in baseball.
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I just traded Coleman in another league. HA! I only got Derrick Henry, though.
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Thanks for coming Houston.
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Malakili
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What a game. 
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HaemishM
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Glad I chose not to watch that shit show.
So another New England Super Bowl then? I mean, if they can't even fucking lose when Brady's out, I'm not seeing another team that will beat them when he is in.
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Bungee
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The god damn 3rd string 7th round rookie QB on 3 days of preparation. I mean honestly, can anybody still seriously argue that Brady actually has anything to do with how good this team is? BB's a fucking genius and it really shows how much up their asses the entire rest of the league is.
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Rasix
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Houston made tripping over their own dicks an art form in this game. Brock Rottweiler is fucking terrible as well.
I don't know. Brady might have hung 50+ on these guys.
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Malakili
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I mean honestly, can anybody still seriously argue that Brady actually has anything to do with how good this team is?
Yes.
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Shannow
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I mean honestly, can anybody still seriously argue that Brady actually has anything to do with how good this team is?
Yes. +1, just to show how fucking nuts some fans are this is a topic on sports radio this morning. Would Brady have been as good without Belichek? No. Would Belichek been as good without Brady? No. Houston THREW up on their own cleats, horrible fucking play calling, special teams, defense etc etc etc. The Texans are still not a real football team and may never be. The Pittsburgh vs NE game is where it's at. If Solder, Brady, Gronk, Butler and Collins stay healthy then they probably win the whole thing. Solder basically ate JJ Watt last night. I could obnoxiously argue that if he'd been on the field last year they beat Denver.
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Bungee
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I don't know. Brady might have hung 50+ on these guys.
Yes, I agree. And Garoppolo would've hung 40 on them. That's not my point. My point is that Brady is good, not great. He's also been in this system for 15 years now and was/is smart enough to keep himself in shape and completely buy into anything and everything BB tells him. He wouldn't be considered great anywhere else. Belichick just gives +10 skill to any player he coaches.
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HaemishM
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You are seriously high. Belicheck has contributed to Brady's greatness, certainly. There is, however, no evidence to suggest Brady would have been shit on another team. For most of his careers, he's been throwing to no-names and castoffs.
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Malakili
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Yes, I agree. And Garoppolo would've hung 40 on them. That's not my point. My point is that Brady is good, not great. He's also been in this system for 15 years now and was/is smart enough to keep himself in shape and completely buy into anything and everything BB tells him. He wouldn't be considered great anywhere else. Belichick just gives +10 skill to any player he coaches.
Why does it have to be one or the other? You have a confluence of a great QB with a great coach, with a dash of owner who let's people who know what they are doing run the team. That's the recipe for the kind of run the Patriots have had. The fact that multiple parts of the organization are great doesn't diminish the greatness of the other parts. You're coming across as a crank who just wants to justify hating on Brady.
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Sky
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That was pretty embarrassing for Houston. I mean, at one point it didn't look like they'd ever break the 50yd line  Glad to see the adjustments got Blount back into it in the second half. Love the coaching on that team, and the ability for guys with some talent to jump in and succeed. The fiancee is now a NE fan; she 'reminded' me the game was on, wouldn't leave until they were up by 20, and was checking the writeup of the game this morning at work.
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01101010
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Yes, I agree. And Garoppolo would've hung 40 on them. That's not my point. My point is that Brady is good, not great. He's also been in this system for 15 years now and was/is smart enough to keep himself in shape and completely buy into anything and everything BB tells him. He wouldn't be considered great anywhere else. Belichick just gives +10 skill to any player he coaches.
Why does it have to be one or the other? You have a confluence of a great QB with a great coach, with a dash of owner who let's people who know what they are doing run the team. That's the recipe for the kind of run the Patriots have had. The fact that multiple parts of the organization are great doesn't diminish the greatness of the other parts. You're coming across as a crank who just wants to justify hating on Brady. Or that Belichick has a knack for winning plugging in any old player or cast off or problem player and winning. Hell, 2008 they went 11-5 with Cassel at QB. Brady might be a great QB, but I'd put more stock in Belichick being the bigger influence.
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All you can argue in that case is hypotheticals. Brady's actual achievements and records would be more than enough to make 3-4 "great" QBs by pretty much any other standard.
I've watched him pull off enough amazing game-winning drives in the last 2-3 minutes of crunch games to be entirely content with the idea that he's one of the most clutch players ever to play the game.
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Goumindong
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What is this shit? By all metrics, Brady is the best quarterback to ever play the game.
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Rasix
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Fitz is a human turnover machine.
That's what he says, too. I just feel he does it in a coachable way and is worth the investment for a franchise back. Wish he'd landed in New England to study with Brady, honestly. Hard to coach away the gem he produced today.
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He crapped everybody's pants today. Jesus.
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HaemishM
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Fitz is a human turnover machine.
That's what he says, too. I just feel he does it in a coachable way and is worth the investment for a franchise back. Wish he'd landed in New England to study with Brady, honestly. Hard to coach away the gem he produced today. Just looked at the box score. HOLY. SHIT.
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At least you weren't watching the fucking game.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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I would appreciate it if he could duplicate it again this week and then he is free to go on a tear and run New England down.
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Sky
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Well, ok then.
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Malakili
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Eli Manning responds to a question about whether the Vikings have his number: 
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HaemishM
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Eli will always look and sound like a kid who is standing their holding an empty ice cream cone.
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Man, Buffalo shutting out the Pats at NE is a big shocker. In other not so shocking news, the Browns remain the very definition of SNAFU and are now 0-4. 
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Sky
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As usual, some real shitty playcalling. But even so, the Pats defense just decided to not show up. The questions from my fiancee were hilarious 'Why does the QB keep getting beat up so badly?' 'Why do they keep missing all those tackles?' She's been spoiled. And I'm a bit pissed they didn't kick the FG to lose the goose egg at the end. Stupid, there was no way that offense was going to get 6 at that point. But for reals, I hope the ref crew gets fined for that 'we weren't in position' whistle, which cost the Pats a critical 1st down in scoring range. I don't think I've ever seen that before. Happy for my Bills fan buddy, he's got something to bust my chops with, finally. High point for me was Belichick chucking the Surface 
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