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If anything it's sad that they're recycling the same song. They should've used Intergalactic...
Edit: Evildrider beat me to it.
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Samwise
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Yeah, it was kinda stupid in the first one too, but I appreciate that they're really going front and center with it this time.
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lamaros
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Eh, I don't get why you guys are complaining about this one and all in love with the other generic comic stuff that gets churned out these days? They're all disposable pain-by-numbers.
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Margalis
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Eh, I don't get why you guys are complaining about this one and all in love with the other generic comic stuff that gets churned out these days? They're all disposable pain-by-numbers.
The generic comic movies are based on generic comic storylines. Star Trek has not historically been generic tripe. |
vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Tannhauser
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The line "the frontier pushes back" implies that the crew have finally gone out to the 'final frontier' so that's good. Losing the ship in the third movie is not so good. The ship is a character to me. If it's the original Enterprise/Kirk vs. the Doomsday Machine or Enterprise D/Picard vs. the Borg cube or even Enterprise ?/nUKirk vs. Nero, the ship was shown to be the best we could build. A testament to Federation science and ingenuity. There was always drama when Kirk or Scotty was begging the ship to hold together. And it did.
At any rate, the trailer was about what I expected from the new movies. The new series can address the more non-explodey issues Trek is known for.
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Star Trek has not historically been generic tripe.
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2020 will be the year I gave up all hope.
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Venkman
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THANK YOU! I said that above (Sabotage/Young Kirk), but don't think anyone confirmed it, and didn't care enough to look it up myself.
I meant one or two of the movies have been ok, not the first and second one.
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New trailer, definitely better despite a bit too much Bwaaaaap!. Pine is getting some good Shatner affect without doing an impression. https://youtu.be/HzWIGFiGrlA |
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HaemishM
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Still no fucking idea what's going on in this movie.
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dd0029
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Still no fucking idea what's going on in this movie.
That's a good thing trailer wise isn't it? Anyway, why do they keep blowing up the Enterprise? Might as well just call the damn thing the USS Kenny at this point. |
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Hutch
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Killing the Enterprise creates a sense of loss, without killing off a beloved crewmate.
Plus, the Enterprise can be rezzed for the next movie, and no one will blink when it takes place off-screen.
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HaemishM
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I'm actually getting really fucking tired of the Enterprise getting blown up in every movie. It's been done so much, it completely robs the whole thing of any emotional impact because we know it'll be back.
As for the trailer keeping me from knowing what's going on in the movie, I don't want it to spoil the whole thing (such as the Enterprise getting shitcanned again) but I'd at least like to have some idea of the story besides BOOM POW KRASH CHAKA CHAKA!
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Evildrider
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It wouldn't be soo bad if they hadn't already done it in the last 2 movies. Fucking hell.
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Hutch
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HaemishM
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No, you absolutely cannot blame the Enterprise destruction on JJ Abrams. That shit's been going on since forever. They destroyed it at the end of Search for Spock, didn't have it in IV and then it got blown up again in Generations and of course the ass-kicking it took in nuTrek 1 and Into Darkness. It's just been done. OVER AND OVER. It lacks all emotional impact.
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Venkman
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Nah.
For one, the Enterprise has only actually been destroyed twice (III and Generations). It's been beat to hell in II, VI, Redemption, and of course JJ1 and 2. But not actually destroyed.
Also, we don't know if it will be here or if the magical tooth fairy time travel will make it right.
But I do agree with the lack of emotional resonance npw. It's being treated as a plot device, not the Kobayashi Maru-like scenario Kirk had in III (where he changed the rules). Nothing we see now can replace the emotional build up to self destruction in III.
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Nothing can replace it because it wasn't earned. The destruction in III had the history of three movies, a TV and animated series and 20 years time behind it. After evading destruction so long, it was gone. You didn't know if more movies were coming and it seemed like a goodbye to the series.
Even Generations had some decent weight behind it with the series. It felt a bit token because we'd seen it happen in III and TNG wasn't quite the touchstone TOS was at the time. It still hurt a bit, but you knew more movies were on the way. This was only the first of the new set, so while sad, Meh there's going to be another ship.
The JJ movies have tried to stand on the shoulders of the previous series and largely failed. Everything has happened in 90 minutes or less. We have three episodes of familiarity with the crew. The destruction here doesn't have the weight of anything behind it. It's just a special effect and one we expected by now, since it was nearly blown to hell two times already.
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Evildrider
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It's like halfway through writing the script they decide the new ship already sucks and they should write it getting blown up so they can get a newer new ship.
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I just like that they've recycled the Narn for their tossaway evil aliens this movie. I'm puzzled how an albino Night Elf got there though.
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Khaldun
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Elba's character really does look like an armored Narn. It's a lazy design on several levels. Also a waste of Idris Elba, frankly. At some point if a Star Trek bad guy isn't just "humans with a bump on their upper nose", I almost wish they go full CGI and give us a genuinely alien-looking alien for once. Elba's voice is worth paying for if they want the name.
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HaemishM
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That was Idris Elba?
Yeah, talk about a waste.
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Khaldun
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Man, even the studio must think this sucks. Less than a month before release and very little effort to drum up interest.
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Merusk
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I dunno. Generally when I see a lot of hype more than a few weeks before release I expect the movie to suck.
The Kevin Spacey/ Jennifer Garner human-as-a-cat movie, for example. Two months out with lots of TV ads, obvious shitshow of a movie. Ghostbusters: hype everywhere, TV ads since May, probably not that great. Avengers? I don't recall an ad before 2-3 weeks out.
When it's a "Big" movie, people just generally know. There's been trailers before every tangentially-related movie for the last several months, too.
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Khaldun
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It's the same trailer, only with Rihanna. Which feels desperate and unfocused at the same time.
Motorcycle jumping! Rihanna! This will get them to come to this movie, or...I dunno. Maybe. Star Trek? Do we own that, really? Gosh. I dunno. Do you think Marvel would be interested in buying it?
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Sir T
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Both Marvel and DC have published Star Trek comics, so there is rights to go round.
Incidentaly, Enterprise is the only Trek series that has not been made into a comic.
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Furiously
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WTF is the NX enterprise doing in this trailer? Is Scott Bakula gonna show up?
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Sir T
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Time travel yo!
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Probably not time travel. The Star Trek universe is the same until the Narada shows up. Stands to reason the NX is still out there somewhere.
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luckton
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Apparently it is an NX akin to the Enterprise 01, but it's an even earlier prototype dubbed the USS Franklin. It can only go to warp 4.
But yes, in this alternative Trek timeline, Bakula very well could rear his head up as some old man/admiral. Not that anyone would want that?
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Merusk
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Let's not forget Scotty killed Bakulas beagle which is why he was in frozen hell planet.
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Khaldun
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I thought the beagle was just lost. Considering that they're beaming across the galaxy by movie 2, there's a lot of planets for that kind of transporter to dump a beagle on.
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Evildrider
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I thought the beagle was just lost. Considering that they're beaming across the galaxy by movie 2, there's a lot of planets for that kind of transporter to dump a beagle on.
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Merusk
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Yeah, that was the implication of the movie line. Or at least how I figured it. Dog "lost" in transporter accident, what else is it going to be? I assumed some sort of de-patterned flub or never materialized, implying death. However, apparently in one of the comic book follow-ups they rescued the beagle. |
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